Forza Motorsport 3

[Joey D]

What is up with Forza's interior modelling on racecars? It looks like they were an after thought. All the interiors on road cars look awesome. I mean it's not the end of the world but I just find the inconsistencies odd.

 

[Soju]

New York vid, looks like a 1 up from F2

 

[FyreandIce]

So it is more realistic, even if it is easier to control the cars. have I got that part right?

It seems strange that a more realistic model would be easier to control.


I'm, like you, using the 360's pad and I've got to the point where I'm constantly flicking the stick left and right to retain control around tricky corners. The sensation is lovely when you get to the edge of control, especially when you know that in 0.4 seconds the back end is going to trip out and you correct it before it can even happen.

I love those type of experiences.

Still, it troubles me Forza 3 is easier to control than Forza 2.

When you play with a control pad, the game is much much easier due to the steering assist imposed.

Playing with a wheel is incredible though.

 

[Scaff]

Wow, you really believe GT5P is a real driving simulator?

Have never said that about any driving sim, let alone GT5.

Anyway you made a good point, though in any other racing simulator game things are very different, but are they perfect? Nobody knows

Not a single one that I have even come across, they all have pros and cons, but none get it right, nor do I actually believe they ever will.

Too sad I can't hit 200 km/h and check cause paid 250$ speed ticket already two weeks ago. Not more than one per month, this is my motto

Here in the UK on a public road that would pretty much get you an automatic ban.


Scaff

 

[otago]

In case if somebody has X360 Arcade: Forza 3, Exploring Disc 2

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html

What are you going to miss

 

[Chronos]

I actually feel the need to check the following now, seeing as the website is indefinite in it's answer.

Can I use this,

http://www.fanatec.de/webshop/new_e...id=72&osCsid=8c5c432e11fa6c4ba612c7e3b77a3804

on the 360 with the G25 pedals?

For those who own a Fanatec wheel, how is it in terms of quality of construction and quality of feedback when playing a game, compared to the G25?

I'm trying to assess whether it's worth the £150 it's gonna cost for the privilege of playing Forza 3 with a wheel, and whether I would ever use the Fanatec in preference to the G25 wheel unit when playing GT5?

Only the Turbo S

http://www.fanatec.de/webshop/new_e...id=61&osCsid=3350d24a9030105b9e3ea0f7d3041f14

And thats £210 for the wheel and g25 pedal adapter. You don't get pedals or shifters so you're stuck with the paddles behind the wheel.

Not sure if you've posted in the steering wheel thread but you should ask bevo or post in there. He has the G25 and Turbo S beta wheel.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=112348&page=57

It quite a lot of money but all depends on how you rate and play Forza 3. If you play it regularly for 6 months or more its not that expensive for something that you will use a lot. If you get bored or feel its overkill for one game I'm sure you could get most of your money back on ebay if you keep it nice and clean with the box. Maybe get more money if fanatec are slow getting a new range out.

 

[FyreandIce]

New York vid, looks like a 1 up from F2

Yay, they added the chicanes that you could see in the track map to the actual track.

New York might actually get used this time around.

 

[Chronos]

In case if somebody has X360 Arcade: Forza 3, Exploring Disc 2

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html

What are you going to miss

Nurburgring and Fujimi Kaidois on disc 2. Look like its a must to buy a HDD.

29 tracks and 104 cars at 1.9GB of HDD space

Here's a video of some of the missing tracks..

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14345839/forza-3/videos/forza3_trackmontage_100209.html

 

[oqvist]

Yay, they added the chicanes that you could see in the track map to the actual track.

New York might actually get used this time around.

Yes it was just a pointless track in Forza 2. Can be interesting with Enna like chicanes. Would really hope Enna would be a more popular track to put into racing games it´s a superb track

 

[myke6699]

Interesting comparison of Nordschleife from FM3 and SHIFT (360 version and at 1:15 you can see tire deformation)

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[oqvist]

annoying filter used on the F3 video. Looks like they did the object removal mod on the Shift.

Highly recommended plus the grip removal patch when you are done with the career mode

 

[myke6699]

annoying filter used on the F3 video. Looks like they did the object removal mod on the Shift.

Highly recommended plus the grip removal patch when you are done with the career mode

The SHIFT's video is actually from the 360 version of the game- PC would've looked better. I think they've used the SHIFT's object removal mod on FM3 (removing most of the foliage/trees) and the road widening mod aka Nordschleife from FM2

 

[Centura]

In case if somebody has X360 Arcade: Forza 3, Exploring Disc 2

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html

What are you going to miss

Wow. Thank god I decided to get an Elite instead of Arcade.

Yay, 9-3 Aero!

 

[Vincent Viceroy]

When you play with a control pad, the game is much much easier due to the steering assist imposed.

What? Steering assist?

FYI I switch all assists off so where is this steering assist coming from?

 

[KSaiyu]

It's automatically added to driving games when you use the pad due to the inherent problems with driving with a gamepad. If it was full one to one motion cars would be virtually impossible to drive in a true sim.

 

[Eric.]

What is up with Forza's interior modelling on racecars? It looks like they were an after thought. All the interiors on road cars look awesome. I mean it's not the end of the world but I just find the inconsistencies odd.

Yeah, the pedals on that F1 look more like a texture on the floorpan rather than objects...Maybe (at least the ones we've seen thus far) these are all made after the decision to move the FOV upward.

