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Forza 4 VS GT5 (read the first post before you contribute)
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Whereas in real-life it's a hair-raising moment, with Forza's zero consequences, having the car go beyond the limit and spin out on you is just so satisfying.
The moment where the car goes light and you just know you have to catch it or you're toast. That this happened in a Ford Ka the first time I paid attention to it impressed me, as it makes you feel like you're in a short-wheelbase, tall car.
The moment where the car goes light and you just know you have to catch it or you're toast. That this happened in a Ford Ka the first time I paid attention to it impressed me, as it makes you feel like you're in a short-wheelbase, tall car.
Check my previous post...it says i bought the game as a xmas present for my girlfriends son...we played the game together during xmas weekend...i drove curren gen pontiac gto, cutlass 442, and a few other muscle cars...we played splitscreen as well...i have the option to play it whenever im there which is pretty much everyday...he loves the game...he also loves gt5 but he owns xbox while i have a ps3+360...his mom owns a ps3 which i bought for her last xmas...my fanatec rig stays at my house so we only had a day of play with gt2 compared to few days with the pad...to me the retail performed pretty close to he demo minus counter steer glitch
My posts have all been true self opinions based off my experience whether thorough or too short in others minds...i said previously that its a feeling i cant explain on why i think gt5 feels more real to me...if i got that feeling from forza i would say it because i entered the sim racing from ground zero never owning games in either respected series...ioriginally wanted forza before checking out what gt5 had to offer...i already heard about the years worth of complaints about gt5 before i decided to take a chance on it...im not a professional driver so if my views clash with the thoughts of pros than im sorry and just take my opinion for what it is...just some guy who loves driving and just wants to recreate that love through a videogame...cars ive owned and tinkered with 1967 mustang fastback, 1985 rx7 gsl-se, 1990 rx7, 2000 S2000 (my 1st brand new car), 1990 acura legend cp, 07 dodge charger daytona(2nd brand new car), 92 civic...
My posts have all been true self opinions based off my experience whether thorough or too short in others minds...i said previously that its a feeling i cant explain on why i think gt5 feels more real to me...if i got that feeling from forza i would say it because i entered the sim racing from ground zero never owning games in either respected series...ioriginally wanted forza before checking out what gt5 had to offer...i already heard about the years worth of complaints about gt5 before i decided to take a chance on it...im not a professional driver so if my views clash with the thoughts of pros than im sorry and just take my opinion for what it is...just some guy who loves driving and just wants to recreate that love through a videogame...cars ive owned and tinkered with 1967 mustang fastback, 1985 rx7 gsl-se, 1990 rx7, 2000 S2000 (my 1st brand new car), 1990 acura legend cp, 07 dodge charger daytona(2nd brand new car), 92 civic...
Well do yourself a favor, take your fanatic rig over to the gfs place, Grab a Kinect, set up head tracking and make sure your on the latest patch and sim steering, add some people from this forum and play fm4 for a good 7-8 days *competatively* utilising rivals mode and the full range of community based gameplay. Then come back to us and let us know which one feels more real....FM4 + fanatec on 900 deg + head tracking just cannot be beat by ANYTHING else on a console ATM. To be honest it would be a stretch to say anything short of Iracing tops it. And since the remapping of the 900 deg steering, even thats a close call in feel.
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^ Nice.
Wearing my GT underpants again, I must say GT has a much better game case.
A smaller volumetric approach allows for more space in my bookcase.
Makes a great coaster too.
Beat that Forza LE which takes up two traditional spaces.
Wearing my GT underpants again, I must say GT has a much better game case.
A smaller volumetric approach allows for more space in my bookcase.
Makes a great coaster too.
Beat that Forza LE which takes up two traditional spaces.
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GT5 drives like GT legends, to me. The suspension physics is there, the basics are there but the way the tire reacts is unnatural and consequently the setups are unnatural, your driving style become unnatural, you will get use to it but once you try another sim again you realize you has just been adapting.
