FM4 Autumn Launch plus Boxart,content reveal..

[McLaren]

Ok, you're one of those people. Oh well, last thing I want is a petty fight with a internet troll today so I'm done. Take my posts for what they are. Doubt their validity if you choose. I have reported nothing but the truth of the release of the first 3 games. And as they say, if you don't learn from history, you're doomed to repeat it. Have fun repeating.

Lol, fine with me. Be sure to let your other TRC guys know so we don't have to read their negativity either.

 

[Chad Esposito]

I wouldn't put much faith in that.

Thank you mate, things just went back to normal. Bloody PC gossip...

 

[Eric.]

Why do we care that there may be a money glitch when it always gets patched?

I never even knew there was a "stock tranny glitch" in FM3.


The same logic that these same bugs will carry over also supports that it will only be on 360. Double standards much?

 

[Scaff]

Those of you who seem to be bent on turning another FM thread into a flame-fest need to be reminded that posts of that nature are not permitted here at GT Planet.

The next person who fails to realise that you can post without attacking the other party will be taking a two day holiday from GT Planet.


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[Joel]

If I had a 360, I'd have preordered already.

 

[I'm Motarded]

If I had a 360, I'd have preordered already.

Perfect! You can place your pre-order while paying at the counter for your new Xbox 360 Nope, no need to thank me lol

 

[VXR]

I'm hoping for a console with LCE bundle as I'm running out of HD space on my 20gb Premium. A custom painted 250gb would be perfect.

 

[SuperShouden]

I am interested to see how the actual racing looks. Not as good as the photomode, of course, but still...looking forward to seeing what T10 shows us at E3

 

[TRC GeorgiaDawg]

I see you are that kind of people too buddy... This is kinda like: ''Do not doubt me, I am the truth...'' LOL

Ok, well, doubt it if you must. I do apologize. I'm sorry that there are people out there so intolerant of opinions that don't match theirs that they have to go on the attack. I'm sorry that GTP evidently does not encourage truthful discussion, and appears to only want blind praise or else.

Again, everything I posted is fact. It happened. If you choose to look the other way, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

 

[tfujiwara]

Is it possible that they will include a night/dark enviroment track where we will be able to see the cars with the lights on? I really want to see cars with the headlights on like the RX7, and Toyota AE86.

 

[dzidza]

Why do we care that there may be a money glitch when it always gets patched?

I never even knew there was a "stock tranny glitch" in FM3.


The same logic that these same bugs will carry over also supports that it will only be on 360. Double standards much?

so true. I never used and never cared for those glitches. If i did, they would ruin the game. I have made enough money to buy cars that i wanted to drive throuht game progression

 

[t.o.]

Is it possible that they will include a night/dark enviroment track where we will be able to see the cars with the lights on? I really want to see cars with the headlights on like the RX7, and Toyota AE86.

We can only hope. It's been suggested that we'll have that option but nothing is certain but a few less than subtle subliminal messages in a few FM4 videos that people are clutching at straws over. If it does come I just hope it isn't one of these "only on a few tracks" kinda thing. Would hope that all the tracks have the option.

so true. I never used and never cared for those glitches. If i did, they would ruin the game. I have made enough money to buy cars that i wanted to drive throuht game progression

Pretty much. I can be wasting precious racing time trying to cheat or I could be... racing. lol.

 

[Scaff]

I'm sorry that GTP evidently does not encourage truthful discussion, and appears to only want blind praise or else.

Again, everything I posted is fact. It happened. If you choose to look the other way, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

If we simply wanted a GT site we would close all discussion of other titles and ban members that refuse to follow that. However nothing of that nature happens, something that is quite clearly re-enforced by clicking on the following:

www.forzaplanet.net

Yes the act of a site that only allows Sony and PD praise that.


What we do not want is every single FM thread being dragged off topic with endless GT vs FM discussion and members insulting each other. Areas that are covered by the AUP and the staff therefore have the mandate to act upon.

Keep the thread on topic and post with respect to other members and you will find that the staff have no need to intervene. Drag them constantly off topic and the staff have little choice but to act.

You want a discussion about GT vs FM and all that it entails then in one of the existing threads on it and discuss it in that (subject of course to the AUP).



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[Saidur_Ali]

Until the game actually releases, we do not know anything about what glitches there are. Do not post your assumptions as fact.

My post is not opinion. It is fact. Want a source? Here it is again.


http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/077/077615.html

Post proof that says this is wrong, that this is assumption. You must have a valid reason for why you think it may be released on the PC other than what other games do. So post it, or stop with this "slim chance" nonsense.

I have posted my proof. Post yours, b/c as of now, the evidence supports my claim. You have posted nothing that even remotely says that T10/MS has considered a PC release. You just assume so, but you won't post a credible reason for such outlook.

When did a gaming website become more factual than the actual spokespeople of a company? If that is proof, then you might have also thought the different release dates gaming websites and shops posted on the internet for GT5 or any other game were also factually correct even with no official announcement from the actual game company.

