First impressions......

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The only reason I’m doing any single player stuff is to be able to play online with the cars I’ll need. I find it quite dull honestly. I feel like when you start the game it should have a clear delineation and you choose ‘sport mode’ or ‘collecting mode’. The mish mash og the two doesn’t work. Especially the tuning for online using single player credits.
Yes, at the minimum you have to buy the tires for each car to be able to use them online. It's an extra step which is just in the way. I guess races with multiple compounds, you'll have to buy each compound for each car.

The couple race I did it was clear who 'tuned' and who didn't. High speed ring is not a taxing track at all in the slow cars for this week's race yet you could see the difference in action. 3 cars to choose from, yet some much faster than others. It was not a race of skill, only who had the fastest car. 40+ kph difference in top speed on the straights kind of stuff. I didn't make a single mistake, smooth through every corner, drafted other cars as much as possible and over a minute behind by the end of the short race. They simply flew by on the straights, not even bothering to use my slipstream.

The cars come quite fast in single player mode, but the credits don't. I was saving up for a GR.3 car (450K) and still only have 360K while I started with 100K. Clean race bonus all the way (not sure how you can lose that bonus, way too easy, but payouts are crap).

Someone will find a cash cow race to grind, but I hoped you would earn enough to play online from the campaign. A full GR.1 to GR.4 garage, the basic tool set, seems far far away. I have just about enough to buy one GR.4 car lol. I still have the anniversary edition codes, I can use those to buy one car with upgrades lol.

Also what's the incentive to raise the difficulty? The payouts are the same, AI seems to behave the same, just drives faster. So basically you have to spend more money on tunes to achieve the same payout. Might as well use a stock lower PP car on lower 'difficulty' to get the tougher competition as using a tuned car on hard 'difficulty'.
 
Anyone done any races with damage on? Is it the same as GTS (pointless) or have they done something with it?
It seems there is damage in the Deep Forest Daily race. I didn't notice it while racing, yet when I looked at a screenshot I took, my rear bumper and right rear wheel were red on the status display. My car must have been damaged one of the times I got rear ended. So my guess is, pointless.
 
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Yes, at the minimum you have to buy the tires for each car to be able to use them online. It's an extra step which is just in the way. I guess races with multiple compounds, you'll have to buy each compound for each car.

The couple race I did it was clear who 'tuned' and who didn't. High speed ring is not a taxing track at all in the slow cars for this week's race yet you could see the difference in action. 3 cars to choose from, yet some much faster than others. It was not a race of skill, only who had the fastest car. 40+ kph difference in top speed on the straights kind of stuff. I didn't make a single mistake, smooth through every corner, drafted other cars as much as possible and over a minute behind by the end of the short race. They simply flew by on the straights, not even bothering to use my slipstream.

The cars come quite fast in single player mode, but the credits don't. I was saving up for a GR.3 car (450K) and still only have 360K while I started with 100K. Clean race bonus all the way (not sure how you can lose that bonus, way too easy, but payouts are crap).

Someone will find a cash cow race to grind, but I hoped you would earn enough to play online from the campaign. A full GR.1 to GR.4 garage, the basic tool set, seems far far away. I have just about enough to buy one GR.4 car lol. I still have the anniversary edition codes, I can use those to buy one car with upgrades lol.

Also what's the incentive to raise the difficulty? The payouts are the same, AI seems to behave the same, just drives faster. So basically you have to spend more money on tunes to achieve the same payout. Might as well use a stock lower PP car on lower 'difficulty' to get the tougher competition as using a tuned car on hard 'difficulty'.
I’ve been playing the whole time with ai hard and often not finishing 1st. Either due to not upgrading to save credits or driving around so slowly to avoid spinning out randomly. I’ve been a bit daft here as I need to maximise my credit wins. How much is one gr3 car going to cost to race online. Presumably you’ll have to buy every single upgrade item. So maybe a million credits? For one car for one event. If that car doesn’t net you enough money from playing online then the next daily race will need a different car and another million credits thus hours upon hours of single player grinding. In sport the only thing I did single player was driving school and a few missions. I didn’t race the AI once. And I was always able to buy 3 or 4 cars to race for each daily.
 
Been playing since yesterday. The racing side of things is spot on. Cant complain at all really but one thing that does get on my nerves is there is never enough options in any GT game. Im racing with a logitech G27 and there are no dead zone settings etc and i can only remove the map if i remove the digital speedo etc so ive either got to put up with the map on screen and be able to see the weather report/other settings i can toggle with my wheel on the fly or remove it and lose access to the latter. Why no individual tool removal?
 
Agree 100% I really don't care about the AI made up driver names. Just tell me my placement. Surely the option to remove some HUD can't be too hard. The stupid driver list covers up my rearview mirror which I need..
You can remove it like in Sport!

It is under the options while in a race. You can toggle to minimal (lap/pos#/map) or off. There is also other options for driver info and POV settings. Took awhile for me to find it!!
 
You can remove it like in Sport!