Comparing GT to PC sim is actually quite a sensible comparison, because up until recently most PC sims does not do street tyres correctly, while most of them do slicks reasonably well. On Rfactor the best street tire experience you can find is with the Supra mod, and that feels very close to forza, with HistoriX coming second, which also has that linear and elastic feel you don't find in GT.
Driving in Forza even just for the first 30 mins reminds me of driving LFS at the first time, the minute feedback and road detail are a bit feint and it can feel a bit dead in some cars, but once you properly push it the balance it so natural, the different layout, wheel base, track width of the cars all translate into believable handling traits. You can tell which car is under-sprung, which needs more diff lock right off the bet, I owned GT5 since launch and played rigorously but the sense of feel isn't as vivid.
In fact I contribute most of the feel in GT5 to the more detailed road surface, there's just more bumps and humps to upset the car and make the suspension work, if Forza has Iracing level of tracks it will be phenominal.
compare LE to LE, where'd you put the Bible booklet? it end up eating the same space.
Base Forza4 is just like every other MS game in size.
Comparing GT to PC sim is actually quite a sensible comparison, because up until recently most PC sims does not do street tyres correctly, while most of them do slicks reasonably well. On Rfactor the best street tire experience you can find is with the Supra mod, and that feels very close to forza, with HistoriX coming second, which also has that linear and elastic feel you don't find in GT.
Driving in Forza even just for the first 30 mins reminds me of driving LFS at the first time, the minute feedback and road detail are a bit feint and it can feel a bit dead in some cars, but once you properly push it the balance it so natural, the different layout, wheel base, track width of the cars all translate into believable handling traits. You can tell which car is under-sprung, which needs more diff lock right off the bet, I owned GT5 since launch and played rigorously but the sense of feel isn't as vivid.
In fact I contribute most of the feel in GT5 to the more detailed road surface, there's just more bumps and humps to upset the car and make the suspension work, if Forza has Iracing level of tracks it will be phenominal.
compare LE to LE, where'd you put the Bible booklet? it end up eating the same space.
Base Forza4 is just like every other MS game in size.
Thats probably true for some. I have Kinect at her house since we play Kinect Disneyland but i heard from numerous places such as insideracing that kinect headtracking didn't work...you would be the first to have anything promising to say about it so i will give it a try...i'm pretty sure the PS Eye headtracking would suck but i should probable try that also since my Eye hasn't been used other than for PS Move.
Here's my opinion and one that deeply weighs how I feel about GT5. 73" 3D DLP TV, Fanatec GT2, CSR Shifter and Clubsport Pedals with a 2011 3D-ready Yamaha 7.1 surround system playing GT5 in 3D is the most addicting videogame experience i've had ever. Still looking at getting a buttkicker The only thing that would maybe top that is 3 or 5 screen setup.
I've used this same setup for Forza also (demo and retail)...and aside from the missing 3D they are both great experiences. GT5 in 3D is just upper echelon gaming...its a feeling you can't describe until you play it for yourself. Even with multi-screen use i would probably miss the added depth which truly helps me judge turns way better than in 2D...no ghostng no crosstalk whatsoever just pure gaming bliss. I can't go back to 2D 60fps...i tried but i just can't...its that good and the 3D's even better after the last update
I kind of know what your saying, Though I feel you are misrepresnting your experience in the hope that *most* here have not experienced GT5 3D so have no grounds to agree or disagree with your comment. I ran out and purchased a 46" 3D tv just for gt5. Thankfully it upscales 2D to 3D and I find playing fm4 in upscaled 3D more enjoyable than GT5 in native 3D as I dont get monsterous tearing, cross talk and massive frame rate drops.The crosstalk on GT5 is HORRENDOUS until you start playing with 3d settings and pulling it back to the point that there is hardly any depth. I found in 3D that GT5 spends MOST of its time under 24fps with screen tearing anywhere. On the resolution front GT5 drops to 720p in 3D so that puts it on par with fm4 to start with. From there factor in the rock solid 60fps and lack of tearing in fm4, and well I know which one sounds better on paper, and performs better. Although you may need to spend some time configuring the 3d uspcaling options to get it to look just right. Once you do though, its a better experience.
