They have to really good salami, I would take that W.Kind of funny since Latifi's parents own Saputo Dairies and Sofina Foods (both huge conglomerates here in Canada). He could literally give them for free milk and salami for life in return. So people taking it seriously must believe he's a real penny pincher.
Maybe it's just me but reading FIA's justification, to me it reads," Masi can control the deployment of the safety car and play around with the regulations to influence the end result of a race" because that's exactly what happened here regardless of how they position it. I'm on the camp that if they didn't want the biggest race of the season to finish under the safety car, they should have red flagged the race and give us a restart. All of this nonsense could have been avoided!Nobody wanted to see finish behind safety car. So Race Director decided and it looks like he have the right to do so.
Stewards dismiss Mercedes’ Abu Dhabi Grand Prix protests, as team lodge intention to appeal | Formula 1®
The FIA has dismissed Mercedes protest over events at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, which saw Max Verstappen crowned drivers' champion for the first time after a late Safety Car was called.www.formula1.com
"A document released by the FIA on Sunday night read: "Article 15.3 allows the Race Director to control the use of the safety car, which in our determination includes its deployment and withdrawal.
"Although Article 48.12 may not have been applied fully, in relation to the safety car returning to the pits at the end of the following lap, Article 48.13 overrides that and once the message 'Safety Car in this lap' has been displayed, it is mandatory to withdraw the safety car at the end of that lap.
"That notwithstanding Mercedes’ request that the Stewards remediate the matter by amending the classification to reflect the positions at the end of the penultimate lap, this is a step that the Stewards believe is effectively shortening the race retrospectively, and hence not appropriate.
"Accordingly, the Protest is dismissed.""
I'm sure plenty of people did. I personally wouldn't have minded, it wouldn't have changed anything from before the SC, race was over. It's not like VER was on the brink of overtaking and got stopped by the SC and there would have been some huge miscarriage of justice if the positions when LAT hit the wall were taken as final.
You have yet to explain why Max deserved it being in second place, and if the regulations were followed, finishing in second place behind Lewis... Lewis was in position to win, being on equal points. You can't just scrap Lewis' accomplishments the prior 21 races either which you appear to be doing.
I have explained it a couple times, in fact if you go to my pre-race post I also detail there why I felt Max deserved to be WDC before the race weekend even started. Who I feel deserved to win the title is a different question to the one being posed regarding the outcome of the race and how we got there. They're different questions. Also, I'm not scrapping Lewis' accomplishments in the 21 races prior at all. Lets get some facts in terms of how I'm viewing this whole season shall we;
Who says the race had to end safety car? Can you say with certainty that if they don't clear the lapped cars and restart with them there that Lewis wins? It was ending under greens regardless, which teams have unanimously agreed to do so whenever physically possible.
Can we not? You're saying in a 2 way title fight we can't compare the drivers seasons to decide for ourselves who we think is deserving or worthy? The inference for the other drivers is simply that they weren't in the title fight at the final round..thereby their statistics aren't relevant to this discussion. Statistically, Max Verstappen is the most deserving of the 2 for the championship.
I mean, of all the things that might have helped Verstappen to the title, this is the most not that.
That statement is the key. It comes down to a lot more than that, otherwise we could just simulate the season on a computer.
Two of those wins for Max were gifts from the FIA. Yesterday of course. And Spa, which was not a race no matter how much they want us to believe it was.
All fair points, again, the lacking of consistent stewarding is the biggest issue with this season. That and apparently we don't like watching racing anymore. Nonetheless, Saudi Arabia isn't as clear cut as all that,
Interesting thing about Spa, regardless of classification, is if it didn't count, and I agree, it absolutely should not have counted, it wouldn't have altered the championship outcome in any way. Even in race wins he would have had 1 extra anyway and the points difference was inconsequential. Biggest loser would have been Russel and Williams.
It was a 2.4G braking effort in the middle of the track while moving slightly left. Even though F1 cars can do considerably more than that, it's a pretty clear cut stamp on the brakes.
It was considered as one for Magnussen in Canada in 2017. Simply put, Verstappen was ahead of Hamilton, however briefly. That got Magnussen a 5s penalty and two points. This is the only overtake of the safety car in the entire hybrid era not to attract a time penalty.
Indeed, and the drivers and teams can only race to what they believe to be the ruleset at the time (or what they perceive it to be).
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I just see the Jeddah one slightly differently, Hamilton has a lot of time to pass Verstappen and doesn't, he's off the racing line and Hamilton follows him, yes the penalty was deserved but question marks over why Hamilton didn't just pass him.It was a 2.4G braking effort in the middle of the track while moving slightly left. Even though F1 cars can do considerably more than that, it's a pretty clear cut stamp on the brakes.
It was considered as one for Magnussen in Canada in 2017. Simply put, Verstappen was ahead of Hamilton, however briefly. That got Magnussen a 5s penalty and two points. This is the only overtake of the safety car in the entire hybrid era not to attract a time penalty.
Indeed, and the drivers and teams can only race to what they believe to be the ruleset at the time (or what they perceive it to be).
That's why Verstappen shouldn't be penalised by having the championship taken off him - with the single exception of if there is any proven collusion between Red Bull and officials, which has no merit at this moment in time (much though I'd love Horner to be Briatoried
