FM4 Autumn Launch plus Boxart,content reveal..

[Spagetti69]

^ You can start grinding now though.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Now, I'm not much of a painter. And it drives me crazy that painting has taken so much of the focus of the game while they've cut feature after feature after feature that racers loved. So, maybe I'm seeing this with more of a critical eye than I should.

But, carrying over paints and credits from 3 to 4 might not be as good a idea as some would think. To me, it just means that the same crappy anime and spammed stuff from FM3 that clogged up the storefront are going to be there on day one on FM4. Also means that the same people who played Forza tycoon that were freely able to buy all the really expensive cars the average racers couldn't are going to have a garage full of the 20 million credit cars on day one as well. While the guy who just races will be forced to grind away for months on end just to get one of them.

I have to agree with you. Very annoying seeing liveries with anime characters when I was looking for actual racing liveries for my cars.

But about the credit and grinding, I'm really curious about FM4's carrer mode, how much money you get for races and how much cars are going to cost.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

I wonder if it will come out on PC for better wheel support? Hopefully there is a suprise in store for E3.

 

[McLaren]

I wonder if it will come out on PC for better wheel support? Hopefully there is a suprise in store for E3.

It won't. The title will remain a X360-exclusive.

 

[DUI Shenanigans]

As a PWTS owner, This is completely untrue. If you boot the system and wheel up in the correct order, and the wheel is set to 900deg when it boots up, you get the full 900deg of the wheel to use.

just tired what you said, and no the game itself does no register the 900 degrees. open up your telemetry and look for yourself

 

[Saidur_Ali]

It won't. The title will remain a X360-exclusive.

Any confirmation? On the official website it does not mention it being exclusive to Xbox 360 as far as I know anyway. Like Shift 2 Turn 10 will then be able to publish better in-game footage in advertisements.

 

[t.o.]

Any confirmation? On the official website it does not mention it being exclusive to Xbox 360 as far as I know anyway. Like Shift 2 Turn 10 will then be able to publish better in-game footage in advertisements.

Forza 1,2 and 3 have all been 360 exclusives. Microsoft is the biggest backer of Forza, hell , the only backer of Forza. This has become their flagship racing game on the 360 platform. As long as GT5 remains a PS3 exclusive you can pretty much bank on Forza remaining a 360 exclusive.

 

[VXR]

Forza's niche is the community and car culture features. Want straight racing, go play other sims where you can't create anime liveries or liveries at all. FM would be just another identikit sim if it weren't for the painting, car selling and tune sharing.

 

[Dave A]

Forza 1,2 and 3 have all been 360 exclusives. Microsoft is the biggest backer of Forza, hell , the only backer of Forza. This has become their flagship racing game on the 360 platform. As long as GT5 remains a PS3 exclusive you can pretty much bank on Forza remaining a 360 exclusive.

Turn 10 are a first party publisher of Microsofts, they won't make games for any other platform except a Microsoft one and they won't make Forza for the PC because they want to maximise X-Box sales.

 

[cuco33]

I see they're playing the "exclusive" launch day DLC card again.

BTW, excellent write up 1081. And before all the photo junkies get all worked up over how good those shots look. Remember that you all saw these incredible pictures before FM3 was released that were supposedly taken in game. But weren't.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of exclusive DLC especially for preorders and I hope it's for painted/tuned versions of the cars in game. It seems to be the norm as every racing game seems to do this now, from FM3 to GT5 to now FM4 and other racers like NFS series and the like.

All the photos T10 took for FM3 and used as promotion were taken directly from the game's photo mode. T10 didn't lie and even went as far as saying they didn't touch up any of the images they used for promotion. Photo modes add extra polish but they aren't bullshots (touched up outside the game) nor are they the quality of the in gameplay visuals.

 

[cuco33]

This Ruf talk has me nervous though. I hope this doesn't mean they were unable to secure Porsche this time around. Can only mean EA are really turning into some huge A-holes if this is the case.

This is what I fear. I really REALLY hope that Porsche is still in the game and they added RUF.

 

[cuco33]

Now, I'm not much of a painter. And it drives me crazy that painting has taken so much of the focus of the game while they've cut feature after feature after feature that racers loved. So, maybe I'm seeing this with more of a critical eye than I should.

But, carrying over paints and credits from 3 to 4 might not be as good a idea as some would think. To me, it just means that the same crappy anime and spammed stuff from FM3 that clogged up the storefront are going to be there on day one on FM4. Also means that the same people who played Forza tycoon that were freely able to buy all the really expensive cars the average racers couldn't are going to have a garage full of the 20 million credit cars on day one as well. While the guy who just races will be forced to grind away for months on end just to get one of them.

