Forza Motorsport 3
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Actually yes I remember reading that too, in that case I guess the Audi is just a bad example much like the ring is probably a bad example of general track accuracy for whatever reason.
To clarify I don't think the Audi is terrible, it just doesn't appear to be of the standard of the other forza models which generally look very good, which is why I thought it was an FM2 screenshot at first.
To clarify I don't think the Audi is terrible, it just doesn't appear to be of the standard of the other forza models which generally look very good, which is why I thought it was an FM2 screenshot at first.
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That is a good question. 99.9% of all the photomode and non photomode (gameplay) images look far better. This is probably a bad shot, as it is in the minority.
I agree with you as well. I am seeing it the same as you.
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The guys from sim central or whatever that youtube show is called, seemed to be amazed by Forza 3. Those guys have played everything there is to offer as far as sim racing goes, and Forza 3 literally left them speechless. All they could say is that they couldn't believe that they were playing a console racer, and they were only playing it on the normal arcade style settings. It seems like forza is going to take console racing to a new level, despite what the ps3 fanboys want to believe.
I personally can't wait for forza 3 and the new fanatec wheel. It's going to be a great day for console race fans everywhere, and will only help to push PD to really take GT5 to it's max. The next year is going to be great if you have both systems.
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No worries, heres part 3
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/100/1009862p1.html
It's FM3, came from Badned at FC.net, not the usual PR picture.
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I wouldn't trust those guys at ISR for opinions on driving games if I were you.
If anyone hasn't been following the neogaf thread, there was a post from Che that might interest you:
"Many interesting theories. The truth is that cockpit FOV is something that we've been tuning for all cars for the past... I dunno, a while now. The E3 Audi R8 perspective was one setting we moved away for playability reasons. Looked nice but ultimately was a waste of real estate. Moving the FOV forward had nothing to do with framerate."
So it looks like the view has gone from this
to this (off screen photo)
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Che said it's nothing to do with framerate (he is known to lie) but I don't believe him, they couldn't make 60fps with cockpit view at E3 and they said they're working on it and it will be 60fps. Now we see the view almost pressed up against the windscreen which would take a load off the system.
I do believe the R8 pic above is a little too far back but the Citroen C4 pic is too far forward. If it had nothing to do with framerates then they would give us option to move the view around a little to suit our own tastes.
I do believe the R8 pic above is a little too far back but the Citroen C4 pic is too far forward. If it had nothing to do with framerates then they would give us option to move the view around a little to suit our own tastes.
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Mirrors, extra interior, extra track you can see left and right. Play PC games that allow the adjustment (racing sims, flight sims etc) and watch the framerate, it makes a good difference when trying to make and hold a target framerate.
Same reason I don't think GT5 will have adjustable viewing position, unless the only option is too zoom in further than we already see in GT5P.
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Are those jagged lines on the sidemirror in the first pic?
Anyways I could clearly see the difference in the width of the track in FM3 and real-life from those two photos, even if they are from different angles.
Anyways I could clearly see the difference in the width of the track in FM3 and real-life from those two photos, even if they are from different angles.
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It doesn't look too different than the position used in PGR3 and PGR4, which if you actually think about it, isn't too different from what you see when you're behind the wheel. Especially while racing. I sit pretty close to the wheel so my arms don't get tired, so my vision is essentially limited to the top half of the wheel, and the gauges.
So... I'm not bothered by it.
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Things I learned while reading the FM3 Career Mode "Hands On" piece at IGN:
- The cars you are gifted depend on your driving style. That is crazy-awesome.
- You're going to be able to put the pressure on the AI drivers with their new "Pressure" system. Follow closely, and they're more likely to make mistakes.
- Difficulty levels, apparently, are more variable than they were in FM2. That will be greatly appreciated, because I don't feel challenged enough at the highest settings.
- Lastly, they're adding a clutch feature to the controller setup (using the LB button). I'm not sure if I'll use it, but its a nice touch.
Maybe old but http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/100/1009862p2.html... Check their previous previews as well.
I like most of it except using rewind doesn´t come at a cost. Of course you don´t need to use it but everyone doesn´t have that kind of self control if you do a 1 hour ring race and crash after 45 minutes to hit restart instead of rewind. Just knowing that you have the option is probably enough to put some pressure off. Should do something like Grid that you can limit the use to say 1 rewind or turn them off and you ge a bonus reward... More configurability never hurts
And as they mentioned it would be nice with an insane option that puts everything as real as possible so you don´t have to do that manually for each race. Or be able to run some custom difficulty that it defaults to for each race? And yes more bonus for not using the rewind function. I have nothing against it as mentioned great training tool. I would have wished that nordschleife would be available in three parts let you perfect each segment faster. But rewind is the second best thing I suppose.
