FM4 Autumn Launch plus Boxart,content reveal..

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I guess as well as vinyl groups, whole designs from your catalogue will be going over? Got some nice cars and personal ones that will be great to see in the new game, as I'm sure most FM3 players will have.

One thing that keeps me coming back compared to any other racer, is that most of the cars are my race cars. That's pretty much priceless compared to something like DiRT3 where most of the liveries are awful.
 
I'm not hyping myself up over it coming to PC.
The way you constantly reply to the answer, "No, it's not", makes it seem otherwise.

Fable 3 got released recently on PC and Lionhead Studios is part of Microsoft Game Studios like Turn 10 is.
Fable 3 isn't the platform seller that is FM, either.
I doubt Forza is as much system seller as GT is as Microsoft try and give the game away either in game or any bundle form. Halo is what really sells 360s the most. Forza is more of a bridge for Playstation gamers and was the reason why the franchise was introduced in the first place but it is becoming a lot bigger than that now. I guess you can argue it is a bigger system seller as it takes away previous Playstation gamers away and makes the Xbox platform their primary platform.
Really? Is that not why as of late, several members have said they have thought about buying an X360 for FM4?

Forza moves consoles. There's no denying that, esp. now that the Halo series is in limbo.

No proof to say it is not, slim chance like I said but Fable 3 came out on PC, why no chance for the latest Forza game to use PC platform as a showcase for graphics.
The proof is called common sense, esp. when the game is really pushing the Kinect feature within' it. They want this on the X360 & they want it to help move Kinects.

You claim you're not hyping yourself up, but again, you reply that our links are not proof. Well, what proof do you have that says the game has this "slim chance" that it will be released on the PC? Other games don't count.
 
I doubt Forza is as much system seller as GT is as Microsoft try and give the game away either in game or any bundle form. Halo is what really sells 360s the most.

Isn't that the best way to sell something, giving away (or adding) a product that entices the customer? Halo is available as a bundle too, does that mean it doesn't sell the console?

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Besides isn't there another thread for this argument?
 
Ok, so we established that Forza is not going to come out on the PC. Imagine the chaos that would cause if they did though. They can't keep people from glitching and cheating on a closed network like XBL. Out there in the PC world with endless hackers and modders it would be nuts.

Which reminds me. If I were the gambling type, I'd say it's good money that this whole transferring of credits from one game to another is going to be the cause of this versions "money glitch". Won't take them long to figure out how to transfer credits without actually losing them on FM3 which will allow them to repeat endlessly.
 
I believe you guys are over thinking these credit transfers. It will probably be setup similar to GT, where as previous GT players normally got around a $10,000 bonus.
 
I believe you guys are over thinking these credit transfers. It will probably be setup similar to GT, where as previous GT players normally got around a $10,000 bonus.

I think they are more worried about people being able to import all their paints from F3 than putting them on the marketplace straight away basically giving them a head start. Although perhaps you won't be able to put transferred schemes online.

Wonder what's going to be in the LE version?
 
I believe you guys are over thinking these credit transfers. It will probably be setup similar to GT, where as previous GT players normally got around a $10,000 bonus.

Maybe, maybe not. We know that there will be a money glitch. For 3 straight releases they've proven they don't know how to produce a game without a money glitch. My guess is this one will have alot to do with all this transferring going on from game to game.

The same as we know there will be speed glitches. I'd bet the 400 mph R1 cars make their 4th straight appearance. Then there will be some crazy glitch out of the blue. Like the AWD glitch on FM2, or the stock tranny glitches of FM3.
 
Maybe, maybe not. We know that there will be a money glitch. For 3 straight releases they've proven they don't know how to produce a game without a money glitch. My guess is this one will have alot to do with all this transferring going on from game to game.

The same as we know there will be speed glitches. I'd bet the 400 mph R1 cars make their 4th straight appearance. Then there will be some crazy glitch out of the blue. Like the AWD glitch on FM2, or the stock tranny glitches of FM3.

First I'm hearing of the speed glitch...what's that all about?
 
There's been various ones. All three Forza's have had the super high speed R class cars. R1 (LMP1) cars that could be glitched to 400+ mph on the ovals.

FM2 had the AWD glitch, which let you take 60's musclecars, stuff em with 1000hp, then glitch them into AWD. Which obviously made the 1000hp beast on stock tires much easier and faster to get around the track.

