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Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread
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Did you just say that the Forza community is incapable of criticizing Forza?
You have to be joking.
Let me just pull out all the copies of Forza they send me for being on this forum... oh wait.
As far as marketing videos go, Forza 6's game generations trailer is still my favorite.
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Made another comparison. I don't like the yellow filter they are using during there trailers, it looks trash and old. other than that i see some great improvements like much much better shaders (glass, leather, plastic, metal), much much better lighting (outside the yellow filter obv.), the RT effects are amazing (the way everything is reflected perfectly inside and outside the car) and the added car details like the breaks
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Monza is not overrated. It's the first purpose built race track in all of Europe and the 3rd racetrack in the world after Brooklands and Indianapolis. You may not like the layout but as history goes, it holds a very important part. I understand that a lot of people these days may not care about the history and just looking at the layout compared to a Bathurst or a Road Atlanta, it can be a bit lack luster though.
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I have a feeling we may not have to wait long for a decent chunk of those tracks as it would make sense to use them for the initial push of free content until the car pass runs out and several host major events during the initial push of the game.
October - CoTA would be day 1 DLC but fits nicely with the USGP (unofficially of course)
November - Yas Marina as a tie in with the F1 finale. (unofficially of course)
December - Not much going on anywhere but Brands Hatch is a great beginner course which seems to be what they are aiming for
January - Daytona as a tie in with the 24 Hour
February - Bathurst as a tie in with the 12 Hour
March - Sebring as a tie in with the 12 Hour
April - Nordschleife
Obviously this is just my extremely wild guess based on the fact they've said more than just the Nordschleife is coming, but just looking at the list it seems a little convenient what tracks didn't make the cut.
On a related note, whatever tracks do get added I hope are properly implemented into career mode. It would suck if they were relegated solely to free play and the off chance they pop up in online play.
It's a track that's easy to be fast on yet hard to perfect. Makes it so everyone can have an enjoyable time no matter what skill level they are.
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It sucks but they’ll also spread out new content. Launching without the ring is a bit crazy. They added it into Forza Motorsport 5 like 6 months after launch and that game was trashed in reviews for less cars and tracks. Guess 5 years of development time can’t get everything.So we lost tracks like Monza, Bathurst, Daytona, Hockenheimring, Brands Hatch, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Circuit America and the Ring for tracks like Gran Oak, Mid Ohio and Eaglerock.
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It looks really washed out and colourless, they‘re going for dramatic effect but each video just looks dull and unrealistic. It’s a shame because some circuits on the last few games had really poor lighting set into circuit (Bathurst was one, could never have normal clear day, everything was always yellow), so I was really hoping we’d have a reset here. Other than a small snippet of Silverstone gameplay, everything just looks the same. Forza Horizon 4 and 5 both looks stunning, with fantastic and realistic lighting, and vibrant colours.
I feel like every comment I add to this thread is negative, and while my opinions on we‘ve seen so far aren’t entirely negative, I’m definitely a bit nervous about what we’ll see on release.
On the final track list, stoked for Mid Ohio, great track, same goes for Lime Rock. I just feel as though quite a large portion of the US circuits are quite similar visually. While entirely different in terms of layout, Mid Ohio, Lime Rock, Road America, Watkins Glen, VIR and even the addition of Grand Oak (even though it’s a fantasy circuit, and I don’t think it’s clear where it’s located?’, they all feel like they could just be each other. Maple Valley could even be grouped in together there, even though that’s a bit more cinematic. Its not about the about US heavy track list in particular, Sebring and Daytona are both circuits vastly visually different from the ones.
I feel like every comment I add to this thread is negative, and while my opinions on we‘ve seen so far aren’t entirely negative, I’m definitely a bit nervous about what we’ll see on release.
On the final track list, stoked for Mid Ohio, great track, same goes for Lime Rock. I just feel as though quite a large portion of the US circuits are quite similar visually. While entirely different in terms of layout, Mid Ohio, Lime Rock, Road America, Watkins Glen, VIR and even the addition of Grand Oak (even though it’s a fantasy circuit, and I don’t think it’s clear where it’s located?’, they all feel like they could just be each other. Maple Valley could even be grouped in together there, even though that’s a bit more cinematic. Its not about the about US heavy track list in particular, Sebring and Daytona are both circuits vastly visually different from the ones.
