Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

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I was able to unlock the Jag and Lotus this weekend only car I missed was the Toyota SUV. Hopefully like what they’ll recycle through again like what they do with Horizon 4 when all the new cars are done.
 
Morbid65
The Eventlab thing this week is a totally uninspired "LoOk gUyS iT hAs JuMpZ" style thing just like what used to plague GTA Online, and on top of that it's so easy to "miss" the final checkpoint, it makes me wonder who picked this and why. Surely this isn't the best the community has to offer.

Unfortunately I actually wanted the 45 point car this week so I had to grind through this boring stuff this week. Can we all complain more so that they stop putting exclusive cars as the high point thing like they did in FH4?
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I agree. It also is not fair for players who don't have XBOX Live Gold, such as myself.
 
I get why some people don’t get Gold or Ultimate memberships. It’s a good chunk of money and some people just don’t have it. For others it’s a simple calculation: what you get by buying it versus what you give up by not buying it, and if you don’t feel the value is there, you don’t buy it. But a lot of these complaints sound like some people want the benefits of Gold membership without paying for Gold membership.
 
Up until FH4, I saw a lot of people defending playlists saying "it's a free update, don't complain" or "it's better than paid DLC".
And what do those people do in FH5?
They continue to be Playlist advocates, and now they are in a position to criticize players who don't have XBL Gold.
It's kind of funny that the same people who defended Playlist for being free are now defending even the current Playlist.

Me? My opinion has not changed. "DLC is better than playlists."
No weekly chores, I can buy as many as I want, 10 or 100.
To me, that's enough of an attraction and advantage.
 
What nation will everyone represent for the upcoming series 4 world cup and why? Your possible choices are USA, Japan, UK, Germany, France, Italy.

I’m going with France mainly because of the geographical aspect. I live in Belgium (albeit the Dutch speaking part) so I could just as well take Germany but I absolutely love France as a country, it’s beautiful to travel and with all the suffering they went through in recent years (ISS attacks, Notre Dame up in flames, Paris flooded) I sympathise with them more than ever before. The second reason is that I always root for the underdog and I think France will be the least popular country for players to choose.

France only has 17 cars in the game from 4 brands : Renault (7) & Alpine (2), Peugeot (3) and Bugatti (5). But they are well spread out, French cars represent the 1920s and then every decade from the 1960s until 2010s. They include many car divisions as well with several hot hatch and rally divisions, classic cars and then the modern powerful Bugatti’s in S2 class.

I’m curious how the festival playlist will work out but if we can only drive cars from the 6 possible countries, then I think playlist restrictions will be mostly based on PI, maybe on decade. Either way, I’m looking forward to it, I think it will be fun! I imagine the festival front page will have 6 progress bars (one for each country), similar to the one progress bar we had for the Peel P50 unlock.

This is how many cars each country has in the game :

USA: 184
Germany: 116
UK: 80
Japan: 79
Italy: 64
France: 17
 
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I'm sorry, but if PG ends up changing the points system after me and many others PAYED money to get xbox live to earn these rare cars will only piss us off. Change it and than suddenly you'll have people saying things have become tedious rather than a chore. It's a lose lose situation for PG at this point.

And no, making every single car DLC isn't any better either, because you still have to pay for the car pass to earn these cars too, do you not? We have some cars from past entries making a return in the playlist as well. Are you telling me people are gonna want to pay for those too, when they made it loud and clear they despised it back in FH4? Please... Stop bringing the whole DLC stuff up if it's just gonna end up in a similar situation as the playlist. Yeah, it becomes easily accessible....but than the game becomes boring afterwards.

Like I said. PG better not change the points system unless everybody stops paying for xbox live, or COMPLETELY overhauls the system.
 
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@TokoTurismo we payed Gold for playing online. I really doubt anyone payed Gold for the new cars. Anyway those without Gold can still get those cars either through AH or later (Forzathon Shop, Backstage...). You getting mad because you payed money for Gold is really not justified since non Gold members can get those too.
Beside I don't remember anyone complaining when they change it in FH4.

