FITT Challenge STi Vs Evo Battle! Results; Congratulations to Praiano63, Otaliema & Brian Wolf

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Spec Street Tuners , PARTIAL RESULTS WITH Subaru WRX V `98 , rest to come soon.

@brian wolfSubaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version V `98

GVS sport hard tires :1.10.162

Tsukuba comfort soft tires: 1.02.946


Very good car , well balanced, The only moment it don´t stay on the line is when releasing the brakes on corner entry. You need to compense with the wheel but it mess a bit with the perfect line to apex. I think it´s due to ARB 4/2. a 2/4 balance resolve this. Very nice drive on Tsukuba but you need some laps to understand the way it work on corner entry.

DC:

GVS =8.5

TSUK =8.5



@SDsnakebutt -IMPREZA Sedan WRX STi Version V '98

GVS sport hard tires : 1.10.097

Tsukuba comfort soft tires: 1.02.585


Perfect balance , perhaps too safe in some occasions where a better eagerness can pay . Need to be more aggressive on corner entry in my opinion, allowing a bit more rotation and a free rear end.


DC:

GVS = 9

TSUK =9





@Ridox2JZGTEImpreza Sedan WRX STI Version V '98

GVS sport hard tires : 1.11.012

Tsukuba comfort soft tires: 1.03.680


The car shows a perfect balance for a car with no front ballast. It just can´t pass as fast in the medium and high speed corners, camber even low value don´t help for the grip. Out of this it´s a very good car reacting well to all yours inputs.

DC:

GVS = 8.0

TSUK =8.5




@Bowtie-muscleImpreza Sedan WRX STi Version V '98

GVS sport hard tires : 1.10.169

Tsukuba comfort soft tires: 1.02.242


I love this car , you can print on the road all what you want the car to do, very easily In ,mid and out corner are perfect. Very easy to go fast.

On GVS the car is a bit unstable under strong braking for the first turn. The RH + low springs are making free the weight transfer and you need to be very sharp on your driving input to not loose the line and the speed.

Congrats.

DC:

GVS =9

TSUK =9.5





@praiano63Impreza Sedan WRX STi V '98

GVS sport hard tires :1.09.884

Tsukuba comfort soft tires: 1.02.227


I´ll not comment my ccar.Just one thing, my car is very loose at tsukuba, very hard to nail a fast lap. Very fun car,i love it because i think i´m a great drifter with it... :lol:.


DC:

GVS =9.5

TSUK =9
Those are some great times there! Mid 10s were the fastest I got in testing at Grand Valley
 
My Pro Rally Cross Tune(s)
Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01
557PP, 500HP, 1250kg

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These tune settings are for the Pro Spec Rally Cross class the Streets of Willow Springs.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/motor-city-tunes-gt6.291066/page-16#post-9725979




Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01
557PP, 500HP, 1250kg

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These tune settings are for the Pro Spec Rally Cross class at Eiger Nordwand W Trail.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/motor-city-tunes-gt6.291066/page-16#post-9725980
Your downforce/aero levels are not listed on the Eidger Nordwand tune i noticed when i was building it.
 
Pfff. My best time with any of tuners cars was 1.11.050. Often wondered why I'm slow in online racing, car or a driver. Mistery solved. It may have been the cars but the driver is just not very good. Can relax now.
Keep at it you will get faster. I've gotten 1 to 3 seconds faster since the first FITT comp in February.
It ends up going hand and hand getting faster helps you tune better, being able to tune better helps you go faster. I'm still far from the fastest driver around but I am faster than I was back than.
 
Spec Street Tuners

@SDsnakebutt -IMPREZA Sedan WRX STi Version V '98

GVS sport hard tires : 1.10.097

Tsukuba comfort soft tires: 1.02.585


Perfect balance , perhaps too safe in some occasions where a better eagerness can pay . Need to be more aggressive on corner entry in my opinion, allowing a bit more rotation and a free rear end.


