Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

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They said they are addressing the problem, but I'm not going to rejoin until it's completely safe.
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Dude!! Why didn't anybody say Horizon Open's Playground Games' modes we're Free-For-All? It literally harkins to the days of FH3's Playground Games but without teams (?), not too sure as I will need to play it again to make sure. But guys, it's back to how it used to be, which is what I've always wanted!! On my first try I've won both King and Flag Rush. I also love that Horizon Open is not competitive anymore, which will encourage me to keep playing, but mainly because it's back to how it used to be without the need of teams. Now I love FH5 even more because of it! It seriously made my day! 😀 😍
 
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I have only one thing to say about the Horizon World Cup...

It's co-ming home.
It's co-ming home.
Forza Horizon's co-ming home...

(Since it's literally made in the UK, clearly the UK is "home" for Horizon, even if it's set in Mexico 😂)
 
I finally started syncing my designs from my previous games, which took longer than it should've. Seriously, I remember it only taking a few seconds on FH4, why does it take so long on here?
The import process looked endless to me in both FH4 and FH5. Maybe you added so many liveries in FH4 that you crossed a limit for their import feature to process things fast..
 
Sometimes I really do despair for the self defeating mindset of people who play The Trial. We had to win the last race (Highland Climb?), an LM002 had slid off the track at the lefthand corner before the first bridge. I take the inside on the left and as they veer back onto the track and across to the other side my tiny Clio provided exactly the right counter force to allow them to immediately straighten up saving them time and preventing them possibly going off the bridge.

Great, right? No, apparently I have to be punished by being squeezed off the bridge. The three back markers I was ahead of go past and I never caught them, and we narrowly lost. Their fault, denying themselves and 4 other people the win. Whats the point? Whats wrong with people? Surely by now people realise The Trial is a team game.
 
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I think the series is starting to crumble under its own weight. The core idea of the game was always to offer as much freedom, content and game modes as possible. But there comes a point when it's just too much. It becomes too much for the devs to adequately fine tune and adjust all the content, expectations from players become too high, and the game just becomes a bit too unfocused. What was once the game's biggest asset (content) is now a bit of a dead weight holding it down. You kinda have to feel for Playground Games a bit, because this idea is what made the game what it is today, helped it grow to this huge player base. It's gotta be hard to go back on it now, especially with Microsoft breathing down your neck, asking you to help boost the gamepass numbers.

FH5 has an insame amount of game modes when you think about it, from all different race types, to online modes, PG games, eliminator... And yet none of them feel completely polished. The car list is absolutely massive and incredibly varied, compared to literally any other car game, but still fans feel disappointed not to see enough new cars. And the cars added don't feel that special IMO, they're not really given the proper presentation and care to shine as they should. It just feels like a new collectible. The map kinda has the same issue IMO, it's bigger than ever, but because they wanted to have as many biomes as possible, all the biomes end up fairly small, which makes the map feel a bit too fragmented.

The frankly unacceptable amount of bugs at launch probably has a lot to do with this as well.

I've been thinking about the Festival playlist and I think there could be an interim way to kinda nudge the game in that direction. Making the Playlist less "tasting menu" and more "single player career". It's a bit of a shame to build a car for a PR stunt, and then just forget about it. The playlist isn't very engaging when it just feels like a list of chores to get through. If the series were more car focused, with car themes, and championships, stunts, modes, and especially rewards that all fit within the same car theme, it'd help bring the focus back on the cars. Maybe making people choose a car and stick with for a big part of the playlist, building and tuning it for different events, spending more time with a car, could help cars to feel more special. This series' World Cup is kinda a step in the right direction but it's still fairly timid. I think they should have forced people to choose a country and you'd have to stick with it for the whole series.

It's kinda frustrating because all the ingredients for a great game are there already, and I do enjoy the game a lot. It's not like it is particularly lacking in any way, it just needs to be rearranged and structured a bit better IMO. I hope GT7's likely success gives PG some ideas about single player structure. And they maybe cut back some of the content for FH6, bring a bit more focus to the series.
 