Even what you quoted as your “proof", the release date says Q3 2010; guess what we are long past that now. Is that factual proof for a release window for the game too? It contradicts with the Fall 2011 they mentioned Microsoft confirming too which was also in the same small quote and you expect me to take a game websites assumptions as face value in that it is exclusive to 360. That is not going to happen.

There have only been two official news articles on the official website which most gaming websites have reported from and also made their own assumptions too. Here they are:

Forza Motorsport 4 Announced!
Forza Motorsport 4 Pre-Order

There have been a couple of trailers I think, as well some official comments on some websites but as far as I’m aware no comment saying it is exclusive to Xbox 360. You can see in the articles above, not one word in it says it is exclusive to Xbox 360.

I assume it is a possibility yes as far as I’m concerned, hence why I said there is a chance of it happening but I’m not saying it as a fact it is coming out on PC like you are saying it is exclusive for Xbox 360 as a fact. The only reasonable other Microsoft platform out for Forza is PC so I'm guessing that is only other platform they could be considering but I don't work for them so I won't say it as a fact. I think it is a credible outlook on things personally but that is my opinion which you can disagree on.

The difference is I'm right, & even you know it. What you have is only assumption based on previous games, yet you posted it as fact. Are you on the development team at T10? No? Looks like you have no clue either.

Hypocrisy much?

 

[t.o.]

I assume it is a possibility yes as far as I’m concerned, hence why I said there is a chance of it happening but I’m not saying it as a fact it is coming out on PC like you are saying it is exclusive for Xbox 360 as a fact. The only reasonable other Microsoft platform out for Forza is PC so I'm guessing that is only other platform they could be considering but I don't work for them so I won't say it as a fact. I think it is a credible outlook on things personally but that is my opinion which you can disagree on.


Hypocrisy much?

But herein lies the problem, there's nothing "credible" about that outlook. What would make this year special than any other year when they could have ported it to the PC? When the FM3 first ramblings hit the net they didn't specifically say it was 360 exclusive right away either. I think they knew the fanbase of the
You know what guy, sure, believe what you want to believe.

 

[jabofu]

So does anyone know if other sites will throw out Forza 4 infos or will we see everything at the e3 microsoft conference and after it?

The 5 screens looked really good, but i want to see gameplay!

 

[Terronium-12]

But herein lies the problem, there's nothing "credible" about that outlook. What would make this year special than any other year when they could have ported it to the PC? When the FM3 first ramblings hit the net they didn't specifically say it was 360 exclusive right away either. I think they knew the fanbase of the
You know what guy, sure, believe what you want to believe.

Now you see why I gave up?

It's like talking to a brick wall; what's the point?

 

[II-zOoLoGy-II]

Has the Forza 3 to Forza 4 profile import function been brought up yet? If not... Good news. You will have the ability to import your credits, cars, and vinyls into Forza 4 from Forza 3!

 

[McLaren]

When did a gaming website become more factual than the actual spokespeople of a company? If that is proof, then you might have also thought the different release dates gaming websites and shops posted on the internet for GT5 or any other game were also factually correct even with no official announcement from the actual game company.

The sad thing is that a gaming website is more proof than your "hunch".

Now, unless you can actually post what led you to such assumption, or anything that supports your idea that it will be released on the PC as well, you have nothing to question my sources, because as of right now, I'm the only one actually posting them.

You are so confident that you are correct with your assumption (you wouldn't be constantly replying to us saying we're wrong), yet you post nothing to back it up besides what some other developer did.
Everything points to this game being a Xbox-360 only release & the sole reason is because it will move consoles.

Also going back for a second;

You should also know that Kinect is also getting PC support and maybe in E3 they will announce it too. The PC platform can help Microsoft move Kinects too.

This is interesting because as far as I've read, it is not for commercial use & will be a SDK. I have seen nothing that actually says the Kinnect software will be used in the same way it works with the Xbox 360.

Has the Forza 3 to Forza 4 profile import function been brought up yet? If not... Good news. You will have the ability to import your credits, cars, and vinyls into Forza 4 from Forza 3!

It has, & most people are getting the assumption that your entire profile will be imported. I find that hard to believe as there will be no point in playing through the whole game. The info released with this also says "based upon", which leads me to the belief that FM4 will reward you only so far for how you played through FM3, not, "Here's everything from FM3 now." Just my view on it.

 

[arora]

Kinecthacks is a pretty cool website I've been watching for sometime, scroll down this page a bit and you will see some info on SDK for kinect. Check out all the stuff people have been doing with it already 👍

http://kinecthacks.net/?s=microsoft&submit.x=0&submit.y=0

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Now you see why I gave up?
It's like talking to a brick wall; what's the point?

If you have a valid point to make, that is not just opinion as fact or your opinion is the only one allowed then I will listen to what you have to say and take it on board.

The sad thing is that a gaming website is more proof than your "hunch".
Now, unless you can actually post what led you to such assumption, or anything that supports your idea that it will be released on the PC as well, you have nothing to question my sources, because as of right now, I'm the only one actually posting them.