@WanganDream I know there are a lot of players that don't like the Playlist, but to hope they will abandon it is not realistic. You have any idea how many players wait for Thursday to play the game again? Even those that hate the game play it. In this form or changed it will stay. And the same goes for the free cars as a prize. They want us to play the game and I can't see where is the problem with that.
Not last. DLC only give you one option to get a car. Pay money. With free content you have other options too. And they are right. You don't need to do any Playlist, because it's correct.

breyzipp
What nation will everyone represent for the upcoming series 4 world cup and why?
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Italy because I'm Italian. That and Ferrari (because I can't say Alfa 😢). Anyway if it comes to who grinds the most races I won't bother with it much. But I'm curious how will it turn out.
 
strela
@TokoTurismo we payed Gold for playing online. I really doubt anyone payed Gold for the new cars. Anyway those without Gold can still get those cars either through AH or later (Forzathon Shop, Backstage...). You getting mad because you payed money for Gold is really not justified since non Gold members can get those too.
Beside I don't remember anyone complaining when they change it in FH4.
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There is still not much point in locking those car that far in the progress just so the players with Gold could unlock it. Also with 3 months into the game, none of the playlist cars has yet to appear in Forzathon shop and backstage pass still don't exisit in FH5 too.

We paid for Gold because for online access but locking cars that only Gold users can unlock is just seems ridiculous in design. Considiering each player only get 1 car and getting those cars through auction house is a chore on its own. Also the Trials events have been mostly luck based, it is ridiculously time consuming to do it at times as well.
strela
@WanganDreamThey want us to play the game and I can't see where is the problem with that.
Not last. DLC only give you one option to get a car. Pay money. With free content you have other options too. And they are right. You don't need to do any Playlist, because it's correct.
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Nothing wrong for the devs to want its players to play the game but I don't see the point of locking out a chunk of brand new content to require online part of the game to unlock, while the 25 pts possible for non Gold players only 2 weesks with new cars in it and the seasonal championships has been giving out cheap cars that are buyable straight from autoshow.

On series 1 the playlist at least they were nice enough to have the new cars like the Delorean put at the 25pts reward while having rare wheelspin exclusive cars as the higher reward. Not sure what made them flip the rewards to make it more time consuming and Gold required.

Also they barely changed the playlist structure to make it any better since it got introduced to FH4, is the same structure with similar objectives. Doing the same objectives for the last 2 years was boring enough for me. These days I just try to get rid of the playlist objectives as soon as possible just so I could get back to fun part of just driving around in the game.
 
strela
@TokoTurismo we payed Gold for playing online. I really doubt anyone payed Gold for the new cars. Anyway those without Gold can still get those cars either through AH or later (Forzathon Shop, Backstage...). You getting mad because you payed money for Gold is really not justified since non Gold members can get those too.
Beside I don't remember anyone complaining when they change it in FH4.
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I'm not mad, just upset. And my reason for getting gold is not to just play online, but to also get rid of the annoying drivatars in freeroam. They drive me nuts (pun not intended.) What I would do is get rid of the requirements that forces you to play online to complete certain challenges. That by itself is ridiculous.
 
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Like the idea of nations, reminds me of Gran Turismo Sport Manufacturer Series and is probably where they took the inspiration.

Not easy to pick a country but I'll be choosing between Germany and UK. I've lived in Germany for a month and really enjoyed it there. I also visited BMW museum so there is a tiny connection with the car industry there:lol:

Although I spent only a few days in UK I really love a lot of different things from there. Music, football, weather, medieval castles are just a few and of course there are racing tracks and cars.

So the plan is to assess the whole car park of these two countries before making a final decision.

Just hope that the progress bars, if there are any, will not be fake this time.
 
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strela
@TokoTurismo we payed Gold for playing online. I really doubt anyone payed Gold for the new cars. Anyway those without Gold can still get those cars either through AH or later (Forzathon Shop, Backstage...). You getting mad because you payed money for Gold is really not justified since non Gold members can get those too.
Beside I don't remember anyone complaining when they change it in FH4.

@WanganDream I know there are a lot of players that don't like the Playlist, but to hope they will abandon it is not realistic. You have any idea how many players wait for Thursday to play the game again? Even those that hate the game play it. In this form or changed it will stay. And the same goes for the free cars as a prize. They want us to play the game and I can't see where is the problem with that.
Not last. DLC only give you one option to get a car. Pay money. With free content you have other options too. And they are right. You don't need to do any Playlist, because it's correct.


Italy because I'm Italian. That and Ferrari (because I can't say Alfa 😢). Anyway if it comes to who grinds the most races I won't bother with it much. But I'm curious how will it turn out.
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I liked how FH4 handled the Festival Playlist (for the most part). Those Playlists had the new car as either at 50% (25 Points) or as a Seasonal Championship prize. And after FH5 Series 3 ends, all of the new cars are locked at 45 Points, which requires XBOX Live Gold to unlock.
 
