I don't want to break up the flow of discussion revolving around Laguna Seca, but since this is the thread to discuss Forza vs. GT, I have something new to add.
This is just me, but aside from Forza fan boys and GT ones, I've noticed a third type of person. They're basically guys that criticize GT and talk about how great Forza is, but yet continue to play GT5 all the time. Also, despite talking about how great Forza is, they can't seem to get themselves to play the game even if they have the means (i.e. own a Xbox 360).
Aside from seeing people online who fit this description, I have a friend I know in person who is like this. It's kind of funny and painful to watch him play all the time and yet complain, but after looking at the features in Forza that are not in GT5 and getting hyped about them, when he does get the opportunity to play Forza 4 he kind of shrugs off the game with a vague statement, "The handling feels wrong", despite still having an opinion that Forza is the better game. From there, he goes back to playing GT5 and back to the old bickering.
I've actually told him this, but these kind of people remind me of girls who keep on dating jerks and complaining about them, but yet when a non-jerk (though not necessarily a "nice guy") who is a much better match for the girl shows interest in her, she either tells him they're too good of friends or he's too nice of a guy. From there, she goes back to being with jerk guys and complaining again.
I should note I'm not advocating one game over the other here, but I just wonder why some people complain about GT5 so much but yet continue to play it? This even makes less sense when some of these people talk about how great another rival title in the racing genre is but seem to back down when they are offered to play that game or they try it out.
