Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

[skazz]

They already are begging for more GT3 cars also for WEC Hypercars even if Motorsport Games seems to have the excluvity of the series


I undestand their concern tho, NASCAR seems that will also be missing for quite some time thanks to exclusivity, i wish the Gen 4 cars that were in FM3 and FM4 would show up again, but that seems that is also seems unlikely, inless they show up in the final (circa) 50 cars

It would be a big shame if we only got a couple of GT3s not the rest, but then again GT3s are best in a field of pure GT3 cars, so if they can't get 8-10 different modern GT3 models there's not much point.

I would also love it if we got enough cars from the various important modern racing series to create classes specifically just for them, but I doubt it'll happen. And besides, when it comes to GT4 and GT3 ACC has pretty much everything, plays great on the Series X and PS5, and also plays very nicely with controller.

 

[TheOE]

If you want to know, which cars are in the game, might be coming or will be cut, this is the absolute best Forza car list made by ManteoMax:

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When you go to Data > Filtered View you can add your own temporary filter to find out tons of interesting things

 

[mynameis66]

I fear it may not show up after the mess that was the Auction House in FH5
Also cars will be in career mode anyways

I agree what you say about the auction house.When they add the cars each month in FH5,I sometimes struggle with some of the championship races so have to resort to the auction house to be able to get them,also I dont always have a lot of time to game so I have to pick my moments.Hopefully any new cars wont be lockedbehind a similair idea.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I'm loving the amount of more "normal" and affordable cars in the game, reminds me of FM4 big time.

Yep, and I couldn't be more happier after you've mentioned that! I feel the progression from both FM3 & 4 may truly back in this FM with all those hatches we're getting.

 

[meganinja]

truly back in this FM with all those hatches we're getting

Hopefuly more cars like that show up
But first we need vote more for those cars in forums and make clear we want those cars beacuse "We WaNt Gt3 We WaNt PrOtOtYpEs" crowd is also start to getting loud

 

[RolexGTP]

I think we are due for more GT and Prototype cars than regular hatches and sports cars. The roster of cars seems outdated in terms of race cars, its 2023 and theres a ton of cars from roughly 10 years ago.

 

[nukleabomb]

, its 2023 and theres a ton of cars from roughly 10 years ago.

don't knock on the old cars. let them stay.

 

[skazz]

In case you weren't aware, GT3 had a massive regulations change in 2019, and all older cars were de-homologated. I do wonder if post-2019 GT3 cars are harder to license, maybe due to ACC?

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

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Back on my subject about Turn 10's hatchback post. I love the addition of these hot hatches, but I hope for dlc that Turn 10 adds a few more newer bigger and smaller hatchbacks. I really would love to see the 2010s VW Polo GTI be added for instance, the Mk.8 Fiesta ST, the Mk.4 Focus ST, Mazda 3 Turbo, Peugeot 208 GTI, 2020s Peugeot 308 GTI, and 2020s Audi RS3 Sportback.

don't knock on the old cars. let them stay.

He's just making a point that there's certain racing categories not updated in a while, not complaining that those exist.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Hopefuly more cars like that show up
But first we need vote more for those cars in forums and make clear we want those cars beacuse "We WaNt Gt3 We WaNt PrOtOtYpEs" crowd is also start to getting loud

I feel the amount of road cars and race cars we are getting at launch is quite balanced (much like FM1). Now I could only hope for a balanced series of cars that will get added post launch. We really don't need another FM7 DLC strategy tbh, as it was a mix bag. Cars like the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio were suited for track racing. But others like the Nissan Safari Turbo did not belong there since FM doesn't feature offroad racing (and for good reason too, because Horizon exists).

 

[syphe]

I just caught up on the Event Lab 2.0 trailer on YouTube, I wonder if the island sandbox they showed is maybe a sign they can port this over to motorsport, would be huge if true

 

[FordGTGuy]

I just caught up on the Event Lab 2.0 trailer on YouTube, I wonder if the island sandbox they showed is maybe a sign they can port this over to motorsport, would be huge if true

Exactly what I was thinking as well.