 

[Dave A]

Nurburgring and Fujimi Kaidois on disc 2. Look like its a must to buy a HDD.

29 tracks and 104 cars at 1.9GB of HDD space

Here's a video of some of the missing tracks..

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14345839/forza-3/videos/forza3_trackmontage_100209.html

And the Amalfi coast track.

Seems like they've dumped the three big tracks onto that disc.

 

[Eric.]

I've just been posting some times in the Mini, and was surprised that it suffers with lift off oversteer when on the limit which I don't remember from FM2..

The more I play it, the more I like it, their is a slight tendancy with the cars in the demo to be a little more forgiving them perhaps ideal for pure simulation, but the whole experience is excellent..

I may have to invest in a Fanatec Wheel as it should give this game the same depth as GT5p with the G25..

I used the Mini extensively online for FM2 in either B or A class (so it was making nearly 400hp. weighting about 2100lbs, and kicking all kinds of ass) and no, I don't really remember the oversteer that you experience in FM3. When you'd lift the throttle in FM2 the front would bite much more, but the rear never got very unsettled (well, mine would sometimes, but a full race suspension is different than a stock JCW). Then again, in FM3 the Mini is usually getting loose in that 80-100mph section in the first part of the lap, so you're going up and over crests, unsettling the car even more.

 

[FyreandIce]

What? Steering assist?

FYI I switch all assists off so where is this steering assist coming from?

It is not optional.

Look at the telemetry when you race.

The wheel in the bottem left shows how much steering lock the game is using.

When you go faster the amount of lock used is lower and when you are oversteering you get alot more lock (no matter what speed) to help correct the car.

This effect is toned way down for wheels but is still there to some point.

I used the Mini extensively online for FM2 in either B or A class (so it was making nearly 400hp. weighting about 2100lbs, and kicking all kinds of ass) and no, I don't really remember the oversteer that you experience in FM3. When you'd lift the throttle in FM2 the front would bite much more, but the rear never got very unsettled (well, mine would sometimes, but a full race suspension is different than a stock JCW). Then again, in FM3 the Mini is usually getting loose in that 80-100mph section in the first part of the lap, so you're going up and over crests, unsettling the car even more.

It's called lift-off oversteer and happens in most FWD cars (in real life that is).

To get the best out of these cars requires good throttle control

 

[FyreandIce]

Oops, double post.

 

[Vincent Viceroy]

It is not optional.

Look at the telemetry when you race.

The wheel in the bottem left shows how much steering lock the game is using.

When you go faster the amount of lock used is lower

Right so it's pretty much like GT5P and Race Pro's option to adjust the speed steering sensitivity...or is it more like Ferrari/Supercar Challenge where the car adjusts whatever the situation?

...and when you are oversteering you get alot more lock (no matter what speed) to help correct the car.

If you oversteer the engine should reduce lock...shouldn't it?

Sorry for being a nuisance but my input's feel direct. I never ever get the feeling there's a helping hand.

 

[Chronos]

720p interior shot.
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9174/codday66.jpg

Posted yesterday.
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/10/3007180/ShowThread.aspx

 

[TiZzla]

sorry but compared to GT5 those pictures are laughable

 

[Mark T]

sorry but compared to GT5 those pictures are laughable

I will agree that GT5 has better graphics, but I wouldn't say that they are laughable compared to GT5.

 

[killanite]

I will agree that GT5 has better graphics, but I wouldn't say that they are laughable compared to GT5.

Dan Greenawalt : "Forza 3 is the best looking racing game on any console!" @ E3

When that claim isn't true (especially for a game released 2 years ago in GT5) .. It is quite laughable

 

[Joey D]

It's also flame baiting and has been debated out a million times before, can we carry on please?

Is that Evo showing racing modifications or a race car?

 

[Christian_C]

It's also flame baiting and has been debated out a million times before, can we carry on please?

Is that Evo showing racing modifications or a race car?

It's HKS's CT230R Time Attack car, It's not modifications done to a standard evo.

 

[Moglet]

Dan Greenawalt : "Forza 3 is the best looking racing game on any console!" @ E3

When that claim isn't true (especially for a game released 2 years ago in GT5) .. It is quite laughable

Read the rules of this thread before posting in it.

Flame baiting will get you nowhere. 👎

Given by what you've put in your gamertag section of your profile, you're a fanboy who is not welcome in this topic.

 

[killanite]

Read the rules of this thread before posting in it.

Flame baiting will get you nowhere. 👎

Given by what you've put in your gamertag section of your profile, you're a fanboy who is not welcome in this topic.

I'm not flamebaiting.. I wasn't even the first to say it was laughable.. Mark T simply thought otherwise and I told him why people think it is laughable. not flame baiting.

MY gametag is as such because I've had 2 xbox360's RROD on me and I refuse to ever buy another xbox ever again. I don't even have a PS3 yet.
I am a fan of GT though and I admit that.. sorry for being so on a GT fansite :S

 

[Christian_C]

I'm not flamebaiting.. I wasn't even the first to say it was laughable.. Mark T simply thought otherwise and I told him why people think it is laughable. not flame baiting.

MY gametag is as such because I've had 2 xbox360's RROD on me and I refuse to ever buy another xbox ever again. I don't even have a PS3 yet.
I am a fan of GT though and I admit that.. sorry for being so on a GT fansite :S

I think it was more the fact it wasn't really necessary to say what you said. I know why you were saying it and such but like I said It wasn't needed.