Among others, FM3 has the transmission glitch. Which was labeled as not a showstopper by the T10 people. Basically it allowed you to tune gears with a stock transmission, saving you the PI you would have needed to spend on a race transmission. Then there was the way you could glitch certain cars down in class. At one point there were LMP Mazda's glitched all the way down into S class.

To be fair, eventually T10 addressed all these glitches. But it was only after huge uproars from the community that they even acknowledged some of them, much less fixed them. Meanwhile jumping on every credit glitch as if their very lives depended on it.
 
To be frank man I don't know what it is you want to hear, but you're more than likely not gonna hear it here. Forza 4 has as much chance of getting released on the PC as a snowball has a chance of surviving hell. It's not happening any time soon. It is what it is and that's it. Forza is their console-seller to some point and that will only be getting more and more true.

If you read my post, you should know what I want to hear, that is official confirmation by Microsoft or Turn 10 that it is an Xbox 360 exclusive which they have yet to mention unlike previous Forza games where they have.
Are you completely delusional or just clueless?

Microsoft is not giving up on the PC platform, nor do they have any intention of contemplating the idea. They have Games for Windows, Games for Windows LIVE (direct compatibility with your Xbox Live account), they have DirectX, they have Windows (which is, quite frankly, going nowhere anytime soon), etc, etc. Again, they're not releasing Forza 4 on the PC because it would detract (take away from) from sales on the 360 - Microsoft's own gaming console. What about that goes over your head? Fable and Fable 3 being released for Windows has absolutely no relation to Forza. Forza moves consoles off the shelves, Fable doesn't (at least not in the way Forza does). PGR3 was moving consoles left and right when the 360 launched, do you see that on PC? Do you see PGR4...do you see any PGR game on the PC?

Am I...am I getting through to you at all?

Personal attacks are not the best way to approach arguments.

Anyway I think you misunderstood what I said. If you read in context, you would see I meant the PC gaming platform and the sign of Fable 3 coming to PC is a sign of them not keeping their exclusives just for the 360 and by doing this they are not letting their PC gaming platform die. I never said they are giving up on the PC platform.

Fable series is as big seller as Forza is. I don’t have numbers on which has moved the system most but looking at Europe and Japan figures both are not doing particularly well, maybe Forza has a edge over Fable but nothing more. Anyway, you could say Fable returning back to PC detracts sales from the 360 console but Microsoft gain sales on their other platform. They have three platforms, one mobile, one PC and one console. They have established the Forza series already on the 360, why not gain sales on other platforms and get into the Japenese and European Market more if they are struggling to do that with their console with that game.

PGR3 being a launch title certainly helped, and I’m sure other launch titles helped move the system. I did not see PGR series on PC, but we did see a couple of Halo titles on PC, which I reckon is the main Xbox system seller. Games are not what usually move PC systems either which is irrelevant, maybe Crysis moves high end gaming PCs but that is all as PC is generally more multi purpose than a console mainly designed for gaming. I think on custom PCs Microsoft will be more looking into OS licenses purchased than the actual system sold if it is custom and not OEM.
The way you constantly reply to the answer, "No, it's not", makes it seem otherwise.


Fable 3 isn't the platform seller that is FM, either.

Really? Is that not why as of late, several members have said they have thought about buying an X360 for FM4?

Forza moves consoles. There's no denying that, esp. now that the Halo series is in limbo.


The proof is called common sense, esp. when the game is really pushing the Kinect feature within' it. They want this on the X360 & they want it to help move Kinects.

You claim you're not hyping yourself up, but again, you reply that our links are not proof. Well, what proof do you have that says the game has this "slim chance" that it will be released on the PC? Other games don't count.
Believe me or not I will be hardly disappointed if it does not come out on the PC. All I’m saying is there is a chance, no one has yet official proof it is not.

Sure Fable series might not be the platform seller that Forza is but I’m sure there is very little in it as in terms of software numbers there is probably only a million in it and considering Forza is usually the cheapest Xbox and content rich game you can buy, Fable is not doing too badly.

You say the proof is common sense, I know it is common to believe that things will not change but it has happened in the past and it will happen in the future. There is nothing in common with say Tekken or Final Fantasy changing to multi platform with 360 included but it happened.