I used to watch Eric a lot in the past. Specially him and Starky (I probably butchered his name) racing or doing challenges was quality content imo. But with FH4 things changed. Suddenly he started to upload only videos about exploits and glitches. It wasn't interesting to watch anymore. And the trend continue I see. Such a shame.
Anyway I agree with what he said. There are things that are lacking in terms of quality. And while the brake glow or the shifting animation are a good examples of things that could be better the Nio car mastery is really searching hard for something to complain about. Come on Eric, you can do way way better than this.

And there is another thing that I just don't understand. Why when it comes to cars and Forza we have this high expectations? It wasn't like this in the past. Like nobody had any problem with famous French brands missing in FH2, even though the French automobile industry is huge. Yet here we are not only expecting Mexican cars which are few. We expecting even non Mexican cars that are build or just popular in Mexico to be added to the game.
Or to just compare it to the upcoming competitor. TDU is going to Hong Kong. Does anyone expecting Chinese cars in it? I don't.
 
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And there is another thing that I just don't understand. Why when it comes to cars and Forza we have this high expectations? It wasn't like this in the past. Like nobody had any problem with famous French brands missing in FH2, even though the French automobile industry is huge. Yet here we are not only expecting Mexican cars which are few. We expecting even non Mexican cars that are build or just popular in Mexico to be added to the game.
Or to just compare it to the upcoming competitor. TDU is going to Hong Kong. Does anyone expecting Chinese cars in it? I don't.
Except they kinda set a precedent with Aussie cars in FH3 and British cars in FH4. I'm not saying FH5 needs to have every weird MDM derivative of a well known model/platform or sports car made by a small Mexican Mami y Papi outfit, but relatively low-hanging fruit like the third-gen Dodge Ramcharger, VAM Lerma, Mastretta MXT and, yes, the almighty Tsuru would keep the trend going. As it stands, FH5 is a glaringly, undeniably massive regression in terms of localized car selection.
 
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So my point total has reset back to zero as I've logged in. I'd only done the photo challenge and monthly rival so far, at least.

It didn't even register last night when I chose a German car to start the weekly challenge. It hasn't registered again tonight, either.

I never had a single issue of this kind with Horizon 4.
 
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Today's daily challenge is to get five stars total from Trailblazers in the AlumiCraft. I thought I'd do the two newest ones that were added a couple weeks ago, only to find they're gone. I'm probably the last person to notice, but I had no idea they were temporary.
 
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Today's daily challenge is to get five stars total from danger signs in the AlumiCraft. I thought I'd do the two newest ones that were added a couple weeks ago, only to find they're gone. I'm probably the last person to notice, but I had no idea they were temporary.
Have I had a stroke, or weren't they Trailblazers?
 
You are correct. I have corrected my post.
Oh, thank goodness. I thought my sleep patterns were catching up with me and smashing my brain out.

So they've gone? That's so weird and might explain why the start markers keep appearing and disappearing while they were supposed to be there. Now all we need to do is find out why people are racking up 58/56 areas discovered (I got one yesterday, just north of the road above the Horizon Street Scene Outpost).
 
Oh, thank goodness. I thought my sleep patterns were catching up with me and smashing my brain out.

So they've gone? That's so weird and might explain why the start markers keep appearing and disappearing while they were supposed to be there. Now all we need to do is find out why people are racking up 58/56 areas discovered (I got one yesterday, just north of the road above the Horizon Street Scene Outpost).
Because this is a game where you have to give 103.571%...
 
Holy 🤬, have any of you taken the CC8S for a spin? That is the most accurate I have ever heard the Modular V8 in any racing game it's ever been in. The gear wobble, the upshifts and downshifts, and the engine note itself is just...wow. It's not perfect but it's the closest I've ever heard it.
 