DC:

GVS = 9

TSUK =9
WOW! ! THANK YOU! You have no idea how much i appreciate your compliments. When i first joined GTPlanet back in March i remember seeing a lot of post referring to GREAT Tuners like @Motor City Hami and @praiano63 (you). I have used Many Many of ur tunes before learning how to myself. So to have you say these things about My tune really put a smile on my face. Thank You for taking the time.
 
Hey guys, I'm just wondering what times you tuners got on Eiger Norwand W Trail. This is really my first time on dirt and would like to know how well I'm doing.
 
Just a heads up, there is a 5 day seasonal event running on Goodwood (Aston Martin Vantage on RH), 2 million credits for an easy run up the hill (I managed to be under gold by 1 sec+ on the first run and I hate Goodwood lol).

Not sure if its a UK/Europe only event as there are tickets for the real event on offer for the winner.
 
It is listed right under LSD torque split.

Downforce 150/350
Kk I may have just missed it I'm a 1/4 blind with out my glasses.

Hey guys, I'm just wondering what times you tuners got on Eiger Norwand W Trail. This is really my first time on dirt and would like to know how well I'm doing.
Some place around minute 3 to a minute 5 is my average
 
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Just a heads up, there is a 5 day seasonal event running on Goodwood (Aston Martin Vantage on RH), 2 million credits for an easy run up the hill (I managed to be under gold by 1 sec+ on the first run and I hate Goodwood lol).

Not sure if its a UK/Europe only event as there are tickets for the real event on offer for the winner.
Yes It is only a UK/Europe thing. I went on GT6 as soon as i saw it in the news feed and it nowhere to be found. kinda disappointed that they couldn't make the event for everyone but only eligible for the tickets in UK. BUMMER!
 
Yes It is only a UK/Europe thing. I went on GT6 as soon as i saw it in the news feed and it nowhere to be found. kinda disappointed that they couldn't make the event for everyone but only eligible for the tickets in UK. BUMMER!
Ahh shame, I can understand why its local only but it would have been nice of them to throw the rest of the world a similar event. There will almost certainly be a US only event at Willow Springs or Laguna Seca at some point to address the balance.
I was surprised at the amount of credits though, 2 million (with login bonus) for an easy 53 second event.
 
@brian wolf On your Lan Evo Super rally car can you add in your inital final gear to your transmission instructions? I figured it out but will save some headache for future testers. its 6.000
 
@suspension
On your street racer evo IX the power limiter setting does not match :

POWER: Stage 2 Engine Tuning/ Sports Computer/ High-RPM Turbo/ Power Limiter 90.3% = 515pp, 391bhp, 54kgfm, 2.97 kg/bhp

To make 515pp power limiter is at 98.4% = 399bhp 2.91kg/bhp

Is this ok? or are there tuning parts missing?
 
Ahh shame, I can understand why its local only but it would have been nice of them to throw the rest of the world a similar event. There will almost certainly be a US only event at Willow Springs or Laguna Seca at some point to address the balance.
I was surprised at the amount of credits though, 2 million (with login bonus) for an easy 53 second event.
Ya ur def right. I understand too when you put it that way. and its not like i can't grind out 2 mil in a quick 20 min of red bull racing. And if your right about other places getting there own lil events, that is pretty cool i guess. Im half and half. Im Happy for the people that get to play it, but kinda bummed for the ones that don't. But all is good. Glad you were able to get Gold and the available credits! :)
 
@brian wolf On your Lan Evo Super rally car can you add in your inital final gear to your transmission instructions? I figured it out but will save some headache for future testers. its 6.000
It wont let me save changes!! Keeps saying server error try again later. I`ll keep trying!
 