I would like to see the size of the area increased though; maybe around 25 km squared instead of just 4 km squared.

We can create our own Texas Mile speed runs with the 4 km squared area though.

You guys remember the Test Track Oval from Forza Motorsport 1?

 

[RolexGTP]

don't knock on the old cars. let them stay.

Oh no im not knocking them at all, i appreciate them but why not include at least a few newbies in each racing division to not make things look so outdated, if that makes sense. Especially since this game has been 6 years in the making and it is after all a new game.

 

[BOK]

Surely you dont think the FH5 version is shocking?
On a separate note,I wonder if the auction house will return,I dont thinks theres been any mention of it in the released vids yet.Maybe mondays video will tie up all the loose ends.
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The FH5 version is the same model as every other forza just with updated materials, it’s terrible. the front end isn’t even close, way too rounded and slopped back. The overall silhouette isn’t accurate either, the proportion are off and the wheels… yikes. It’s not the end of the world but yeah I’m passionate about GTRs and that model I am personally offended by 😆

 

[skazz]

Well FH5 Eventlab already had tarmac parts and coloured strips. They added new rumble strips in the update as well as improvements to getting the track tiles smoothly fitted together, which will hopefully all make circuit creation more feasible.

Also the 2km x 2km base can be expanded in blocks of 500m x 500m, according to what I saw. Not sure how big you can make it though, we'll have to wait and see.

 

[UKMikey]

Well FH5 Eventlab already had tarmac parts and coloured strips. They added new rumble strips in the update as well as improvements to getting the track tiles smoothly fitted together, which will hopefully all make circuit creation more feasible.

Also the 2km x 2km base can be expanded in blocks of 500m x 500m, according to what I saw. Not sure how big you can make it though, we'll have to wait and see.

Can you make hilly tracks which undulate up and down? It all looks kinda flat so far.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I just caught up on the Event Lab 2.0 trailer on YouTube, I wonder if the island sandbox they showed is maybe a sign they can port this over to motorsport, would be huge if true

I'm totally in the same camp of having eventlab come to Motorsport. Can you imagine the kind of tracks with an island size @skazz mentioned? 500m x 500m. FM23 will literally be another Assetto Corsa on PC where you can create hundreds of tracks and share them with the community! Ohh the possiblities!

 

[skazz]

Can you make hilly tracks which undulate up and down? It all looks kinda flat so far.

You can place an object at any angle you like and it doesn't have to even touch the ground. Just think about all the Eventlabs you've played so far, many of which are jutting out from the top of the volcano far away from the ground....

The only trouble is making the ground around the track look reasonable I guess.

 

[UKMikey]

You can place an object at any angle you like and it doesn't have to even touch the ground. Just think about all the Eventlabs you've played so far, many of which are jutting out from the top of the volcano far away from the ground....

The only trouble is making the ground around the track look reasonable I guess.

It sounds like the island will be great for urban cityscapes and racetracks. Rural looking rally stages I'm not so sure. Had I the skills I'd like to clone a grass tile into a giant contoured deformable mesh and add hills, trees, rocks and a dirt track.

Darn it, I'm posting Horizon discussion in the FM thread and WRC content in the Horizon thread. I hope nobody brings up Motorfest or Starfield or it'll be an even bigger mess.

 

[FordGTGuy]

It sounds like the island will be great for urban cityscapes and racetracks. Rural looking rally stages I'm not so sure. Had I the skills I'd like to clone a grass tile into a giant contoured deformable mesh and add hills, trees, rocks and a dirt track.

Darn it, I'm posting Horizon discussion in the FM thread and WRC content in the Horizon thread. I hope nobody brings up Motorfest or Starfield or it'll be an even bigger mess.

They could always add multiple islands with different surface types.

 

[meganinja]

maybe due to ACC

I heared that ACC was with some exclusivity deals but then there is iRacing adding some GT cars laterly so i have no idea what is going on

I just caught up on the Event Lab 2.0 trailer on YouTube, I wonder if the island sandbox they showed is maybe a sign they can port this over to motorsport, would be huge if true

Exactly what I was thinking as well.