Oh, thank goodness. I thought my sleep patterns were catching up with me and smashing my brain out.

So they've gone? That's so weird and might explain why the start markers keep appearing and disappearing while they were supposed to be there. Now all we need to do is find out why people are racking up 58/56 areas discovered (I got one yesterday, just north of the road above the Horizon Street Scene Outpost).
I figured it had to do with their 'fix' of outposts being invisible in Eliminator, which in turn made them re-discoverable for some reason.

Does it make sense? No. Do other issues in FH5 make sense? Also no.
 
Fired up the box a couple of days ago and Xbox booted up to show the whole squished letterbox SD bug. So sorted that out thanks to YouTube but now the sound in game is out of whack. In exterior views the cars are really quiet but interior sounds are very loud- makes every car sound like it’s running a racing sequential box. Anyone know how to sort this out? I’m thinking of reinstalling the game but that’ll take a while so want to avoid that if possible.
 
I think I’m finally going to give up 100%’ing every festival playlist activity. Been doing so since launch (I got 100% in seasons 0, 1, 2 and 3 after they fix the bugged ones) but I honestly can’t be arsed to jump into Playground Games again to go capture 3 flags (🤮🤮🤮) or in the eliminator to jump into a level 4 car. The latter is even quite easy but… I just don’t feel like doing it. I could drag on the 100% streak for a few months longer but inevitably it will get ruined anyway due to holidays abroad around summer, so I might as well give up now.

I will still get all the other weekly and daily challenges as long as they are either fun, quick or easy. And yes that still includes the Trial, I like to complain about its difficulty a lot on this forum but I think I would honestly miss doing it. :D:cheers:

I don’t mind finishing off some future seasonal playlists with 95-99% completion, it’s just an indication there was some stuff in there I hated to do. 😝

With Grid Legends and GT7 around the corner, interest in FH5 is dropping a bit again. Which in the end is completely fine, there is nothing wrong with enjoying multiple racing games and switch between them in regards to which one is the favourite game. Besides, as soon as FH5 expansion info drops, I’m sure the excitement will go through the roof again.

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Talking about playing several racing games simultaneousl, is there anyone else that has a favourite camera view for each game individually? I found myself choosing the following views for each game (all played with a controller) :

  • FH5 (racing mode) : chase cam far (FH/FM are IMO the only games where the chase cams feel really good)
  • FH5 (immersion cruising mode) : cockpit view (with the wheel visible since I play on a controller)
  • GT Sport : bumper view (the road with the gauges)
  • GRID 2019 : bonnet view (great visibility and sense of speed)
  • Project CARS 1/2/3 : helmet view (I don’t play these atm but I loved that camera view where you look into the corners)
 
FH5, I use bonnet view for racing and chase cam for cruising and some drifting events. Not a chase car fan in most games.

Festival playlist: I was two points short for the second car this week so had to choose between capturing three flags, doing monthly rivals or braving the trial. I got the Trial on the third attempt as it took me that long to find an eligible British car which worked (Corsa VXR).

My colleague in a car from a faster country (think it was Japan) kept beeping me as if beating me was an achievement, but I just wanted the playlist points and to add some representation for the UK so it maybe doesn't finish last in World Cup.
 
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Don't get me wrong. I didn't mean your opinion is stupid. I was referring to the idea that you have to do something you don't like instead of doing stuff that you like.
This game will probably go on for another 3 years, that means another 40 or so series. Why would anyone endure all this hours of doing things they hate is something I don't understand. I played the Crew2 for a year, but I got bored of grinding for the top 3000 to get the latest car. After that there was no way I would do another Summit, no matter the prize car. That is way I said it sound stupid. Because I don't understand.

