I don't know it will be interesting enough to last that long. One setting isn't going to make much noticeable difference to the driving experience or allow for adequate adaptation between tests, unless your car was one of the top runners after the first test and only had one small thing wrong with it you'd be stuck sucking lemons because you weren't sure what you were doing with the transmission and LSD in the first place and now need to change both.
That's the challenge of the challenge. You will know the tracks so you can test at all of them. The non vote tracks will be different enough that in normal challenges the tunes would be notable different.
I think a gentlemen's agreement would have to be put in place saying that there will be no pre-tuning. Minor adjustments such as removing camber/toe and a quick diff/trans tune to attain a more accurate picture of the cars performance will be allowed but must be applied equally to all test cars and further tweaking is banned.
I did try that in the British Invasion, cars were close with similar base tune but the Elise became a rocket when tuned. I also tried same weight power and torque, but the Jag had more PD grip than the Aston. In the latest challenge, Shaun put a base tune of only minor changes to all the cars and was looking for a time range. All cars we're close, but not so much when fully tuned out.
easy way to check. knock the cars down 15PP and lap them.
The jag and aston were perfectly balanced, I ran the exact same tune on both and they were all but identical, the aston had more straight line speed, the jag was marginally faster in the corners. The Elise was always going to be a threat, its just one of those cars.
One thing I did notice when I was trying to figure out why the 135i couldn't keep up was tyre width, I parked it next to an M4 and a CSL using photo travel and it was immediately noticeable that the tyres were a lot thinner on the 135i. Bit of a pain in the ass if you've got a lot of cars to go through but could save entering an unexpected lemon
Well I'm always up for a little hot lapping so gimme a shout if you want some input and feedback 👍I had an idea over a year ago, I didn't have time to test my car choices enough, and since @Motor City Hami did the Ford challenge I was thinking of working up 1 or 2 challenges for the other American rivals. I'm thinking 1-2 cars per class, if there is enough interest in @DolHaus's idea, I could use this challenge as a test run for that idea? I know I have some ironing to do on my plan though, so discuss away.
I will add you to the group once I get it up and running.
That's usually how it goes. Hosts have a slight advantage because they test drive all of the cars when putting the event together. Not too much can be done about it unless it's a 1 car shoot out with the project car chosen at random 5 minutes before posting the challenge....💡
The idea is to end up with balanced cars for everyone when the contest opens so knowing what each car is like to drive will hardly be an advantage. The testing group is also open to anyone so if you are still concerned that the testers have an advantage then you are more than welcome to sign up and help out 👍
Getting cars to that "even starting point" can be a challenge in itself. If car A needs to have additional P points added to get the lap times close to car B, the part(s) installed to accomplish this could vary, unless it's dictated that you have to install the intake tuning as opposed to say.... a Sports: cat converter. Does that make sense, cuz it does in my head.
Yeah for sure it can be difficult to get them balanced but hopefully many hands will make light work. The idea is just to give the organiser feedback so they can get clarification, its never going to be perfect but hopefully it will be helpful. Minor parts differences won't make too much difference and a suggested tuning approach will be available for our less experienced members (ie. max weight reduction = biggest gains on most cars)Getting cars to that "even starting point" can be a challenge in itself. If car A needs to have additional P points added to get the lap times close to car B, the part(s) installed to accomplish this could vary, unless it's dictated that you have to install the intake tuning as opposed to say.... a Sports: cat converter. Does that make sense, cuz it does in my head.