Yes It is only a UK/Europe thing. I went on GT6 as soon as i saw it in the news feed and it nowhere to be found. kinda disappointed that they couldn't make the event for everyone but only eligible for the tickets in UK. BUMMER!
For grins I went online for tickets, as Goodwood is just down the road from me by American standards, and opening day and Saturday are sold out. But the other 2 days can be booked for just over £90/per person...makes that free ticket offer worth it, whoever that lucky SoB is!:lol:
Back on topic, is there really only 2 testers still for the last set of cars/tracks? If so, I might have to put my pride aside and try my hand at rallying:nervous:
 
For grins I went online for tickets, as Goodwood is just down the road from me by American standards, and opening day and Saturday are sold out. But the other 2 days can be booked for just over £90/per person...makes that free ticket offer worth it, whoever that lucky SoB is!:lol:
Back on topic, is there really only 2 testers still for the last set of cars/tracks? If so, I might have to put my pride aside and try my hand at rallying:nervous:
Wow 90 quid for a ticket? shessh that's pushing Nascar standards for good seats here in the states, um actually thats more pricy than most football (american) tickets. Can get a good seat for about 50 USD most of the time.
I think @DolHaus is testing based on his question about lap times at Eiger. But yes we only have 2 or 3 testers for Pro Spec. So feel free to jump in.
My overall assessment of the cars for the group. jeckal and hyde for almost everyone of them. Most all picked a track type and focused on that so it's great on one and fight on the other. A couple of them are balanced but wow talk about but it was so fast on the other track, was being mumbled a lot while I was testing. I'm just waiting to hear back from @xande1959 on his torque split. I'll post the partial here in a min.
 
well they don't have it on the censor list....
Ohh a laugh a minute. really it is. I'm having a grand time with the google sheet though. learned a ton on google sheets. and I will make this avalbile to the next host if they want to use it.
 
Wow 90 quid for a ticket? shessh that's pushing Nascar standards for good seats here in the states, um actually thats more pricy than most football (american) tickets. Can get a good seat for about 50 USD most of the time.
I think @DolHaus is testing based on his question about lap times at Eiger. But yes we only have 2 or 3 testers for Pro Spec. So feel free to jump in.
My overall assessment of the cars for the group. jeckal and hyde for almost everyone of them. Most all picked a track type and focused on that so it's great on one and fight on the other. A couple of them are balanced but wow talk about but it was so fast on the other track, was being mumbled a lot while I was testing. I'm just waiting to hear back from @xande1959 on his torque split. I'll post the partial here in a min.
I'm not testing the rally cars, only the street spec class, back in the new BTCC season so my time is split between tuning and testing at the moment. I'd love to but I just don't have the time (and i'm awful at rally driving, too much sideways fun, too little forward progress lol).
 
well they don't have it on the censor list....
Ohh a laugh a minute. really it is. I'm having a grand time with the google sheet though. learned a ton on google sheets. and I will make this avalbile to the next host if they want to use it.
Admit it, hosting can be a challenge on it's own but it is kinda fun and you will do it again......just not too soon.;):lol:

Keep up the good work:tup:
 
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This is the test driving results for the Pro Spec Class for the STi Vs Evo Battle Royal
All cars were given the same treatment 5 learning laps 5 hot laps, best time is shown. DC score is per track.

Track settings Grip set to real ABS 1 all other aids off.
Streets of willow time set to 1255 pm weather set to 50% to reduce glare.

Pro Spec Rally Cross


@Gino Caberlin Lancer Evoultion Super Rally Car '03
Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:04.255 1:03.565
DC; 8.2 8.5
Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:09.555 1:10.126
DC; 7.8 7.5

Impressions of the tune; This was a good tune was a little bit tight, but it did what you told it to when you told it even on the dirt, it didn't like to turn in under coasting but would snap around soon as you hit the throttle. The 60 some odd HP it was short from class limit helped allot on the dirt kept the wheel spin under control. But it ended up hurting it on the tarmac. Also a reduced top speed on the transmission would have helped it out. I rarely if ever used 6th gear on the car. The chronic understeer and lack of turn in under breaking caused a noticeable reduction in exit speed in the corners. It would power through just about every corner fine if I was off the brakes before I started the turn in. If it started to understeer in the turn there was little I could do to correct it as lifting off caused it to get worse. Solid tune just have to be dead on with entry.

@DaBomm4 pointed out this car has chassis reinforcement on it, I will admit I missed it so just like with @brian wolf I retested this car. Both tracks.

