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Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread
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Yeah it looks good. Then dépends which version it is but it looks good.
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I'm sure I celebrated the potential of no SUV's coming on here upon hearing that, although some people do seem to be questioning a few of his statements the more/less we see. IF it's not from the ground up would any of FH5's new rally expansion mechanics be in any way transferable to the upcoming FM? Maybe they're just following PCars2 and giving us sleet/snow as part of dynamic weather, where we might be better suited driving rally cars on tarmac circuits? Could be awesome if it gets deep.
Would they need RX licence agreements to use those tracks/cars the way they were built for? Expect as this video suggests it was just time constraints but they certainly seem to love rally cars just as much - I arrived late to the game having played an early Xbox 360 version to now only having played FH4/5 via Gamepass recently and choosing to wait on this FM so haven't played any of the others yet.
I guess to Evo VIII MR we're getting has at least been raced against a Lambo on that Top Gear track sticking to the tarmac, could be fun to recreate;
The Evo VI certainly isn't the WRC winning version, but I'd be happy with some Tommi liveries.
I don't think I'll lose any sleep over the lights, I think people might be focusing on the wrong things from this trailer - I was mainly looking at the red side of the clouds thinking that'll have to change over the course of a longer race which will be real nice eye candy. Can anyone tell if this was Global Illumination? It certainly reflected nicely off the car slightly altering colour throughout - the video seemed a bit more stylised and the car colour makes it trickier to spot, but other reflections all looked good too, external mirrors looked perfect, internal ones maybe angled wrong in this video to be useful during a race in cockpit view but things like the headlight dashboard light reflecting off the inside window and and driver's glove off the beam stood out. Don't think the orange clouds changed inside colours though.
Made a nice job of those lawns.
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I think I read somewhere that they are bringing the historic layout into the game, it could be that, as it is shorter than the current circuit
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Wow, as usual the Forza Subreddit has gone extremely toxic. People on there have been upvoting comments that call Turn 10 Studios the r-word and other derogatory things. Yikes.
GTPlanet is definitely one of the last places where the Forza fans are not toxic.
GTPlanet is definitely one of the last places where the Forza fans are not toxic.
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If they didn't fix the car models after a 6 year dev cycle they'll never ever fix them. You could make an argument in the past that they were pressed for time with 2 year dev cycles, but this time they had all the time in world and still didn't do it. It's just not a priority for them. At the same time the car list should be bigger than Forza 7 then, if you're gonna reuse assets go on and reuse all of them. Same for tracks, new tree models don't justify going from 32 to 20 tracks. Placing trees around the circuit is not that hard, tracks surface and buildings are carried over as well.
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Gone? It's always been toxic. As is most of social media for almost any individual game or subject. Keyboard warriors who have no idea, no reality or concept of game development, unrealistic needs and wants. Stayed away as much as is physically possible, GTPlanet is the only place I stick to with regards to consuming gaming content of the racing variety.
As for the models? Couldn't care less, I'm not intimate enough with every car to inspect them and pick out flaws, I'd rather have a healthy car list with good variety and plenty of favourites than a tiny car list with meticulously modelled machines that you only see in full detail a handful of times.
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The funny thing is that the cockpit of that car in the video looked pretty good to me. I do sometimes wonder if T10 are really happy just updating the shader model and remodelling the cockpit, plus altering the physics and sounds, but leaving the old external model otherwise untouched... Seems like they are doing 80% of the work to update the model, but the most visible bit is left out.
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Wow, I just read through that thread. Not sure if GT Fan Boyz or low IQ complainers. I specifically love the posters who claim same model as FM1 along with those that agree. I could break down that whole thread but it would take me hours. Conclusion, that thread is actually BOTH GT Fan Boyz AND Low IQ complainers. The most toxic Reddit thread on FM23 yet.
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I think the complaints for car models is fair, considering how many times chris keep saying built from the ground up,
The evo in that trailer looked bad their is no questions about it
You dont have to be toxic or a hater of forza becouse of that, people can complain about this becouse they want it to be better, i am dissapointed they still recycle models going all the way back to fm1, but their is things i love that they done specially with builders cup where you actully upgrade cars as you progress i like that idea,
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Wow actually that quote was bit more detailed than I remember. Im very intrigued how it will be implemented in game. Will they just have roads leading through the gravel traps that don’t exist there in real life? I guess so. In FM6 and 7s rendition of Road America, we have a layout that doesn’t quite exist in real life, but it is still a road that does, so it wasn‘t a huge leap from reality.