Ill personally take 60fps, No tearing, Considerably less cross talk and upscaled 3d, WITH head tracking over GT5's implementation and limitations (I still scratch my head and wonder why GT5 wont let you use head tracking in anything but arcade mode. But then you could only use it on 20% of the cars anyway even if you could use it outside of arcade mode.)
When you set up the kinect and head tracking, Make sure you take the time to go into the head tracking tuning, Make sure you are correctly in the field of view the kinect asks for, Be sure to tune the background clipping, and both lean and yaw sensitivity. Sit as close as possible to your screen as the kinect will let you, and you will find the head tracking an incredibly natural and enjoyable experience. When combined with the fanatec and latest patch w/ sim steering an 900 deg....It is the most immersive experience I have encountered yet.
I agree heavy with this. I feel the smallest bumps in the road in GT5 whereas in Forza i don't really get that. This has got to be a big factor in giving you the real life feeling. Also post patch I feel like when I drive on grass or sand the car reacts more realistically on GT5. Before it felt a little off. Forza feels about the same when it comes to sand and grass. I'll have to test this out more.
No not all...i'm late to the party there are tons of people who have been enjoying 3D since launch and I just got my TV in october. I've also made sure to get the best 3D TV for the money and none do it better than DLP which is using similar tech to IMAX. Also theres a good amount of people who have had major issues with GT5 in 3D. Before the patch i got a miniscule amount of ghosting and thats only in cockpit view. Also I experienced very little to almost no screen tearing and even more consistent than 2D-mode framerate (30fps) while playing in 3D. Now after the last major patch I get ZERO ghosting ZERO crosstalk and ZERO tearing all with a solid framerate. I dont know what PD did and i don't think anyone was expecting them to mess with the 3D but everyone who plays it now is experiencing substantial improvements. Even for some who had very bad experiences before. But still if you have a crap 3D tv there's nothing a patch can do to fix that. Also with a 60" and higher tv set you get to experience real life size windshield in your living room. No attaching a 24"-50" to your racing rig. The cars that show up in your peripheral are closer to actual size. So while your experience as well as many others have been bad with GT5's 3D there are just as many who have had it good in the past and even better now.
^i have a little experience with 2D to 3D upscaling. I bought my parents the panasonic blu-ray 2D to 3D player for xmas. Its impressive how well it works for many 2D movies though its no where as good as movies shot in 3D. Avatar non-3D looks great upscaled but it can never compare to the 3D version.
Same with games i'm sure but I've never tried. My tv doesn't do 3D upscaling but very curious to see how good forza looks in 3D. Though if you had a bad experience with GT5's 3D than maybe your comparison to Forza 4's upscaled 3D may be off-base. Get GT5 running as it should in 3D first than compare. I wouldn't want to judge 2 books against each other when one may have a good chunk of the pages removed.
Same with games i'm sure but I've never tried. My tv doesn't do 3D upscaling but very curious to see how good forza looks in 3D. Though if you had a bad experience with GT5's 3D than maybe your comparison to Forza 4's upscaled 3D may be off-base. Get GT5 running as it should in 3D first than compare. I wouldn't want to judge 2 books against each other when one may have a good chunk of the pages removed.
Thats a fair point. As said though, I made over $5000 worth of investment into GT5 before it was released in preperation for it. You can be sure I have given it every chance under every set of circumstances, played and tweaked to get the best out of it. It is possible that my tv just doesnt work aswell with gt5 in 3d as yours does. But that said, The depth I experience in fm4 upscaled is natural and very immersive. Although some of the menus do look funny in upscaled 3d. Occasionally a tail light might appear to me a few ft closer than the rest of the car or such. But be rest assured thats only on stills and menus. In moving gameplay upscaling seems to work very well (atleast with my samsung set) and nothing appears unnatural or out of place.