@ImToLegitToQuit Lancer Evolution Super Rally Car '03

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:04.088
DC; 7.2

Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:08.758
DC; 6

Impressions of the tune; This car was well balanced but had this odd over/understeer thing going, some corners it would oversteer like a mad man others it would understeer like it had no rubber on the front tires. TLOR was very prevalent in this tune and was a great way to correct the understeer, but in the same breath it made the oversteering corners very difficult to get through. If I got the entry spot on this car would just blast the corners to pieces, but it would send me in the wall or the dirt if I missed the entry even by a little. The Mid range turbo gave this car a huge power band that was extremely useful on the dirt and tarmac.


@Motor City Hami Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:03.469
DC; 9.5
Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:10.822
DC; 7.5

Impressions of the tune; You can definitely tell that this tuned for dirt it was a dream to drive there. I got it on the pavement and it got interesting, it would slide into corners and oversteer out of them. Getting the entry right was tricky but if I did, it was fast. I know a 1:09 is in the car. I think maybe the transmission is a bit short here, it gets to redline at the end of the back straight but it’s way out of power band so it’s losing a lot of power by than. I would still take this tune to a tarmac track and have a grand time it was a blast to drive just quirky on the pavement. If you can tame it you will go fast.


@Ronald6 Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:04.127
DC; 7.0

Streets of Willow
Lap Time;1:10.171
DC;8.5

Impressions of the tune;
This car was odd it was twitchy and did what you told it to do. It liked to float around the track, good turn in and exit grip but very light in the mid corner grip department this really hurt on the dirt when I would just slide out. I could not turn under braking while on dirt, but the BLOR was done well so I could break very late “crank the wheel” lift off and snap the tail around.


@xande1959 Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:04.648
DC; 9.6

Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:10.830
DC; 7.0

Impressions of the tune;
This car was consistent stable and predicable. I would take this online or to a A-Spec race any day for the dirt. On the tarmac it suffered from chronic understeer that made getting around quickly very hard. Again it was consistent just not quick. The transmission was well timed for the Mid-range turbo could have benefited from a longer 6th gear on the tarmac to better use the power band. It was a safe tune for the dirt which made it great to drive on it. Actually pulled an achievement with it. 3 Monstrous laps :D well done sir. On the tarmac it needed something to help it around the corners.

@brian wolf Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Super Rally Car `03

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:02.891
DC; 9.0
Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:10.284 1:09.217
DC; 6.0 8.0

Impressions of the tune; This is another car tuned for the dirt like @Motor City Hami it was fast as stink there and dream to drive, a bit floaty but once i got that down it ate the track for breakfast and asked for seconds. It was a totally different animal on the tarmac, conic understeer at speed and severe oversteer at slow speed made getting this car around the track a fight. All in the same breath on the pavement this car was tight loose oversteering understeering monster that would punish you for the smallest slight in your technique. The Cross eye host of the challenge missed the torque split change for the tarmarc -_-. I took the car back out with the correct tarmac settings. The cronic under/oversteer pretty much went away. It had LOUS *lift off understeer* and power oversteer with the corecct settings. This made a world of difference with the car it became a very good car on the tarmac. It was still floaty at high speed and liked to try and fish out if I smashed the gas but I was able to put a very nice lap together with it.


@Otaliema Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01 FITT tune

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:03.964
DC; 7.0

Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:08.764
DC; 7.5

Impressions of the tune;
This is a hot lap tune, it’s unforgiving but very quick, it compromises between the tracks well making it not fantastic on dirt or the tarmac but did very well on both. It was loose very loose compared to the other cars I think maybe some more downforce on the tail would have helped it stay in place better. This car was the fastest car of the group hitting near 230 km/h at willow and near 190 km/h at Eiger, But all the speed came at a price of long braking zones and little recovery chance if you cooked an entry.
 
