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What was the reason to even start doing sprint races? Ugh, I really don’t like them.
Money, obviously. They wanted some proper action on a Friday to get more people through the doors.
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Stewards have been busy.
Seven drivers/six teams warned over radio messages sent during the formation lap (the only precedent I can find for punishments for this were two ten-second penalties - one for each driver - when Haas did it in Hungary 2020), Perez fined €300 for speeding in the pitlane, Vettel fined €25,000 (suspended) for stomping out of the Friday briefing during a "heated" discussion about how crap the stewards are.
Seven drivers/six teams warned over radio messages sent during the formation lap (the only precedent I can find for punishments for this were two ten-second penalties - one for each driver - when Haas did it in Hungary 2020), Perez fined €300 for speeding in the pitlane, Vettel fined €25,000 (suspended) for stomping out of the Friday briefing during a "heated" discussion about how crap the stewards are.
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The chief complaint before the regulation change was one guy winning everything. Well, now they’ve been changed and one guy is winning everything.
F1’s fundamental problem is that they can’t seem to legislate around one team nailing the new rules and leaving everyone else to play catch up until the outcry forces another change.
F1’s fundamental problem is that they can’t seem to legislate around one team nailing the new rules and leaving everyone else to play catch up until the outcry forces another change.
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Well, I don’t see how you can draw a comparison between football/tennis and motor racing. A football field or tennis court never had anything beyond the white line. By that argument, why even bother putting in a kerb beyond the white line at all? They might as well remove it, then every driver will try to keep all 4 wheels within the white line. Heck, why even bother drawing the white line? The edge of the pavement is the natural track limit anyway. If they go to the trouble of putting in a nice wide kerb, why limit how the driver can use it?
In the old days, track limit was hardly discussed. I don’t understand why nowadays it’s such a big deal. It’s not like every driver is given a different track limit. It’s the same for everyone, so I’m not sure why there’s a need to even police or discuss it.
This is what K-Mag said about the track limits at Red Bull Ring this weekend, and I agree with him (i.e., track limits should be natural, not artificial):
"It is pretty annoying because it is never great when the cars can naturally run wider than you are allowed to. It is nice when lap time is naturally lost when you go over track limits because that is much more real. The last corner, you have this big kerb. If you go on that, you lose time so that could easily be the natural limit, but this is how the FIA has chosen to go ahead."
Because he did.
Why does it matter what is beyond it? Nobody goes beyond the limit in street circuits because they hit a wall. Kerbs are there for drivers to use but they're not part of the track. They exist so that if drivers make a mistake they're not straight into the dirt or gravel. They are also there as a visual aid to better see the edge of the track, because the white lines are not always easily visible.
Tarmac run offs are now also very common compared to the past, which is why it's more common to be required to monitor the limits. There isn't an edge of the road in many corners, that's why the white line is needed to denote the track boundary.
The rules are already the same for everyone, and very clear. The track is defined, you've got to drive round it. What you and Magnussen are asking for is how it was the last few years, different rules for different corners, which is confusing for viewers. Or a free for all, where they can do whatever they want. No thanks.
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So the answer to someone pointing out that they have been stewarding worse than ghe 3 stooges is to fine them??
And investigate teams for telling their drivers the procedure has changed to ensure things are safe?
What Dollar Store Discount bin misprint list of priorities are these guys reading from?
Otherwise, sprints are a bit meh. There was some solid racing in there, but not worth the effort and hype F1 is trying to use to boost ticket sales.
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No prizes for guessing which group of fans.
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I've been on holiday lots, sometimes to beaches and sometimes with beer - and sometimes both.
To date it's not made me racist, homophobic, sexually harass women and girls (including not just female spectators but female staff):
And this seems to be centred around one particular area of the Red Bull Ring...