Since Forza 1 on last gen's xbox, the livery editor was a huge thing. T10 made improvements in FM2 and major strides with FM3. Likewise, since it is such a big popular thing, T10 continued expanding the livery editor side of the game.

Like I said in the previous thread, T10 didn't cut out feature after feature after feature like you are claiming so. Sure some didn't make it, some took a step back but overall each iteration of Forza has been a major stride forward with almost every feature in the game.

Likewise, on top of the crappy anime you don't like, all the good liveries and vinyl groups will make their way over as well. When given freedom like that you'll get a mix of pretty awesome custom stuff to really crappy custom stuff. Just look at PC games and their mods, or LBP/MNR's custom levels/tracks. You are blowing it WAY out of proportion. Don't fear the Forza, embrace it like you would a GT 💡

 

[Northstar]

Can't remember what game it was, but I'm fairly certain there was a game in the early 90's that had both RUF and Porsche.

People need to stop worrying though, they aren't competitors in real life like some people seem to believe. If they were RUF would be out of business.

I'm starting to debate buying a 360 and F3 to get a head start now.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Forza 1,2 and 3 have all been 360 exclusives. Microsoft is the biggest backer of Forza, hell , the only backer of Forza. This has become their flagship racing game on the 360 platform. As long as GT5 remains a PS3 exclusive you can pretty much bank on Forza remaining a 360 exclusive.

I know they have all been 360 exclusives and rightly you say Microsoft are their biggest backer, probably because they own Turn 10 💡.

You should also know that Games for Windows is Microsoft's other platform and quite a lot of simulation racers are mainly on the PC platform so they might try and expand the franchise on that platform. They also earn more revenue on Windows platform as they own it too, so it wouldn't make sense for Sony to tell PD to make it for a Microsoft platform as it does for T10 to be asked by Microsoft to make it for PC, their own platform.

Turn 10 are a first party publisher of Microsofts, they won't make games for any other platform except a Microsoft one and they won't make Forza for the PC because they want to maximise X-Box sales.

PC is a Microsoft platform and they get a lot of revenue from it so it will still be in their interest to make Forza for PC.

Here is a quote of what some Microsoft spokesperson said about PC gaming:

In terms of revenue, Windows is far and away the largest gaming platform in the world, so it's an incredibly important part of Microsoft's business.

Source: Click Here

Anyway I'm not convinced it will be entirely on the 360 until they say so themselves and unlike Forza 3 I have not seen on their official website it is exclusively for 360. On PC they could have photo-mode graphics in in-game racing and running at 60FPS and 1080p on three screens with max detail on a mid-range gaming PC. Not only that but support for more wheels. Like Shift they can also advertise using their PC footage which is much more impressive than 360 footage.

 

[McLaren]

They are not making Forza for the PC. It is a console-seller, thus it will remain an exclusive to the system.
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1139833p1.html

Microsoft and developer Turn 10 confirmed Forza Motorsport 4 will ship for the Xbox 360 in Fall 2011.

I also think some people are over thinking the rewards system. I highly doubt the Profile Importer is actually going to import your entire career stats from FM3, esp. when it says "based on".

 

[cuco33]

To be honest.. I wouldn't mind Forza 4 going to PC. It'd mean we can play the game w/more wheel options and potentially have a community who improve physics, audio and visuals with their custom mods.

But I highly doubt Forza 4 will go PC

 

[Saidur_Ali]

They are not making Forza for the PC. It is a console-seller, thus it will remain an exclusive to the system.
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1139833p1.html


I also think some people are over thinking the rewards system. I highly doubt the Profile Importer is actually going to import your entire career stats from FM3, esp. when it says "based on".

I think it is more of a game that bridges Playstation gamers to the Xbox as for Sony GT series is the biggest seller. You can see the way Microsoft uses Forza by making Forza the cheapest 360 game you can buy certainly in the UK. They must subsidise the cost a bit from consumers as the Forza 3 game was two disc.

That quote does not say exclusive to the 360 platform, they usually use that term so it will be interesting to see what happens at E3.

For example here they mention exclusively on Xbox 360.

 

[HighSeasHoMastr]

That quote does not say exclusive to the 360 platform, they usually use that term so it will be interesting to see what happens at E3.

From the article in the OP:

Gear up for the highly anticipated launch of Forza Motorsport 4 this Autumn, as the highest rated racing franchise of this generation returns, exclusively on Xbox 360.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

From the article in the OP:

That could be just an assumption. However the official article it does not mention it at all: http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/preorder/. By the way I know there is only a slim chance but I find it a bit strange that officially they are not mentioning it is exclusive to the 360 like they did with Forza 3. They only mention it returning to 360.

