Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

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Funny thing, after reaching the Hall of Fame, my car (the Ferrari F40 C) completely died, it wouldn't move from its spot... After rebooting, I appeard at the Wilds Outpost, which is weird because that was not my set Home...Anyways, Hall of Fame!
Mine did that before, many times, and one way to fix it was to change the tune, save it, and go back to the game. Or, like you mention, restarting the game.
 
I can't stand that AI 😡. This is probably the worst AI in the Forza history. It's killing the fun for me, there is no point in races if I can clearly see the AI cheating. It's so obvious.
From what I have learned, they get a massive acceleration boost at the start, so I'm selecting/building my cars for launch and acceleration first. For the dirt/offroad events, offroad tyres work best and don't add much points, so then you can spen them on power and other upgrades. I also invest on brakes, because by breaking early I get them in the curves with more exit speed.
 
I thought my acc wasn’t eligible for game pass for a buck since I both regular and ultimate. I was wrong. I got it. Hope it looks good on medium. Seems my machine is capable of that.
 
I found silent nerf not included in hot fix.
They have also removed the super wheel spin from the Ford F-450 SD tree. And there is no mastery to replace it.

I am very disappointed and angry with this decision of theirs because I love this car and have owned several of these cars regardless of the Exploit.
Deleting the Super wheelspin is, well, unavoidable. But why is there not even a replacement Mastery? And why didn't they tell us about the nerf to this car?
It seems like they are losing their integrity and refusing to talk to the community.
 
I found silent nerf not included in hot fix.
They have also removed the super wheel spin from the Ford F-450 SD tree. And there is no mastery to replace it.

I am very disappointed and angry with this decision of theirs because I love this car and have owned several of these cars regardless of the Exploit.
Deleting the Super wheelspin is, well, unavoidable. But why is there not even a replacement Mastery? And why didn't they tell us about the nerf to this car?
It seems like they are losing their integrity and refusing to talk to the community.
Yeah, they actually did note the removal of superspin exploits.. I think you're just over blowing an issue.
 
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This is going to take me some time, considering I have yet to finish a single Arcade.

I found silent nerf not included in hot fix.
They have also removed the super wheel spin from the Ford F-450 SD tree. And there is no mastery to replace it.

I am very disappointed and angry with this decision of theirs because I love this car and have owned several of these cars regardless of the Exploit.
Deleting the Super wheelspin is, well, unavoidable. But why is there not even a replacement Mastery? And why didn't they tell us about the nerf to this car?
It seems like they are losing their integrity and refusing to talk to the community.
The removal of the exploit shouldn’t affect you in any way. The super wheelspin isn’t even a performance or skill upgrade. The F-450, after all the skills have been purchased, will perform exactly the same. It will accumulate skill points in exactly the same way. You only lose a super wheelspin. You say you love the F-450 and own several regardless of the exploit. So I don’t understand why the removal of the exploit you said you don’t care about should make you so angry.
 
Anyone else having even worse multiplayer than before the update?

Horizon Arcade => gave it one try, I was alone. Gave up after 30 seconds of soloing piñatas with no progress at all.

The Trial => tried to connect like 8 times now or so. Only once did a game start, just me and 1 other player…

And who makes up these events? The trial is A800 Modern Supercars. Below is the list of all the Modern Supercars in the game :

2015 BMW i8
2013 Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus 5.2 FSI quattro
2020 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Coupé
2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S
2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
2010 Lexus LFA
2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition (R35)
2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera
2017 Nissan GT-R (R35)
2008 Lamborghini Reventón
2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV
2018 Saleen S1
2009 Ferrari 458 Italia
2015 McLaren 570S Coupé
2017 Acura NSX
2016 Audi R8 V10 plus
2014 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4
2015 McLaren 650S Coupé
2015 Ferrari 488 GTB
2017 Ford GT
2010 Jaguar C-X75
2019 McLaren 720S Spider
2018 McLaren 720S Coupé

And below is a list of all the modern Supercars that fit into A800 :

2015 BMW i8

Like…. seriously PG? Who makes up these settings? I even tried to put the heaviest rim style on the 2013 R8 to push it from S1 802 to A800 but nope, lowest I could get was S1 801. Sigh.

Last week the Modern sports cars on a Dirt championship was also an awkward combination. Now this. Is this all randomly generated or so? Give us some fun combinations to allow a diverse field of cars. And events that make sense. What’s next? Drift cars on an off road championship? …..

exit rant
 
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I keep getting reset to my starter car...
If the current car ID in the profile either doesn't exist or the player doesn't have permission to use that content, the game safely defaults to garage ID 1, as in the first car that the player acquired (a legacy behaviour dating back to at least FM2). So far in FH5, this check seems to happen before all of the licenses are loaded, so the game thinks that the current car is locked content and switches cars. It happens consistently with the Welcome Pack cars, but may do it with anything from the Car Pass too, I've not tested it in any real depth.

It was an issue with at least FH4 before it too, just rarer as fewer cars were locked out in that way. FH1 had a similar issue where drivetrain conversions on the current car would effectively destroy the savegame, but I don't know whether that's a cause or symptom of that game having all drivetrain conversions removed out of the box.
 