Apple Slipper
I liked how FH4 handled the Festival Playlist (for the most part). Those Playlists had the new car as either at 50% (25 Points) or as a Seasonal Championship prize. And after FH5 Series 3 ends, all of the new cars are locked at 45 Points, which requires XBOX Live Gold to unlock.
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It wasn't always like that in FH4 though, early on they even made the week's exclusive car a Trial reward so Xbox Live Gold was a requirement. They "experimented" with a few things but ultimately I'm pretty sure they knew exactly what they were doing, as evidenced by the fact that they've reverted back to the same strategy as in the early days of FH4, and it just feels like a ploy to keep people playing. No worries if you don't have Gold and can't get the cars this time, there will be another opportunity in future, right? Just gotta keep logging in every week to find out when.
 
neema_t
It wasn't always like that in FH4 though, early on they even made the week's exclusive car a Trial reward so Xbox Live Gold was a requirement. They "experimented" with a few things but ultimately I'm pretty sure they knew exactly what they were doing, as evidenced by the fact that they've reverted back to the same strategy as in the early days of FH4, and it just feels like a ploy to keep people playing. No worries if you don't have Gold and can't get the cars this time, there will be another opportunity in future, right? Just gotta keep logging in every week to find out when.
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That's why I said "for the most part".
 
Anyone think we might see some DLC 1 expansion reveal today in the Let’s Go! Series 4 stream? I honestly think it would be possible, compared to previous Horizon games we are already running late on the release day. But, this is also the first time the holiday break falls in between the release of the main game and the first expansion so some extra weeks delay from the norm feels normal.

My prediction for the release of DLC 1 would be mid/late Februari, especially if the new Motorsport game is to be released in fall 2022 and I assume they want to be done with new FH5 content (read: expansions) by the time the hype train for the new FM is moving. And if mid/late February is indeed the case, that means if they want to build any hype in a Let’s Go! stream, it’ll have to be this one.

It would be a bit sad if the new trailer would suddenly fall out of the sky unexpectedly on the Xbox YT channel in a few weeks. PGG deserves the honours to announce it themselves IMO. And it would also be a smart move to put it in the same Let’s Go episode as where they reveal the Chinese cars since not everyone seems to be happy about that for all sorts of reasons, so it would add a bit of distraction from that.

I don’t want to get people‘s hopes up unnecessary but I have a feeling the DLC 1 trailer might drop today. ☺️
 
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Wait...? What!?
 
Mike Brown mistakenly refers the Wuling Hongguang S as a "Wuling Sunshine S", and is also like that in-game.

Mind you, this is what the Wuling Sunshine S looks like, and it wasn't produced until at least 2015. The Sunshine S, however, has the same engine as the Hongguang S.

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Not related to the discussion over the upcoming car pack (which is honestly cool as I know very little about Chinese cars), but can someone let me know what on earth is going on with the bafflingly fast FWDs in the C class rivals boards? I'm trying to chase down a GTPer's time and he used a Civic that I absolutely can't figure out, tune or pace wise.
 
RageRacer
Atleast they made the exclusive cars easier to get instead of getting atleast Xbox Live Gold to get them.
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I don't know what happened to them in the last few days, but it's a nice change.
I can spend more of my time on playlists on other things.
This "fix" for playlists will be a huge boon, especially since this update adds the feature to re-edit to the root creator.
 
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Not related to the discussion over the upcoming car pack (which is honestly cool as I know very little about Chinese cars), but can someone let me know what on earth is going on with the bafflingly fast FWDs in the C class rivals boards? I'm trying to chase down a GTPer's time and he used a Civic that I absolutely can't figure out, tune or pace wise.
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FWD cars have been given a bit of a much needed omph this time around I feel. They've always felt massively unspectacular, but the Mugen Civic CRX has always been a rocket regardless.
 
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TokoTurismo
Now that they've changed the points system, hopefully it will satisfy those who otherwise weren't too happy about it.
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I wasn't happy, but I'm happy now. Less points to score AND exclusive cars for 25 points? Fingers crossed this is not just to make extra advertising for these Chinese cars in Series 4. Sad to hear that the photo mode won't be fixed this time around though.
 

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