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This is based on hour of the day, i guess they should focus in a different time of the day
I like the yellow filter in some games tho, like Race Driver Grid, it gives a charm to the game
They will be free, also they said many times that they will add in form in new events for career mode with various types of stuffs as well
In terms of updates i think that will be like this
October - Just cars since its launch month
November- Maybe updated Yas Marina but i think they will bump to 2023
December- Cars
Jan/Feb/March- Daytona and Sebring
April/May - Nord finnaly joins GP
June- Le Mans month (cars)
July - Interlagos (6 hours of SP returns)
Ago - Monza
Setember- Cars
October- Road Atlanta
November - Yas Marina Updated with the new circuit
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In fact they addimited the track was based in VIR, making the first track ever that is based in a another track that is also in the game
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Some of these cuts were well-deserved. Bernese Alps, Prague's track layout, and the Dubai Circuit were awful choices. Top Gear Test Track seems to be a lost cause since we don't have the TG license anymore. The Test Track airfield didn't really serve any purpose because there was no pit lane among other things, being too open. Rio track was visually appealing but had terrible chicanes.
Others are quite a tragedy. No Hockenheimring, no COTA for now, no Long Beach (as it transferred over to Acura, don't know who owns the rights now or it may have been dismantled), and no Monza are a tough act to follow.
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I also dont like Alps, i HATE the fact that they decided to put Alps in the One generation instead of Sunset or Sedona
I think they will alternate with cars only months and track months
They have a good pool fo tracks they can juts update, not counting the new ones and original (non city) tracks that may make a return
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They also didn't have a history of extended development cycles, free content not tied to a promo, DLC packs outside the traditional support period or adding entirely new features post-launch. Those things are now seemingly the new normal, even FM7 got some stuff thrown it's way long after T10 usually stops caring about their releases.
I obviously have no clue what their plans are, but clearly their approach has changed since Gamepass so you really can't go off how they did things in the past.
Also, what is to say those tracks aren't ready right now and they are just holding them back? They already do it with cars so is it really out of the question that they would do the same with tracks?
Seems you're kind of giving T10 a little benefit of the doubt here (while I am not), which I must say I find surprising.
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I appreciate Yas and COTA are important because of their inclusion in real life race series but personally I can wait a long time for them and would rather see tracks like Brands and Panorama moved further up the queue if there is one. Guess it's my Tilke aversion even though I know he worked on Nurb GP and the shorter COTA layouts are pretty fun to race on for me.
Pouring one out for the Road Atlanta bendy man and burger huts 😢
(yes bendy man was in other tracks but he kinda stood out in RA).
Pouring one out for the Road Atlanta bendy man and burger huts 😢
(yes bendy man was in other tracks but he kinda stood out in RA).
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So then i anwser it for you the evo 6 has inaccurate grill headlights are of and looks low res, its the same 3d model going back at least to fm4, so recycled x360 model,
no one in the right mind can say it looks good in 2023 game, its just is not at same standard as the new cars they been adding, the hate its got is more than fair for how bad it looks, they would proably not get that if they just dont keep saying built from the ground up like 100 times
The worst part is that its not even the worst model, silvia s15 and skyline r32 is even worse they are a disaster
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People will never stop driving aggressive in online games with little consequence for crashing, and no track selections will change that. Car selections probably contribute more to wrecking in lobbies anyways, because people who probably can't competently race Miatas will still try to drive GT3 cars because they think they are too cool for slow stuff.
Forza has always been a game that doesn't punish harshly for mistakes, meaning it heavily favors pace over all else with no strategy or punishment for abusing tires and so on. Add in that FM7 had a broken drafting system, and it has pushed the "culture" towards flat out attacking and making aggressive dives, and it will take some time for it to go the other way in FM8 (if it ever does).
Track-wise, Eagle Rock being an oval with a random V chicane in the back straight will very likely not be conducive to good clean racing. Long straight into low speed chicane is a formula that leads to crashes on lots of tracks (hello Monza), dunno why it would work any better on an oval. Plus, depending on how drafting works and what kind of cars you are driving, that will be the only braking point on the track, meaning people will get desperate on the brakes there.