I wouldnt say my experience with GT5 3D is a bad 3D experience per say. I just felt that all of GT5's existing graphic problems (frame rate drops, tearing ect) were somewhat magnified and amplified when putting that extra load on the ps3 and forcing 3D out of it. Although the cross talk I experienced was odd as I get practically zero cross talk when watching 3D blu rays from my ps3. Next to zero when watching 3D movies from my PC or gaming in 3D from my pc either. But for some reason GT5 seemed to have alot of cross talk and that *SHOULD* be set dependant, not pheripheral or sofwate dependant. That said I tried long and hard and with many different settings, So I feel that I explored and exhausted the best experience GT5 can offer me.
Your analogy about the 2 books is quite interesting though. As most people just play a track or 2 of fm4 then compare it to the full game of GT5. Failing to explore the pages (Chapters even) including fm4's amazing community based gameplay and competative environment, store fronts, auction houses, player partys, car clubs. Essentially comparing 100% of GT5 to about 35% of forza and then saying "forza just doesnt offer an experience as engaging, immersive or addictive". I dont want to come across as being a smart ass, or agressive, I in no way intend my next comment to come across as so. But after saying "I wouldnt want to judge 2 books against each other when one may have a good chunk of pages removed" Is exactly what you have done by comparing your exhaustive GT5 experience to your limited FM4 experience. What you have essentially done is read the intro of FM4, Then put it down and said "Nah GT5 is the better book for sure"
Unfortunately 99% of people that fly the GT5 flag are in exactly the same boat. While 99% of people that have taken the time to completely explore the forza experience will say that it is the better option OR "I play FM4 and GT5 side by side and enjoy both equally". You wont find many that genuinely own FM4 and invest good time in it stating that it is as bad as most of those under the GT5 flag.
I wouldnt say my experience with GT5 3D is a bad 3D experience per say. I just felt that all of GT5's existing graphic problems (frame rate drops, tearing ect) were somewhat magnified and amplified when putting that extra load on the ps3 and forcing 3D out of it. Although the cross talk I experienced was odd as I get practically zero cross talk when watching 3D blu rays from my ps3. Next to zero when watching 3D movies from my PC or gaming in 3D from my pc either. But for some reason GT5 seemed to have alot of cross talk and that *SHOULD* be set dependant, not pheripheral or sofwate dependant. That said I tried long and hard and with many different settings, So I feel that I explored and exhausted the best experience GT5 can offer me.
Your analogy about the 2 books is quite interesting though. As most people just play a track or 2 of fm4 then compare it to the full game of GT5. Failing to explore the pages (Chapters even) including fm4's amazing community based gameplay and competative environment, store fronts, auction houses, player partys, car clubs. Essentially comparing 100% of GT5 to about 35% of forza and then saying "forza just doesnt offer an experience as engaging, immersive or addictive". I dont want to come across as being a smart ass, or agressive, I in no way intend my next comment to come across as so. But after saying "I wouldnt want to judge 2 books against each other when one may have a good chunk of pages removed" Is exactly what you have done by comparing your exhaustive GT5 experience to your limited FM4 experience. What you have essentially done is read the intro of FM4, Then put it down and said "Nah GT5 is the better book for sure"
Unfortunately 99% of people that fly the GT5 flag are in exactly the same boat. While 99% of people that have taken the time to completely explore the forza experience will say that it is the better option OR "I play FM4 and GT5 side by side and enjoy both equally". You wont find many that genuinely own FM4 and invest good time in it stating that it is as bad as most of those under the GT5 flag.
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slightly OT, this thread has been flagged on my browser because it contain stuff from rebelyogi.com, anyone has the same issue? just this thread.
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Don't get me wrong, I don't want to judge you, nor am I saying that the following is true for you, but: Some folks just assume that GT5 has it right and make the game their yard stick. Maybe unconsiously, even. And everything that feels different will be immediately dismissed as less realistic.
As far as I am concerned, I'd agree with Scaff... It's hard to see how a game with these flaws can be considered to feel more realistic. That "special something"? Well, yeah, it's there, but I'd say it has little to do with the game, but more with how people approach it.