It is under the options while in a race. You can toggle to minimal (lap/pos#/map) or off. There is also other options for driver info and POV settings. Took awhile for me to find it!!
Can you change the POV for bumper cam? I only saw options for in car view. Bumper cam FOV is very weird, the tracks all look stretched and too wide. I hardly recognized the Nordschleife doh.

Perhaps I can tweak the in car view, move the camera to the front of the car lol. I just want GT Sports bumper cam view back :/
 
There’s no reason they couldn’t have done both. Would have been trivially easy.
We clearly have two camps, those looking for the GTS experience of basically online racing with a real focus on racing not tuning or set up changes. Then there's the "i want the old GT back" crowd who want to start in a corolla, grind for a year to add turbos and dampers or whatever. This camp seems to be larger in numbers which leaves those of us looking for good online racing, without the absolute dedication required from ACC or IRacing, completely out in the cold.

From what i have read, i hate every aspect of GT7, there's literally nothing i like. To 1997 style progression, the economics, the cynical push to microtransactions, the tuning in sport, the set up changes in sport...... i want none of it. This is fine ofcourse, maybe i just don't play but I literally have nowhere to go, there's no game out there that satisfies this market in anyway.
 
We clearly have two camps, those looking for the GTS experience of basically online racing with a real focus on racing not tuning or set up changes. Then there's the "i want the old GT back" crowd who want to start in a corolla, grind for a year to add turbos and dampers or whatever. This camp seems to be larger in numbers which leaves those of us looking for good online racing, without the absolute dedication required from ACC or IRacing, completely out in the cold.

From what i have read, i hate every aspect of GT7, there's literally nothing i like. To 1997 style progression, the economics, the cynical push to microtransactions, the tuning in sport, the set up changes in sport...... i want none of it. This is fine ofcourse, maybe i just don't play but I literally have nowhere to go, there's no game out there that satisfies this market in anyway.
At the moment this Daily races are a no go ether you need to find a way to tune that Aqua S into something that it is not. Or detune a GT3 RS for Daily race B and make it something that it is not. However give it time and I'm sure the Daily Races will be back to normal Gr. 3 / Gr. 4 racing with the 3rd one been some PP racing style. Also I hope we get time trials back this will be fun (in case it's there please let me know where) with the PP tuning I remember back in GT5 we were doing some TT with a Viper GTS in Tokyo and was so much fun to tune every little thing to make that car faster. I strongly suggest if you didn't do the GT7 career to do it. I play GT since the original 25 years ago and I can say that some shots and races are so nostalgic (that Viper GTS chasing you at the final of the Trial Mountain Race just before the chicane) that I can pinpoint the exact game race (GT2) that it come from this give me little tears. I can imagine how for someone not spend the last 25 years obsessing over GT and just wanting to play online this could be a little annoying but it's clear that a lot of though was put into this races. And for someone like me this game is everything I wanted as a little kid. I might not be that kid anymore but believe me this kid is so grateful that it can enjoy GT7 the way it is presented. So far I love it. In fact I even thing the single content will not be enough but let's see.
 
We clearly have two camps, those looking for the GTS experience of basically online racing with a real focus on racing not tuning or set up changes. Then there's the "i want the old GT back" crowd who want to start in a corolla, grind for a year to add turbos and dampers or whatever. This camp seems to be larger in numbers which leaves those of us looking for good online racing, without the absolute dedication required from ACC or IRacing, completely out in the cold.

From what i have read, i hate every aspect of GT7, there's literally nothing i like. To 1997 style progression, the economics, the cynical push to microtransactions, the tuning in sport, the set up changes in sport...... i want none of it. This is fine ofcourse, maybe i just don't play but I literally have nowhere to go, there's no game out there that satisfies this market in anyway.
There are definitely two schools of thought. BUT....this IS Gran Turismo. There's a reason Sport wasn't numbered. I can pretty safely say that the vast majority of players prefer this to Sport. The problem with forums like these is that they're much more heavily skewed to a more hardcore experience, when in reality that is a small percentage of players. So we get a warped view as to what people want.

For me, this game is everything sport wasn't, and its beautiful
 
kids now days just want youtube and easy online. Don't like grind everything served by mum and dad so why bother.
This is quite rude. I work hard for every penny I have and have been given nothing from my parents other than an honest upbringing and good manners. Those of us that have a desire for the sport style races have been very acknowledging of how gt7 serves it market and we understand that the game may not be for us.
 
This is quite rude. I work hard for every penny I have and have been given nothing from my parents other than an honest upbringing and good manners. Those of us that have a desire for the sport style races have been very acknowledging of how gt7 serves it market and we understand that the game may not be for us.
I might not agree with you about the physics, but I feel you have a valid point… and i told you this a a true GT game, but coming from sport I can see a lot of the sport players just wanting to compete online.
 
I am blown away with this game, it's amazing. 10 hours in

One little feature I noticed that is really cool, each car you buy has mileage as you know, but I saved a multiplayer replay and viewed some other cars, and each had their own genuine mileage! What a cool little feature. On new bought cars where mileage is of course 0, you can tell how much that player has used that car.
 