You should also know that Kinect is also getting PC support and maybe in E3 they will announce it too. The PC platform can help Microsoft move Kinects too.

Opinions are not proof, the links are an assumption the same as your opinion, however Microsoft and Turn 10 are leaving the door open by not saying it is exclusive yet in any official article or statement which is unlike what they did with previous Forzas. Maybe it might not be for PC and instead for the Next-gen Xbox platform but with E3 coming up I’m sure Turn 10 have a few surprises in store for E3, PC or no PC.

I’m happy to back down over my stance of saying it has a slim chance if you can find anything official saying so but if it is just your opinion again then that is hardly proof. It is not like I’m saying there is a massive chance, I’m just picking up on the way Turn 10 and Microsoft are wording their articles and responses as it is leaving the door open for some other platform if they announce it later on. I know it is coming out on the 360, which is what Microsoft and Turn 10 have confirmed but they have not used the key word exclusive like they did before Forza 3 launched. It will most likely remain a Microsoft exclusive for it's lifetime unless someone buys the IP of them.

Isn't that the best way to sell something, giving away (or adding) a product that entices the customer? Halo is available as a bundle too, does that mean it doesn't sell the console?

Besides isn't there another thread for this argument?
As you can see they way they are bundling Halo in the image you posted, a special design on the 360 and controller, unlike Forza which is just a plain console. However I do believe that Forza does move consoles quite a lot, but Halo for me moves the most by far for that platform as seen by the amount of sales we see with every Halo launch. I was just referring to Forza not as big system seller as GT is for Playstation, which is not indicating it doesn’t sell consoles.

I didn’t intend this to get into an argument; it seems people are not happy with me not accepting their opinion as fact when I’m just stating that it could be a slim possibility. I even will back down on my stance that it is a slim chance of it happening soon if there is any official proof but soon as there isn’t any; I don’t get what is people’s problem in me mentioning it as a possibility.

Ok, so we established that Forza is not going to come out on the PC. Imagine the chaos that would cause if they did though. They can't keep people from glitching and cheating on a closed network like XBL. Out there in the PC world with endless hackers and modders it would be nuts.

Which reminds me. If I were the gambling type, I'd say it's good money that this whole transferring of credits from one game to another is going to be the cause of this versions "money glitch". Won't take them long to figure out how to transfer credits without actually losing them on FM3 which will allow them to repeat endlessly.
I don’t think we have established it yet, like I say a slim chance but if Microsoft and Turn 10 have not shut the door by not banging on it being the definite racing game exclusive only to Xbox 360, then I don’t see why I should completely rule out the possibility. They did say Forza 4 has unmatched graphics, this could only be really achieved using the PC but I guess they will do their best on the 360 to match that claim. If there is a 1% chance, it is still a chance; I’m still surprised how sensitive people are about this stance.
 
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Maybe, maybe not. We know that there will be a money glitch. For 3 straight releases they've proven they don't know how to produce a game without a money glitch. My guess is this one will have alot to do with all this transferring going on from game to game.

The same as we know there will be speed glitches. I'd bet the 400 mph R1 cars make their 4th straight appearance. Then there will be some crazy glitch out of the blue. Like the AWD glitch on FM2, or the stock tranny glitches of FM3.
Until the game actually releases, we do not know anything about what glitches there are. Do not post your assumptions as fact.
Opinions are not proof, the links are an assumption the same as your opinion, however Microsoft and Turn 10 are leaving the door open by not saying it is exclusive yet in any official article or statement which is unlike what they did with previous Forzas. Maybe it might not be for PC and instead for the Next-gen Xbox platform but with E3 coming up I’m sure Turn 10 have a few surprises in store for E3, PC or no PC.
My post is not opinion. It is fact. Want a source? Here it is again.
IGN
Microsoft and developer Turn 10 confirmed Forza Motorsport 4 will ship for the Xbox 360 in Fall 2011.
Release Date: Q3 2010
Exclusively on: Xbox 360
RP for Rating Pending

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/077/077615.html

Post proof that says this is wrong, that this is assumption. You must have a valid reason for why you think it may be released on the PC other than what other games do. So post it, or stop with this "slim chance" nonsense.
I’m happy to back down over my stance of saying it has a slim chance if you can find anything official saying so but if it is just your opinion again then that is hardly proof. It is not like I’m saying there is a massive chance, I’m just picking up on the way Turn 10 and Microsoft are wording their articles and responses as it is leaving the door open for some other platform if they announce it later on. I know it is coming out on the 360, which is what Microsoft and Turn 10 have confirmed but they have not used the key word exclusive like they did before Forza 3 launched. It will most likely remain a Microsoft exclusive for it's lifetime unless someone buys the IP of them.
I have posted my proof. Post yours, b/c as of now, the evidence supports my claim. You have posted nothing that even remotely says that T10/MS has considered a PC release. You just assume so, but you won't post a credible reason for such outlook.
 