Well in reality i have a limited amount of experience with both games compared to almost everyone else on these boards. I've only about 2 months off and on gameplay with GT5. I purposely gave a smidgen of time to GT5 in anticipation to Spec 2.0 and now that the last update came and went I've been spending more time in the past week or 2 with GT5 than I have since October. I'm really just a noobie with both games.
But what I care most about in either game is the driving model. 2nd would be visuals, 3rd car selection, 4th sound, etc. (bells and whistles). Forza wins 3rd and mostly 4th but I'm not pleased completely with either game's sound.
You can get a fair assessment with either game's driving model in less than a day. Even in an hour i think if you try out several types of cars and several types of tracks. GT wins for me where i care most. I can't change how to make Forza feel better to myself. Only Turn 10 is capable of that. And even with those butt ugly standard cars I still feel like the sum of all the little things adds to GT's realism. In motion I can only go by what my subconsious tells me. Kind of like an optical illusion. Maybe PD is good at tricking my mind into making GT seem more realistic even with all the blocky shadows and pixelated trees. I say thats a good thing they are able to fool me becuase i'm pretty anal about things like pixelated trees and people in videogames.
Definitely not me. Maybe my prior experience with Ferrari Challenge could affect my thoughts of Forza because I've never seen or played GT5 before I downloaded the Forza 4 demo. I played Forza 4 for 2 days before I even had a thought in my mind that I may want to look at GT5.
Judging from many of the other posts on here i could be one of the most non-biased person here. Many people here have played GT religiously since the beginning or Forza since xbox1...i have not. I stated that in the first post on this website. I hate fanboys and I like to deal with facts whenever possible. But i try to keep my opinions true to the heart at the very least.
All very fair points. Although my question is, How can one consider a driving model that doesnt even factor in tire air pressures more accurate, or one that will provide the same lateral Gs from a Dodge Viper or a Daihatsu Charade if they are on just the same tire compound to be more accurate? I mean its ultimately when you get into the tuning side of things that you really get to explore that phyisics model in all its glory. Theres just SO much that GT5 ignores or doesnt account for and so much more that just provides unexpect and unrealistic results when you start playing with tunes in GT5 (plus having to write your tune on a piece of paper if you want to share it with a friend
). A quick question. Howmuch time have you spent on FM4 with your fanatec since the december patch that fixed the steering issues? What wheel settings ect are you using? How far indepth have you gone playing with tuning setups to make your car do what you want it to do?
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Hmm. I must say that this thread continues to be.... "interesting" (for lack of a better term). I fear that the GT fanbase has been given a very lousy name, simply because of the outspokenness of the few fanatics that it entails. The official Forza forums have a lot of similar threads berating the "competition" (again for lack of a better term) as GTPlanet does. The fanatics always tend to be the loudest and most outspoken. Hence why they are fanatics. It is horrible though to base such a large audience based on a few. It is like basing the entire Muslim religion, based solely on the Shi'ite and Sunni extremists. Extremely closed minded, and extremely unfair to all of us that do still have common sense, and a sense of self respect. As far as youtube extremists go, I can think of few who reach the level of GeneralMLD, for both sides of the fence. Like I said, don't let the few represent the many.
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(I know their are better sounding cars)
all I can say is Acura TSX fully built, RWD conversion, sitting on BBS 21" with insane camber.
fire spitting machine, not a good racer but fun to goof around in lol
FORZA 4 ftw
edit.......with Mugen rear bumper and side skirts. (stock front)
all I can say is Acura TSX fully built, RWD conversion, sitting on BBS 21" with insane camber.