I would like to see the size of the area increased though; maybe around 25 km squared instead of just 4 km squared.

As much i like (and use) eventslab, i dont think that, as it is, would fit well for motorsport
As i said before, a GT6-like track creation tool would be better for Motorsport than FH5´s EventLab

 

[Johnny Caisse]

Will the liveries from Forza Horizon 5 and Forza Motorsport 7 be importable into Forza Motorsport 2023? I'm quite fond of my super cute Catporeon design I made in Forza Horizon 5. I use the meow horn with it. 🐱

 

[UKMikey]

Will the liveries from Forza Horizon 5 and Forza Motorsport 7 be importable into Forza Motorsport 2023? I'm quite fond of my super cute Catporeon design I made in Forza Horizon 5. I use the meow horn with it. 🐱

I'm pretty sure the tunes were transferrable in previous versions. In an ideal world they could make both crossover provided cars in each game have the same set of parts.

 

[Morbid65]

In case you weren't aware, GT3 had a massive regulations change in 2019, and all older cars were de-homologated. I do wonder if post-2019 GT3 cars are harder to license, maybe due to ACC?

Huh? No there wasn't, and several pre-2019 cars are still homologated. Some like the Bentley aren't really running because the manufacturer support ended, and some have been replaced by a newer model like the 488, but some are still running like the Lexus and Acura/Honda NSX. Evo kits sometimes refresh homologation dates, and significant re-engineering always needs to be re-homologated (like Lexus in 2017 and Nissan in... 2018? I think it was) as far as I know.

Will the liveries from Forza Horizon 5 and Forza Motorsport 7 be importable into Forza Motorsport 2023? I'm quite fond of my super cute Catporeon design I made in Forza Horizon 5. I use the meow horn with it. 🐱

This is a question I'd really like to see them answer sooner rather than later, so we can get ready for the move. I have a ton of vinyls made but should probably re-organize some of them into groups if we can carry them over.

The fact they haven't told us would normally make me assume we can't but... they haven't said anything about the paint shop at all that I can remember, so there's some hope that it will be addressed when (if?) they talk about the paint stuff.

Tunes I doubt we will see transfer over though, with all the physics updates most of them would be pretty useless anyways I think.

As much i like (and use) eventslab, i dont think that, as it is, would fit well for motorsport
As i said before, a GT6-like track creation tool would be better for Motorsport than FH5´s EventLab

Agree here. In a casual screw around game like Horizon, all the flaws and stuff in the EventLab tracks where things aren't smooth or aligned perfectly aren't as much of a big deal, but in a game like FM8 those details would be much more problematic, particularly when you add in damage.

Also I think performance would be a big concern. Yeah sure FM8 won't have the problem that FH5 has where some older consoles can use it and framerate is awful on XB1 for some of the tracks, but with new physics with lots more calculations and all the other graphical stuff, I'm not sure how it would handle people building entire cities and stacking tons of layers trying to smooth out transitions and a bunch of new lights and all that stuff we see regularly in FH5 EventLab things.

 

[Beebo]

I am also eager to hear about the livery editor, just very much hoping we can port our liveries and vinyls over!

 

[PJTierney]

Will the liveries from Forza Horizon 5 and Forza Motorsport 7 be importable into Forza Motorsport 2023? I'm quite fond of my super cute Catporeon design I made in Forza Horizon 5. I use the meow horn with it. 🐱

Turn 10 haven’t confirmed that yet.

I am hoping importing is possible.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Turn 10 haven’t confirmed that yet.

I am hoping importing is possible.

Same, not for my liveries, but for yours 😅.

 

[meganinja]

i am more curious if they will bring new paint features, GT has updated a lot since FM4 and Forza has stayed mostly the same, even have the same MSN logo since xbox 360

 

[MS8]

Yes, new paint features, tire lettering and racing banner on all cars. Would be very welcome.

 

[DG_Silva]

FH5 brought in the ability to add masking layers, as well as some flipping of layers and other controls, so there's no reason not to carry over.