I like most of it except using rewind doesn´t come at a cost. Of course you don´t need to use it but everyone doesn´t have that kind of self control if you do a 1 hour ring race and crash after 45 minutes to hit restart instead of rewind. Just knowing that you have the option is probably enough to put some pressure off. Should do something like Grid that you can limit the use to say 1 rewind or turn them off and you ge a bonus reward... More configurability never hurts
And as they mentioned it would be nice with an insane option that puts everything as real as possible so you don´t have to do that manually for each race. Or be able to run some custom difficulty that it defaults to for each race? And yes more bonus for not using the rewind function. I have nothing against it as mentioned great training tool. I would have wished that nordschleife would be available in three parts let you perfect each segment faster. But rewind is the second best thing I suppose.
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Why not copy B-Spec instead of the rewind feature? That way you could speed things up
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No, No, No, and NO....
Worst mode in a racing game ever....
I actually kinda liked it.
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I was reading through the top portion of the IGN's review, and as I've said in another thread (before being directed here - I forgot about this thread) I lost a great deal of interest after watching the provided video, realizing it was the same thing from the E3 presentation.
That happen to anyone else?
That happen to anyone else?
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It´s not related to the article it has been there all the time lol. IGN saves all videos like that.
What is B-spec autopilot? I think Forza 2 already have a crappy AI driver to do the grinding for you if you hate racing
Yeah, B-Spec is exactly like the hired driver from Forza 2. They do the racing so you don't have to! I can't imagine anything more asinine in a racing game.
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It´s not related to the article it has been there all the time lol. IGN saves all videos like that.
What is B-spec autopilot? I think Forza 2 already have a crappy AI driver to do the grinding for you if you hate racing
Heh. I wasn't aware of that. I don't visit IGN often.
B-Spec mode was basically a "feature" that was in GT4 that allowed the AI to do all, if not some of the races for you. I'd say the only decent aspect of B-Spec mode was that it allowed you to speed up the race by up to three times (3x). I think Forza 2 does allow you to have the AI drive for you, but I know for sure Forza had "Drivatar" which was just as lame as B-Spec, but at least you "trained" and it very closely mimicked your own driving style.
B-Spec mode was only useful to me when it came to the 24hr races, other than that I didn't use it at all. Oh, and I almost left out that the AI for B-Spec was...uhm...well, quite retarded.
EDIT: DR beat me to it. In a more simpler post.
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The post I quoted said the screen shots added fuel to the fire that it is a shinier forza 2. If those guys were that amazed with forza 3, then it's obviously more than just a shinier forza 2. The post I quoted seemed to be making a generalization of the game as a whole from just the rings screen shots.
Forza 3 looks like a big step up no matter how much more effort they have put into every last inch of the rings modeling or what a few screen shots can show.
It seems to me that my post is right in line with the post I quoted. If not then sorry for subjecting you to reading my post. I will try harder in the future to make relevant posts that are worth your time to read.
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Go back and re-read my post.
I never said I thought it was shinier FM2, I said it adds ammo to other people who do believe it looks like a shinier FM2.
And 1 group of guys thoughts do dictate the thoughts of others.
This game looks very impressive, but all these 'Ring shots look like poop. The road/grass/building textures all look awful in relation to the new car models, which is what's surprising considering every other track looks bloody amazing!
If you want me to read your posts, read mine first. I don't believe it's a prettier version of FM2, but other people do & I can see these 'Ring shots only increasing their assumptions more.
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I am not seeing issues with the Ring shots, or the car models. And since the game is not out, it's really hard to judge the game. Previews and hands on reviews of the games from different SIM sites show that it's ending up being an excellent game, and many sim sites quoting it as the best sim racer on consoles.
Can't ask for much more when I am a console gamer.
Can't ask for much more when I am a console gamer.
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So you enjoy NOT racing in your racing games?
Honestly, would you have B-Spec, or the development time/memory usage/disc space/etc.... go to something that might improve the actual racing/driving part of the game?
Actually in Forza 1 I rather liked the drivatar. I only ever used it for 1 race to see how it went, but it was quite fun training it and seeing how high I could get its stats.
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He said she said. Who cares, you know what I meant and your trying to turn this into a war of words. You posted it, and I commented on it. I know I read your post, and know that you were talking about other peoples opinion about a shinier forza 2. I didn't know that I would have to turn this into a 15 page essay about every little detail of a post I commented on. I wasn't aiming the comment at you, just at the people you are talking about.
Anyway, I don't want to get into a cyber argument with you because they are pointless, especially this one because it pertains to absolutely nothing. I don't think anyone would look at you like you are one of those people because of my post. I quoted your whole post, so I figured that whoever read it would know that i wasn't talking about you. I didn't know I had to point out that I was quoting you, but my post was meant for the people who you were referring to. I thought I could just make a quick comment for those people, since you told who they were in the quote.
Why would I have to explain that I was talking about the other people if it said so in your quote right above my post.
Anyway, sorry and have a nice day. I thought people might read the quote before reading my post.
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You said I was making a generalization of the game.
" The post I quoted seemed to be making a generalization of the game as a whole from just the rings screen shots.
I wasn't.
You never once noted that you were actually referring to the same people I was, so it appeared you were talking about me, esp when you brought up the underlined part.
There is obviously a misunderstanding here, so it's best to move on now that we're on the same page.
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