 

[McLaren]

If you want to believe it will be released for anything other than the Xbox 360, go ahead; you will be disappointed if you hype yourself up. It is commonly known that it is an Xbox-only title b/c like Gran Turismo, it moves consoles off the shelves.

 

[Terronium-12]

That could be just an assumption. However the official article it does not mention it at all: http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/preorder/. By the way I know there is only a slim chance but I find it a bit strange that officially they are not mentioning it is exclusive to the 360 like they did with Forza 3. They only mention it returning to 360.

It's not coming out for PC. Simple as.

It's possible you could see FM2 or 3 at some point similar to when Halo 2 released for Vista.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

If you want to believe it will be released for anything other than the Xbox 360, go ahead; you will be disappointed if you hype yourself up. It is commonly known that it is an Xbox-only title b/c like Gran Turismo, it moves consoles off the shelves.

I'm not hyping myself up over it coming to PC. Fable 3 got released recently on PC and Lionhead Studios is part of Microsoft Game Studios like Turn 10 is. I doubt Forza is as much system seller as GT is as Microsoft try and give the game away either in game or any bundle form. Halo is what really sells 360s the most. Forza is more of a bridge for Playstation gamers and was the reason why the franchise was introduced in the first place but it is becoming a lot bigger than that now. I guess you can argue it is a bigger system seller as it takes away previous Playstation gamers away and makes the Xbox platform their primary platform.

It's not coming out for PC. Simple as.

It's possible you could see FM2 or 3 at some point similar to when Halo 2 released for Vista.

No proof to say it is not, slim chance like I said but Fable 3 came out on PC, why no chance for the latest Forza game to use PC platform as a showcase for graphics.

 

[Spagetti69]

What about on the Wii then?

 

[Saidur_Ali]

What about on the Wii then?

Highly unlikely as it is less powerful than a 360 so it will force T10 to make a new game for it or outsource it and it also is not a platform of Microsofts. By the way I know you are just joking.

 

[Terronium-12]

No proof to say it is not, slim chance like I said but Fable 3 came out on PC, why no chance for the latest Forza game to use PC platform as a showcase for graphics.

Fable and Fable 2 were also released on the PC. Your point?

How about the proof that Microsoft doesn't want to, oh I don't know, detract from it selling on the 360? If they wanted it to be a GFW title, it would have become one already.

 

[t.o.]

.........and quite a lot of simulation racers are mainly on the PC platform ......

Pretty much says it all. I think you helped answer your own question.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Fable and Fable 2 were also released on the PC. Your point?

How about the proof that Microsoft doesn't want to, oh I don't know, detract from it selling on the 360? If they wanted it to be a GFW title, it would have become one already.

Fable 2 was exclusive for 360 and did not get released on PC. However they just released Fable 3 on the PC last week, months after the 360 version. Looks like they have not given up on the PC platform. Where is the proof that Microsoft doesn't want to sell it on PC? They can change their minds like they did again with Fable series.

Pretty much says it all. I think you helped answer your own question.

Confused about this? I don't think I've answered my own question, only statements from Microsoft or Turn 10 can answer my original question and if they are to put the game on PC, we will most likely find out at E3.

 

[tfujiwara]

I dont know what to ask for from FM4.
180sx?

 

[t.o.]

To be frank man I don't know what it is you want to hear, but you're more than likely not gonna hear it here. Forza 4 has as much chance of getting released on the PC as a snowball has a chance of surviving hell. It's not happening any time soon. It is what it is and that's it. Forza is their console-seller to some point and that will only be getting more and more true.

 

[Terronium-12]

Fable 2 was exclusive for 360 and did not get released on PC. However they just released Fable 3 on the PC last week, months after the 360 version. Looks like they have not given up on the PC platform. Where is the proof that Microsoft doesn't want to sell it on PC? They can change their minds like they did again with Fable series.


Confused about this? I don't think I've answered my own question, only statements from Microsoft or Turn 10 can answer my original question and if they are to put the game on PC, we will most likely find out at E3.

Are you completely delusional or just clueless?

Microsoft is not giving up on the PC platform, nor do they have any intention of contemplating the idea. They have Games for Windows, Games for Windows LIVE (direct compatibility with your Xbox Live account), they have DirectX, they have Windows (which is, quite frankly, going nowhere anytime soon), etc, etc. Again, they're not releasing Forza 4 on the PC because it would detract (take away from) from sales on the 360 - Microsoft's own gaming console. What about that goes over your head? Fable and Fable 3 being released for Windows has absolutely no relation to Forza. Forza moves consoles off the shelves, Fable doesn't (at least not in the way Forza does). PGR3 was moving consoles left and right when the 360 launched, do you see that on PC? Do you see PGR4...do you see any PGR game on the PC?

Am I...am I getting through to you at all?