fire spitting machine, not a good racer but fun to goof around in lol
FORZA 4 ftw
edit.......with Mugen rear bumper and side skirts. (stock front)
All very fair points. Although my question is, How can one consider a driving model that doesnt even factor in tire air pressures more accurate, or one that will provide the same lateral Gs from a Dodge Viper or a Daihatsu Charade if they are on just the same tire compound to be more accurate? I mean its ultimately when you get into the tuning side of things that you really get to explore that phyisics model in all its glory. Theres just SO much that GT5 ignores or doesnt account for and so much more that just provides unexpect and unrealistic results when you start playing with tunes in GT5 (plus having to write your tune on a piece of paper if you want to share it with a friend
i only used to GT2 for 1 day after the countersteer fix. I used sim everything when using the pad and steering wheel pre and post patch. Sadly I've done no tunings in either game. I cannot speak on how much better either game can get when changing settings. Pretty much just grab a stock car and get loose with it. Also I've used several settings on the GT2 for Forza and got one that feels just as responsive as the GT5 settings. (They are very different settings but the end result is about the same).
One thing that really sucks in GT5 is when you've got 20million to spend on cars and it takes forever to buy one. I almost want to hire someone to just go through the motions of buying them. Forza wins here no contest.
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I get what you are saying, and yes both sides do have their 'extremists' but the last time I was over at GTP it felt they were all in one thread lol
No mention of the 'F' word i.e the (or any real) competition from me, but the defensiveness was still there, along with other silly stuff (IMO) like all this 'Soul' talk. I've never seen people talk about a game like it's alive.. until now, and it's still the 1st and last time.
here was my last visit to GTP. I felt I was under attack just for pointing something out. As much as I like talking about racing games I don't think I will be going back. I'm sure people may have had the same experience at forzamotorsport.net too, but GT fans has huge numbers and I think the GT extremists outnumber the FM extremists by default. Like my previous post - this is just my feelings, opinions and experiences on and with the two communities, other peoples mileage may vary. This also is a thread about the games rather than the folks that play them so I will end my commentary on the matter here with this post.
The news section at GTP is pretty bad when it comes to forza talk. This is the first most recent comment I found containing the word forza..
"Forza 4 is the worst game Ive ever played, it might as well be called bowling or tennis because it certainly aint driving."
lol
Go looking through the older news articles and it gets much worse. Sometimes the Sony community reminds me of that video I'm sure most of you here have seen where the guy is going off in his bedroom spouting all sorts of nonsense about GT5 is way superior vs fm4. I know he's a verrrrrry extreme case, and not every PS3 (only) console owner is like that, but it's just the impression I get sometimes.
PS if anyone has that video link post it up, it's good to watch for a laugh.
Ahhh I found an edited version of him to quench my thirst
The other video on that channel is the money video, hilarious stuff.
Thats the guy!! i swear thats maxrelaxing!!!! lol....thats your average GT player, right there....tottles..chap.
So after the fact you admit you purchased a game cause of the graphics only. How did you ever come to terms with having 800 cars with no IN CAR VIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How close is THAT to how you drive in real life!!!!?>??????????
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Lol. I have had FAR worse experiences with GTP members. As small as they may be, that vocal minority really ruined GTP for me. Eventually I quit conversing with the "main" audience. At first I just stayed in the Forza sub-forum; I was thrilled when this site launched. Remember in the months leading up to FM4's release when all the visitors starting coming into the Forza section and posting ridiculous observations? Lol.
Now, I rarely go there. Check news, check "DLC" updates, look for new features on Spec 2 I probably missed, read the "dissapointment" threads.... lol
I remember someone told me my speakers were broken and/or my settings were wrong because I thought the sounds of GT5 were garbage. Really? Lol.
The full videos are much more entertaining. He would attempt to read and respond to comments and barely managed to get the words out. I kind of feel bad for laughing at him because I honestly think there is something wrong with him mentally.
Although, I would like to make him into my avatar.
Now, I rarely go there. Check news, check "DLC" updates, look for new features on Spec 2 I probably missed, read the "dissapointment" threads.... lol
I remember someone told me my speakers were broken and/or my settings were wrong because I thought the sounds of GT5 were garbage. Really? Lol.
The full videos are much more entertaining. He would attempt to read and respond to comments and barely managed to get the words out. I kind of feel bad for laughing at him because I honestly think there is something wrong with him mentally.