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Given the sheer scope and content of these games I expect a glitch TBH.

Couldn't give a rats arse I'm buying anyhow.
 
Until the game actually releases, we do not know anything about what glitches there are. Do not post your assumptions as fact.

LOL, ok whatever. As you go around telling people Forza will never be on PC maybe you should remember your statement. Because unless you're sitting on the board of MS or T10, you have no clue what their future business plans might or might not be.

I'll put it this way, they're 3 for 3 with the same repeat glitches release after release. Good money says they will be 4 for 4 after FM4 releases. They are batting a thousand. That's about as close to fact as anyone can ever get IMO.
 
LOL, ok whatever. As you go around telling people Forza will never be on PC maybe you should remember your statement. Because unless you're sitting on the board of MS or T10, you have no clue what their future business plans might or might not be.
The difference is I'm right, & even you know it. What you have is only assumption based on previous games, yet you posted it as fact. Are you on the development team at T10? No? Looks like you have no clue either.

I'll put it this way, they're 3 for 3 with the same repeat glitches release after release. Good money says they will be 4 for 4 after FM4 releases. They are batting a thousand. That's about as close to fact as anyone can ever get IMO.
Question: Since every single one of your posts seems to be nothing but negativity, why are you even in this thread....
 
Given the sheer scope and content of these games I expect a glitch TBH.

Couldn't give a rats arse I'm buying anyhow.

Expect them? Yes. Accept them? NO. Especially with the repeat glitches. The same glitches should never show up game after game after game. That's some junk you expect from EA. Not a supposed AAA first party dev like T10.
 
Question: Since every single one of your posts seems to be nothing but negativity, why are you even in this thread....

I don't know. Why is it that just because you're positive you have any reason, cause or right to question me and why I'm in this thread?
 
I don't know. Why is it that just because you're positive you have any reason, cause or right to question me and why I'm in this thread?
Because it's an apparent trait within TRC to do nothing but bitch about Forza on the same 3 issues over & over. :rolleyes:
 
The difference is I'm right

Ok, you're one of those people. Oh well, last thing I want is a petty fight with a internet troll today so I'm done. Take my posts for what they are. Doubt their validity if you choose. I have reported nothing but the truth of the release of the first 3 games. And as they say, if you don't learn from history, you're doomed to repeat it. Have fun repeating.
 
Perfect games in any genre just don't exists... You will always find something that is not up to your expectations.

Forza, GT, Dirt, Shift, they all have a lot of strenghts and a few weaknesses... but we all play them because in the end we think the balance between good and bad is more than acceptable.

Winers will wine, these forums are their playground, and they have the right to do so. :ouch:
 
Forza - console
Forza 2 - console
Forza 3 - console
Forza 4 - ?

It's obvious what platform FM4 will be on. Forza will never be on the pc and anyone who thinks it will is an idiot. T10 has never even considered porting one of their forza games onto the pc. Forza has and always will be a xbox exclusive franchise.
 
I also think like most guys here, Forza is the console mover for Xbox and one of their top exclusive games. However, since this guy insists so much on the possible PC release, I just took a look at the disclosed cover for Forza 4 looking for something.

There is no yellow/grey square with the legend "Only on Xbox".

Could we all except this guy be wrong? I'm ambivalent, to my own surprise. :odd:
 
I also think like most guys here, Forza is the console mover for Xbox and one of their top exclusive games. However, since this guy insists so much on the possible PC release, I just took a look at the disclosed cover for Forza 4 looking for something.

There is no yellow/grey square with the legend "Only on Xbox".

Could we all except this guy be wrong? I'm ambivalent, to my own surprise. :odd:

I wouldn't put much faith in that.

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