This hit me too a while ago; why struggle to get the same cars again & again that I just tuned & raced in the
last Horizon games. And btw; I`ve never 100%`ed a single Forza game and never will. But I`m still a Forza VIP:cool:

Downloaded & restarted Horizon 3 some days ago, and wow what a better game it is. Allmost "real" physics, how I`ve missed that.
And not so over-the-top crazy offroadish, I think I`ll stay in H3. The AI is actually quite interesting here, raceable.
 
Downloaded & restarted Horizon 3 some days ago, and wow what a better game it is. Allmost "real" physics, how I`ve missed that.
And not so over-the-top crazy offroadish, I think I`ll stay in H3. The AI is actually quite interesting here, raceable.
The old FH games are always a blast to revisit after several years.

For me FH2 will always hold a special place in my heart since it was my first FH game and even to this day it has some of the most beautiful roads and villages. I would be thrilled if they would give this a 4K and/or 60 FPS update. Even FH1 got that 4K update during the Xbox One X enhancement days.

Then FH3 is something special as well, the hype pre-launch was through the roof. For the first time a tropical rain forest in the game, captured sky boxes, a modern city, and more diversity between biomes. This was post-launch also the game that kept me hooked the longest and to this date the 2 best FH expansions ever are both for FH3.

For now FH4 is still too fresh in my mind to be a classic, but I’m sure over time the appreciating for it will also grow. I think snowy winter season will make it mostly unique in the series.

And FH1, for me it holds the least sentiment of the series, that’s because I played it after FH2 and the graphics felt really dated. But I can sure understand the appreciation for this game from player that were there day one in 2012. :)
 
I think I’m finally going to give up 100%’ing every festival playlist activity. Been doing so since launch (I got 100% in seasons 0, 1, 2 and 3 after they fix the bugged ones) but I honestly can’t be arsed to jump into Playground Games again to go capture 3 flags (🤮🤮🤮) or in the eliminator to jump into a level 4 car. The latter is even quite easy but… I just don’t feel like doing it.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat here - series 3 was the first with no bugs that prevented me from getting 100%, and that'll do me fine. I'll get any exclusive cars and any prizes that I don't already have, but it's been pretty refreshing to just spend an hour or two on Thursday doing the three championships (which I enjoy) and the Trial (because I didn't have a Miura), then put the game down for the rest of the week. I had considered doing the dailies, but like you I saw the two online dailies and figured I didn't want to spend that time for 10 FP each for the sake of completion.
 
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The latter is even quite easy but… I just don’t feel like doing it.
They're both quite easy - I was intending on finding out whether the flags are cumulative (which I think they are) but I accidentally scored five in one session. And you can do it in Horizon Open PG rather than Seasonal PG.
 
As I don't need the below (Ultimate Member on Xbox), and some of you guys might want to extend your PC Game Pass (will this work for old members?), please feel free to use:

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Yeah, I'm in the same boat here - series 3 was the first with no bugs that prevented me from getting 100%, and that'll do me fine. I'll get any exclusive cars and any prizes that I don't already have, but it's been pretty refreshing to just spend an hour or two on Thursday doing the three championships (which I enjoy) and the Trial (because I didn't have a Miura), then put the game down for the rest of the week. I had considered doing the dailies, but like you I saw the two online dailies and figured I didn't want to spend that time for 10 FP each for the sake of completion.
Last series I was really serious about completing it 100% and even did the Bentley challenge but gave up somewhere between two last seasons. Think I did the right thing because I saw some bad feedback regarding Chaos (or was it wreckage?) arcade event challenge. Current series is the one with the least amount of points so far so hopefully I'll be able to force my way through it. Looking forward to getting this last achievement and casually scoring just enough points to get an exclusive car just like you afterwards. Got only one point remaining this season to kick the ball which I'll do with the start of the new season.
They're both quite easy - I was intending on finding out whether the flags are cumulative (which I think they are) but I accidentally scored five in one session. And you can do it in Horizon Open PG rather than Seasonal PG.
They are cumulative, scored two flags twice yesterday. A bit silly that cars higher than 4th lvl in Eliminator didn't count.
 
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