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Alrite Spreadsheet is all done!!! woot that was a lot of code. :lol:
@Bowtie-muscle your proly right but not be in the summer to much todo with the kiddo's :D

@DolHaus well dang it :lol: have fun with the BTCC stuff. If you find you have the time have at it. And rally is no worse than 100% wet on CH tires :rolleyes: actually I take that back it's better I can go forward on the dirt I just spin with CH on wet :lol: :cheers:
 
This is the test driving results for the Pro Spec Class for the STi Vs Evo Battle Royal
All cars were given the same treatment 5 learning laps 5 hot laps, best time is shown. DC score is per track.

Track settings Grip set to real ABS 1 all other aids off.
Streets of willow time set to 1255 pm weather set to 50% to reduce glare.

Pro Spec Rally Cross


@Gino Caberlin Lancer Evoultion Super Rally Car '03
Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:04.255
DC; 8.2
Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:09.555
DC; 7.8

Impressions of the tune; This was a good tune was a little tight, but it did what you told it to when you told it even on the dirt. The 60 some odd HP it was short from class limit helped allot on the dirt kept the wheel spin under control. But it ended up hurting it on the tarmac. Also a reduced top speed on the transmission would have helped it out. I rarely if ever used 6th gear on the car.

@ImToLegitToQuit Lancer Evolution Super Rally Car '03

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:04.088
DC; 7.2

Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:08.758
DC; 6

Impressions of the tune; This car was well balanced but had this odd over/understeer thing going, some corners it would oversteer like a mad man others it would understeer like it had no rubber on the front tires. TLOR was very prevalent in this tune and was a great way to correct the understeer, but in the same breath it made the oversteering corners very difficult to get through. If I got the entry spot on this car would just blast the corners to pieces, but it would send me in the wall or the dirt if I missed the entry even by a little. The Mid range turbo gave this car a huge power band that was extremely useful on the dirt and tarmac.


@Motor City Hami Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:03.469
DC; 9.5
Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:10.822
DC; 7.5

Impressions of the tune; You can definitely tell that this tuned for dirt it was a dream to drive there. I got it on the pavement and it got interesting, it would slide into corners and oversteer out of them. Getting the entry right was tricky but if I did, it was fast. I know a 1:09 is in the car. I think maybe the transmission is a bit short here, it gets to redline at the end of the back straight but it’s way out of power band so it’s losing a lot of power by than. I would still take this tune to a tarmac track and have a grand time it was a blast to drive just quirky on the pavement. If you can tame it you will go fast.


@Ronald6 Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:04.127
DC; 7.0

Streets of Willow
Lap Time;1:10.171
DC;8.5

Impressions of the tune;
This car was odd it was twitchy and did what you told it to do. It liked to float around the track, good turn in and exit grip but very light in the mid corner grip department this really hurt on the dirt when I would just slide out. I could not turn under braking while on dirt, but the BLOR was done well so I could break very late “crank the wheel” lift off and snap the tail around.


@xande1959 Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time;
DC;

Streets of Willow
Lap Time;
DC;

Impressions of the tune;


@brian wolf Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Super Rally Car `03

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:02.891
DC; 9.0
Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:10.284
DC;6.0

Impressions of the tune; This is another car tuned for the dirt like @Motor City Hami it was fast as stink there and dream to drive, a bit floaty but once i got that down it ate the track for breakfast and asked for seconds. It was a totally different animal on the tarmac, conic understeer at speed and severe oversteer at slow speed made getting this car around the track a fight. All in the same breath on the pavement this car was tight loose oversteering understeering monster that would punish you for the smallest slight in your technique.


@Otaliema Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01 FITT tune

Eiger Nordwand W Trail
Lap Time; 1:03.964
DC; 7.0

Streets of Willow
Lap Time; 1:08.764
DC; 7.5

Impressions of the tune;
This is a hot lap tune, it’s unforgiving but very quick, it compromises between the tracks well making it not fantastic on dirt or the tarmac but did very well on both. It was loose very loose compared to the other cars I think maybe some more downforce on the tail would have helped it stay in place better. This car was the fastest car of the group hitting near 230 km/h at willow and near 190 km/h at Eiger, But all the speed came at a price of long braking zones and little recovery chance if you cooked an entry.
Well reviewed!!:cheers: I thought i`d got a good compromise between dirt and tarmac!! maybe not.........:)
 
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