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M5 E39, CLK GTR, Elise GT1, Peugeot 908, MG 6 TCR, 458 GTE, 917... strange absences for now.
They may announce them, there is still a month left.
But I'm starting to think that some cars are going to come back via forzathon, playlist, seasonal events or whatever you want to call it.
And I would like to know what will happen with Stellantis. If it will be there from day one or it will arrive via update.
They may announce them, there is still a month left.
But I'm starting to think that some cars are going to come back via forzathon, playlist, seasonal events or whatever you want to call it.
And I would like to know what will happen with Stellantis. If it will be there from day one or it will arrive via update.
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I signed up for GTPlanet many years ago waiting for GT6 to release I think, but haven't returned since, came across this thread as it had some juicy information in it, I now refresh it multiple times a day, love the discourse here, feels like we're all adults, compared to twitter/reddit
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I’m inclined to agree, the evo models seems like a very strange choice considering how inaccurate it is. As soon as I watch the trailer I thought “social media is going to have a field day with this”, I think asking for updated models on anything from the 360 era or prior is fair but old models should not be used as evidence for turn10 be “lazy” like a lot of “forza fans” are claiming
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Isn't the car modelling outsourced anyway, so it isn't even Turn 10 doing it?
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I'll leave this here. Honestly, I'm not going to be upset that we may have same models as FM5 or FM6 but to say they are the same as FM1, FM2 or even FM4 is foolish especially with today's 4k/60FPS/120FPS.
FM2
FM4
FM23
FM2
FM4
FM23
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Some people in twitter and some places are nice too, at least i had been talking with some that are geuninally hyped with the game
Besides some people imply that people that like games nowdays are bots and you are suposed to hate everything and everyone lol
But the Forza Youtube Complaniner culture really ruined a lot of fun that the fanbase had, with the feedback forums i would assume it would die out a bit but still contnues...
The road was used sometimes but nowadays they only use the main course
The road irl is very wide and probally was used a few times as a track of its own, also it have removible tirewalls irl
Had you voted on forums yet? 34 votes so far, is almost double of 2 days ago but still needs more votes
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SestoScudo
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I saw a comment they said this
"Instead of scanning new models why dont they revisit old models"
Lmaoooo
"Instead of scanning new models why dont they revisit old models"
Lmaoooo
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Unironically there has lot people that want them to do it instead of a mass rescan
It shows that maybe the blame of T10 not update the cars isnt beacuse of T10, but beacuse fans dont mind and ask for other stuffs instead of car rescans
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As someone who spends just as much time in photomode as I do in game, it is somewhat disappointing. Not the end of the world for me whatsoever though. You can work magic in certain conditions for these cars, but the taillight/headlight illlumination and modeling for all these older cars does leave a lot to be desired.
I would love this. It was my go to car for A-class and it did extremely well. It was a very balanced car. Did better than I was expecting actually.
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It's incredibly dense. These "old" models are updated with every new FM escpecially when it's a new release on a next gen console. I feel like people lack common sense. It's not like T10 is just dropping FM2 models into FM23 and these models suddenly look smooth with clear headlights, refined curves, etc. Are they perfect, heck no! Are they better than FM4, absolutely thanks to 4k update. Are they better than FM7? Probably just a little.
The real question is are they as good as GT7 which is the only real question and we won't fully know till game release but keep in mind, there are some bad models in GT7 as well. In the end, it's probably a wash if T10 at least graphically smoothed out the older models. I honestly see nothing wrong with the EVO VI in the trailer. It looks just as good as FM7 if not a little smoother. I think it was a poor choice in paint color though.
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Thats false gt7 dosent have any bad car models gt7 trumps forza in this aspect more accurate car models like they always has been forza has more detailed tracks, the evo in the trailer look bad and inaccurate
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Also, if you google the Evo VI image then there are a few with the same shape as the one T10 scanned. Most have a different front bumper but not all (https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-m...d-on-a-disused-industrial-site-105572228.html)
Edit, added FM2023 video image from above for easier comparison:
(my personal take: The front lights and front radiator grille look a bit strange, but everything else looks really close. I can see why T10 wouldn't bother reworking them and the exhaust and feel that the comments are far too brutal)
Edit, added FM2023 video image from above for easier comparison:
(my personal take: The front lights and front radiator grille look a bit strange, but everything else looks really close. I can see why T10 wouldn't bother reworking them and the exhaust and feel that the comments are far too brutal)
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