Can you change the POV for bumper cam? I only saw options for in car view. Bumper cam FOV is very weird, the tracks all look stretched and too wide. I hardly recognized the Nordschleife doh.

Perhaps I can tweak the in car view, move the camera to the front of the car lol. I just want GT Sports bumper cam view back :/
No bumper cam ..are you serious?

Another delusional GT .... So my decision to postpone buying the game is right ..

IR
 
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I got the 3 cars so my licence tests unlocked thanks to help from here, I Thank You 👍
Now I am on Easy and doing the B-Licence I got as far as B-8 Cornering and got Bronze on that but now on B-9 I sadly cannot get any where near after over an hour of trying, I think my days of GT have come to an end, age has caught up with me and my reactions are just to slow. I cannot keep the car on the track and when I slow down so I can my time is a couple of seconds away from Bronze.
Lets be honest here I love the game but if I am struggling on B Licence on easy there is no chance I am going to be able to get very far at all.
The game GT7 is brilliant lovely graphics brilliant game play and I am sure it will bring hours of joy to the masses Good luck to you all.
My son is 8 so time I hand over the console and game and retire gracefully.

Over and Out
Enjoy yourselves now.
 
The underlying concern is that even if you do grind you can be out-ground by someone else who then has 50 more hp to play with. If we get to at least two daily races with BOP enabled I'm fine, I have no issue working through the asinine part of the game if i have to in order to get here, but I don't think we will and it'll just be a never ending arms race.

The comment on "kids these days" is interesting, I am very middle aged and view this desire to graduate and be rewarded so you can move onto the next graduation is targeting more at teenagers than adults, its borderline infantile.

Yes there's ACC or I racing but that swings too hard the other way, you need to be seriously dedicated to compete. With GTS, one could boot up, play in a tight room, have superb racing that still needed skill to succeed and when it was done you could do it all again 10 minutes later. Just a magnificent concept for the time poor who love a good race. That market has now been abandoned.
 
I got the 3 cars so my licence tests unlocked thanks to help from here, I Thank You 👍
Now I am on Easy and doing the B-Licence I got as far as B-8 Cornering and got Bronze on that but now on B-9 I sadly cannot get any where near after over an hour of trying, I think my days of GT have come to an end, age has caught up with me and my reactions are just to slow. I cannot keep the car on the track and when I slow down so I can my time is a couple of seconds away from Bronze.
Lets be honest here I love the game but if I am struggling on B Licence on easy there is no chance I am going to be able to get very far at all.
The game GT7 is brilliant lovely graphics brilliant game play and I am sure it will bring hours of joy to the masses Good luck to you all.
My son is 8 so time I hand over the console and game and retire gracefully.

Over and Out
Enjoy yourselves now.
I honestly wouldn’t give up that fast my friend at least for the game being difficult… for time with your family that’s a different story and I respect that! The thing is in my opinion with time and practice you will get better and if you think your struggling trust me we are all lol! I am a A/S driver and had to use TCS in my first time on a road car ever in GT because I kept spinning out. I have not even finished the Gr.3 cup challenge because I either crash before the 5 laps are up or I’m taking 5/4th. I’m cool with that and what makes GT games so great is the growth of your skills over time! Hope you still give it a chance my friend have a great day!!!
 
I am about 4 hours in. So far I am blown away by it and can’t wait to play some more tonight. Am I correct that you can’t sell cars ? Just the same as GT Sport they have to be deleted if you have duplicates you don’t want.
 
About 10 hours in. I am enjoying the game just fine but i am a little bit worried about the in-game economy and endgame.

The Good:

I adore the GT Cafe and hope they expand it beyond the initial 39 offerings (already 1/4 through them!).

Quick load times and system menus are a breath of fresh air.

Enjoying the music so far!

The Bad:

The RNG tickets are absolute dogshi* and need to be adjusted in some way.

Car prices are a bit out of whack and seem to be all over the place.

I understand we can't sell cars because of the "collector level" but there should at least be an option to sell duplicate cars or possibly bring back trades?
 
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About 10 hours in. I am enjoying the game just fine but i am a little bit worried about the in-game economy and endgame.

The Good:

I adore the GT Cafe and hope they expand it beyond the initial 39 offerings (already 1/4 through them!).

Quick load times and system menus are a breath of fresh air.

Enjoying the music so far!

The Bad:

The RNG tickets are absolute dogshi* and need to be adjusted in some way.

Car prices are a bit out of whack and seem to be all over the place.

I understand we can't sell cars because of the "collector level" but there should at least be an option to sell duplicate cars or possibly bring back trades?
As your collector raking rises I believe your prize output will be better.. I think the deeper you get in the game the payouts will be better.
 
@STINGer71 @Dak0ta if you click on the GT menu (top left), there's an option to straight to the map screen. Not the cafe, but at least it's close
no, i mean, in gt4, from the license menu where they explain to you how to pass it, theres a finger pointing to the right where you can go straight to the next one, in gt7 you have to go to the "general" license menu to go to the next one

 
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