Although, I would like to make him into my avatar.
Wrong again, official Forza 4 forum has more abuse and grief levelled at Turn 10 and Dan Greenwalt than any at PD or Kaz.
Its not as bad as it was back in Forza 3.
So instead of blindly stating how great Forza is the community actually helps shape the game to be better!!
learn from it...
But aside from some OTT stuff on there its not folks preoccupied by GT5 its folks making sure they pinpoint Forzas issues so we can either get a patch or get improvements for Forza 5.
If you max and others spent less time on here trying to prove somehow you have a better game then other people (even though most of us have GT5 also. duhhhhhh...)
And more time polity stating to Kaz where GT5 falls short...maybe we could get a better GT game next time around...9but no, apparently GT5 is 100% awesome!!..doh.)
here goes Forzas problems i would like addressed.
We need at least wind screens but ideally a level of in car like Shift 2 (current market leader IMO for in car immersion)
Visual upgrades of in car when tuned up, so race steering wheel etc..
better damage model
Theres more but they are main ones they need to really push foward.
Why is it that the vocal GT fans cant even admit GT5'S MASSIVE FLAWS..??
Forza has loads, thats life, its only a game at the end of the day, at least Turn 10 tried their best..(or at least make it look like they did)..PD on other hand....800 last gen ported over cars from GT4?????
lazy....
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One of the latest from our YouTube friend (Dec. 2, 2011)
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"I am the schlong of the messiah" LOL!
I would like to see the servers and menu lag problems addressed. As well as the "sticky grass" made stickier and cover more areas in online multiplayer. I raced several spec circuit runs tonight and did not get one win from everyone cutting corners and going off track to achieve wider apexes to carry more speed. Yes.... I rage quit.
They can add weather, night, windshields, etc next gen. I am more than pleased with this release.
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"I am the schlong of the messiah" LOL!
I would like to see the servers and menu lag problems addressed. As well as the "sticky grass" made stickier and cover more areas in online multiplayer. I raced several spec circuit runs tonight and did not get one win from everyone cutting corners and going off track to achieve wider apexes to carry more speed. Yes.... I rage quit.
They can add weather, night, windshields, etc next gen. I am more than pleased with this release.
I love that guy. His parents clearly need to to step in and stop him using the internet....though i'll bet his parents are even more obese.
Yes online better servers, more sticky grass for cheats.....address the PI issue.
The more GT and Forza push eaxh other the better games, we, the consumer will get....thats why i dont get this 'game war', see if a game is good i'll buy it...dont care who makes it, which console its on...i have no loyalty just to myself in gaming....
I have no sides.....which is why i was happy to purchase Shift 2 and got my enjoyment from it and Race Pro, flawed but got my monies worth.....
All i am saying here is that for me Forza 4 is the better game than GT5....in fact Forza 3 was better than GT5.....its a petrolheads dream, its creative (painting, photos etc) love the community (not online smashers though!!).... Forza just has....how to put it...forza just has more soul, more life to it..for me anyway....hence why im on here and not on a GT5 site trying to convince them they are playing the wrong game...lol....
Yes online better servers, more sticky grass for cheats.....address the PI issue.
The more GT and Forza push eaxh other the better games, we, the consumer will get....thats why i dont get this 'game war', see if a game is good i'll buy it...dont care who makes it, which console its on...i have no loyalty just to myself in gaming....
I have no sides.....which is why i was happy to purchase Shift 2 and got my enjoyment from it and Race Pro, flawed but got my monies worth.....
All i am saying here is that for me Forza 4 is the better game than GT5....in fact Forza 3 was better than GT5.....its a petrolheads dream, its creative (painting, photos etc) love the community (not online smashers though!!).... Forza just has....how to put it...forza just has more soul, more life to it..for me anyway....hence why im on here and not on a GT5 site trying to convince them they are playing the wrong game...lol....
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Yeah I was just going to say, you should not take things on the internet seriously....this is an obvious troll.