Look at Daytona and Charlotte rovals, the chicanes in the back straight on those also cause some chaos in real life racing and tons of chaos in simracing, even in titles like iRacing that also have a safety rating system, and where your car can actually get totaled and put you out of the race, and you can even get banned if your move is stupid enough.
I think there are 2 main contributing factors to that.
1. It's a pretty straightforward track, so people feel like they have figured it out fairly quickly and it feels "safe" for them, even though T1 will be danger every time. Particularly in sim-ier titles, players are getting more and more risk averse when it comes to car and track selections and they don't really want things that will bite them, and Monza is a track where almost all of the danger comes from other drivers rather than the track itself.
2. It's a very "relevant" track for real-world series and quite prestigious. Basically everything races there, meaning it's a go-to track when running formula cars, multiclass endurance, GT, and touring cars.
It's kind of a weird track for me. For how simple and boring its layout looks, I find it surprisingly engaging to drive. Sure the first chicane sucks, but the second one can be satisfying to get right, and I find the Lesmos are one of most satisfying pairs of corners to nail in the world, particularly compared to how simple they look. Ascari is also actually kinda fun in the right kind of cars, too slow or too much downforce and it's too easy, but in something like GT1 it's also satisfying to get right.
Racing-wise though, I've had some good races there and almost every race I do features a few good battles... but they often only last a couple of laps, as inevitably someone gets punted into one of the chicanes, or someone misses their brakes a tiny bit and goes off track and gets a big slow down/penalty and drops back. It ends up being a bit of a roller-coaster, with some excitement/tension from good battles that becomes disappointment when things space out or I'm the one punted.
Monza was pretty boring in FM7 because of the wank drafting model, but in a game/car with good drafting it can make for very exciting races that become quite tactical. The importance of the draft there can be interesting for qualifying, as well as being a huge part of strategy races, as it's a thirsty track thanks to its high percentage of full throttle. For those reasons, coupled with the new emphasis on strategy in FM8, I would have put Monza higher up the priority list than places like Catalunya or Silverstone that are just kinda... tracks.
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Looking at what's in rather than what's out, I am really happy with Lime Rock Park and Watkins Glen 
Lime Rock is perfect for slightly slower cars and Watkins Glen is simply one of my favourite American tracks full stop.
Homestead on the other hand, I quite like how it looked in Forza 6 and 7 but I never cared too much for it. (And it gives me the feeling that Eaglerock didn't have to be in).
I really hope that some tracks will be added in alignment with big races like having Daytona for the Daytona 24 and Sebring for the 12 Hours and so on.
Lime Rock is perfect for slightly slower cars and Watkins Glen is simply one of my favourite American tracks full stop.Homestead on the other hand, I quite like how it looked in Forza 6 and 7 but I never cared too much for it. (And it gives me the feeling that Eaglerock didn't have to be in).
I really hope that some tracks will be added in alignment with big races like having Daytona for the Daytona 24 and Sebring for the 12 Hours and so on.
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Looking at the Mid Ohio track map from the track reveal, looks as though the small oval shaped layout at the end of the Key will a in game layout. Looking forward to Mid Ohio quite a bit.
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I'll miss Long Beach, but hold out hope that it'll appear later. Was it FM4 where it was a free add-on around the time of the GP?
Also, someone mentioned earlier that Acura "owns" it, which is entirely not accurate. Acura is simply the title sponsor of the IndyCar race. Saturday's feature race is IMSA, which has had a revolving door of title sponsors over the years, from Tequila Patron to Bubba's Burgers
In fact, I tend to see Xbox advertising around the track while I'm down there as well.
Also, someone mentioned earlier that Acura "owns" it, which is entirely not accurate. Acura is simply the title sponsor of the IndyCar race. Saturday's feature race is IMSA, which has had a revolving door of title sponsors over the years, from Tequila Patron to Bubba's Burgers
In fact, I tend to see Xbox advertising around the track while I'm down there as well.
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Couldn’t agree more. Personally can’t stand this current trend of over-warm colour filters they keep applying on games. Same issue with F1 23. The less yellow screenshots you’ve posted look way better to me. I already have the colour set to warm on my Samsung tv so don’t need it to be even more yellow than it should be.They need to get that yellow filter out ASAP. Just look how much better it looks with the correct white balance.
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