Anyone else having even worse multiplayer than before the update?

Horizon Arcade => gave it one try, I was alone. Gave up after 30 seconds of soloing piñatas with no progress at all.

The Trial => tried to connect like 8 times now or so. Only once did a game start, just me and 1 other player…

And who makes up these events? The trial is A800 Modern Supercars. Below is the list of all the Modern Supercars in the game :

2015 BMW i8
2013 Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus 5.2 FSI quattro
2020 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Coupé
2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S
2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
2010 Lexus LFA
2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition (R35)
2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera
2017 Nissan GT-R (R35)
2008 Lamborghini Reventón
2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV
2018 Saleen S1
2009 Ferrari 458 Italia
2015 McLaren 570S Coupé
2017 Acura NSX
2016 Audi R8 V10 plus
2014 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4
2015 McLaren 650S Coupé
2015 Ferrari 488 GTB
2017 Ford GT
2010 Jaguar C-X75
2019 McLaren 720S Spider
2018 McLaren 720S Coupé

And below is a list of all the modern Supercars that fit into A800 :

2015 BMW i8

Like…. seriously PG? Who makes up these settings? I even tried to put the heaviest rim style on the 2013 R8 to push it from S1 802 to A800 but nope, lowest I could get was S1 801. Sigh.

Last week the Modern sports cars on a Dirt championship was also an awkward combination. Now this. Is this all randomly generated or so? Give us some fun combinations to allow a diverse field of cars. And events that make sense. What’s next? Drift cars on an off road championship? …..

exit rant
There is again a modern sports cars on a dirt championship this week...
 
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Deleting the Super wheelspin is, well, unavoidable. But why is there not even a replacement Mastery? And why didn't they tell us about the nerf to this car?
It seems like they are losing their integrity and refusing to talk to the community.
Really?

I mean, I'm pretty ambivalent to the Willys and Supra exploits, especially in a game which already gives you lots of cars and cash already, but like, it's not really that bad to begin with.

And they absolutely did tell us about the removal of Super Wheelspins from 'various cars' masteries, it's right there in the patch notes for the hot fix. You just didn't read them, and more over, most people didn't expect it to extend to other cars, only the two most famous ones. So how Playground can 'lose integrity' and 'refuse to talk to the community' over something that they did, and voiced, people just thought it only extended to two of the most famous cases? If anything, it's certainly pro-active to quell any sort of whack-a-mole from people moving on to try the next car to apply it to.
Well, it looks like Blueprints no longer work in Weekly Events.
Thanks for the great work, PG, you put more passion and effort into not allowing players to save 10 minutes of their time each week than into the "trivial" task of fixing a bug.
also lol. If you seriously think that trying to cut out people from doing the bare minimum for rewards with the tools they are given is somehow bad, when they're already trying to fix bugs (and indeed, have tried to since early access) then I don't really know what to say to you. Just more typical histrionics.
 
I used a Lotus myself, and with it being mid-engined, it performed great.
I have a TT fitted for rally and won the first two races, but I had serious fun switching to a stock MB CLK for the Pipila track, which is half street/half dirt, came in second and won the championship.
 
There is again a modern sports cars on a dirt championship this week...
Yeah I just noticed it. 🙄 Started with the singleplayer stuff because multiplayer seems borked. Absolutely horrible seasonal event design, just the same bad stuff from last week. I won it in the stock 2015 Audi TT but it’s just a lot of crap and not much fun. There are at least half a dozen of rally car divisions, off-road vehicles, SUVs, buggies, UTVs and what not which are actually fun on dirt races. Heck even trucks or classic muscle cars make some sense. But not this. And most certainly not in the first weeks of seasonal events where they should really put the proper car types on the proper road surfaces.

I feel absolutely sorry for all those new-to-Forza players who completely have no clue what’s going on and wonder why they finish 10/12 place (or worse) in their starter Supra A90 doing these events.

Absolutely horrible game design. Give any Forza fan with only a few years of experience all the race circuits, all the car divisions and ask them to make some fun combinations, they will do it way better than what I’ve seen so far from PG.

Like seriously, what is goig on? The most bugged Forza game I have ever seen, multiplayer not properly working, seasonal events which are crap, daily seasonals not properly unlocking, drivatars are the worse AI I‘ve seen in a modern Forza game too. What is happening? Did the good devs from FH4 move to the Fable team and did they recruit a bunch of noobs for FH5?

All previous FH games on Xbox One have always been top quality standard releases and have been the smoothest launches so I absolutely cannot understand what is going on right now.
 
The seasonal danger sign doesn't seem to work for me, tried it with a Monaro and a Charger, both in A class, and it didn't register even though I went over the objective 🙄
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Why is the E46 GTR's rear wing so hilariously miscolored on the actual GTR model, but correct as an upgrade part on the base M3? Wut.

And you can't paint the GTR's wing on the GTR either because...reasons. Oh, and that paintjob is way too light as well. Please fix. :banghead:
 
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