You are so confident that you are correct with your assumption (you wouldn't be constantly replying to us saying we're wrong), yet you post nothing to back it up besides what some other developer did.
Everything points to this game being a Xbox-360 only release & the sole reason is because it will move consoles.

Also going back for a second;

This is interesting because as far as I've read, it is not for commercial use & will be a SDK. I have seen nothing that actually says the Kinnect software will be used in the same way it works with the Xbox 360.

If you like to think gaming websites assumptions are “more proof”, then you are entitled to that opinion. Just don’t believe everything they say, as if you did believe your proof at face value, you might be thinking why Forza 4 has not launched yet.

I have already posted what led to my assumption. If I wanted to I could create a website and link that as my source or even link to my post and say it is a source as it is just as credible at the moment due to both your proof and my hunch are not officially confirmed by Microsoft or Turn 10 yet as being factually correct.

All I’m saying is it is wrong for you to state your opinions as fact and then post a website assumption that is the same as your opinion. That is the main reason I’m actually bothering, the principle of convincing people who state opinion as fact are wrong to do so. By the way I’m not confident with my hunch / assumption being correct as I’ve said it has a slim chance of it happening to be true, but feel free to assume I think my assumption is correct. I only mentioned that there might be a potential surprise in store at E3 and that PC version could be one as Microsoft or Turn 10 have not closed the door on it being on a different platform by not using the words exclusive on any official article or statement.

I have posted about the word “exclusive” not being used on any official material (The people who make / publish the game), which goes against your “proof” of it being already confirmed as fact that it is an Xbox 360 exclusive..

You say everything points to it being on Xbox 360, but why are you so quick to disprove a glitch being in the game like TRC GeorgiaDawg has said. You could say everything points to some glitch like that being in the game. You said yourself “Until the game actually releases, we do not know anything about what glitches there are. Do not post your assumptions as fact.” yet you can’t find one official Microsoft / Turn 10 source that confirms your Xbox 360 exclusive argument and have to be a hypocrite because in your head you think that Forza 4 is factually correct an Xbox 360 exclusive. You also arrive at your point assuming it entirely on past Forza games being so as the reason and then cherry picking a gaming website assumptions and then saying they are factual proof.

According to some websites, Microsoft has plans to release a commercial SDK but has not given a date on when it will be doing so. I think this is logical thing for us to assume though as some software developers who make commercial products must want to implement Kinect for various reasons, for example games and user interfaces of applications. It will be strange for Microsoft not to want to promote Kinect commercially on PC. It is not officially out yet so they could easily not release one but I think it is highly unlikely for them not to release it.

Microsoft Announces Release of Kinect SDK–Hackers, Academics Rejoice
The Full Power of Microsoft Kinect Is About to Be Unleashed With an SDK for All

 

[McLaren]

Just going to go ahead & delete what I typed because common knowledge obviously isn't something getting communicated well, here. So, I'll just post the Facebook that is linked to by the official website.

http://www.facebook.com/forzamotorsport?sk=info

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About
Forza Motorsport 4 - Fall 2011

Company Overview
Turn 10 Studios is a video game studio created internally by Microsoft Game Studios. We are the developers of the Forza Motorsport franchise available exclusively on the Xbox 360.

Products
Forza Motorsport 1 - Xbox
Released: May 3, 2005

Forza Motorsport 2 - Xbox 360
Released: May 29, 2007

Forza Motorsport 3 - Xbox 360
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Forza Motorsport 4 - Xbox 360
Fall 2011
Website
http://www.forzamotorsport.net

Want to continue telling me that what I posted isn't fact like I said? Or is T10's own FB not a source?

 

[Paulie]

My friend just got his Fanatec which will make his remaining FM3 days that much better and prepared for FM4.

 

[Spagetti69]

My friend just got his Fanatec which will make his remaining FM3 days that much better and prepared for FM4.

If it lasts.

Ordered mine in January and still might not get to play F4

On topic.
Looks fantastic.

 

[FyreandIce]

Rims looks like they don't belong in the pictures...

The better it looks, the more obvious the flaws.

 

[Spagetti69]

The better it looks, the more obvious the flaws.

The worse it looks, the less obvious the flaws........

I don't understand that logic.

 

[FyreandIce]

The worse it looks, the less obvious the flaws........

I don't understand that logic.

When was that said?

It's not logic that can be reversed.

 

[Spagetti69]

I get what you mean.

It looks great but flaws show up more.
I had a brain fart.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Rims looks like they don't belong in the pictures...

The better it looks, the more obvious the flaws.

Actually the wheels in Forza 3 look VERY good. The problem is that the wheels in the Forza 4 pics actually seem like they have been downgraded. Now sure why the Forza 4 wheel pics dont look as good.

Forza 3 wheel pic I took. (sorry for large image)

 

[FyreandIce]

It's not that they're downgraded from FM3. In FM3 the wheels sat well with the rest of the visuals. They don't in these bullshots.

They haven't received the same visual upgrade.