Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

[SU_Tempest]

I’m surprised a Mazda MX-5 isn’t one of the starter cars, that’s the quintessential beginner race car right there.

I guess the tradition I set for myself will have to continue. The first car I bought on the Autoshow in FH4 and FH5 the first chance I got was the NA Miata. I hope that'll be immediately available to buy after the starter car here too.

 

[deththrasher]

I’m surprised a Mazda MX-5 isn’t one of the starter cars, that’s the quintessential beginner race car right there.

It's probably just too slow for what they want as a starter car nowadays

 

[Stupornaut]

It's probably just too slow for what they want as a starter car nowadays

I think it might be more because T10 wanted to give people a choice between AWD/FWD/RWD, and the MX-5 is the latter, meaning they'd have a starting lineup with all Japanese cars. (I'm surprised they didn't actually take the opportunity to make the FWD car a Mini JCW GP or a Renault Clio RS instead of a Civic so we could have all three major regions represented.)

 

[meganinja]

This Japanese really liked the gameplay. Haha.

He says that the tire simulation is REALLY realistic and feel impressed with it (I know a bit of time of Japanese too lol)

 

[The_Greaser]

I seriously hate unicorn cars so bad.

I missed out on so many of those cars because of this bs.

The problem was the forza forums justifying this bs. I posted about how unfair unicorn cars as not all of us play online or do competitions instead people at the official forums constantly insulted people like us.

I fully agree. FH1 had the worst examples, including one unloved MINI JCW Coupe we didn't even know existed. AI was using it a lot, can't buy it and worst of all, it never appeared in any other Forza game. And because all the servers are gone it's lost forever. Others included the '09 Fiesta, MX-5 Superlight, Elan, and the Dino.

Sadly they were also in FM6 with the 312PB, and the (shudder) '77 Vantage. The latter had a Brands Hatch rivals event with the RR Wraith... and predictably... very few people beat Triton's time. Not even JPinto got it which explains why the Vantage entry in FM6 on IGCD is the very promo pic. Happily, both of them are in FM7.

And yes, I hate people who constantly defend some flaws with a game. I think they're called simps afaik. SoftdrinkTV did a piece about the Madden kind on one of his videos (good ones to be exact).

 

[SestoScudo]

I fully agree. FH1 had the worst examples, including one unloved MINI JCW Coupe we didn't even know existed. AI was using it a lot, can't buy it and worst of all, it never appeared in any other Forza game. And because all the servers are gone it's lost forever. Others included the '09 Fiesta, MX-5 Superlight, Elan, and the Dino.

Sadly they were also in FM6 with the 312PB, and the (shudder) '77 Vantage. The latter had a Brands Hatch rivals event with the RR Wraith... and predictably... very few people beat Triton's time. Not even JPinto got it which explains why the Vantage entry in FM6 on IGCD is the very promo pic. Happily, both of them are in FM7.

And yes, I hate people who constantly defend some flaws with a game. I think they're called simps afaik. SoftdrinkTV did a piece about the Madden kind on one of his videos (good ones to be exact).

JPinto I remember him from Forza Central.

Damn time flies!

 

[AMR Matthijs]

Sadly they were also in FM6 with the 312PB, and the (shudder) '77 Vantage. The latter had a Brands Hatch rivals event with the RR Wraith... and predictably... very few people beat Triton's time. Not even JPinto got it which explains why the Vantage entry in FM6 on IGCD is the very promo pic. Happily, both of them are in FM7.

That challenge was so hard. I think I never put as much effort into Forza as during that Rivals event. And I managed to get the Vantage. And to be honest, it felt good to be rewarded with a special car (and I absolutely love Aston Martin).

But I fully agree with you that unicorns are bad. They could have made this '77 V8 Vantage a limited time exclusive for winners (like a month or so, or perhaps a bit more). For this reason, I think that in Horizon they should add Playlist cars to the Autoshow after 6 months or a year.

JPinto I remember him from Forza Central.

Damn time flies!

Same here! The days on Forza Central were definitely great, a very nice positive environment

 

[syphe]

I have mixed feelings on what i have seen, and it has not changed much for me even with previews i have looked at, i Know i have put a lot of rants at this game already i will not take up talk about car models becouse i have already done that,

i do like the idea of builder cup and car progression, what i think is a problem with car levels is that you have to level up all over again if you buy a duplicate car, this in my opinion needs to go away, starter cars was to extreme for my liking would have prefer much lower starter cars and series, witch ruins just a bit for me in terms of progression, forza aero and forza wing still looks to be a tad disapointing at this point this needs a completly oberhoul but it dosent seem to be the case at all, i still do think this can be great and enjoyable game but wont be able to take part of it until next year, and right now i dont want to spend $600 on xbox series x from what has been showcased to just play one game, its very strange but the hype is just not there for me, dont get me wrong i do love both forza and gran turism,

When it becomes a financial decision like that, the yeah, wait for release and see what the community feeling is, I wouldn't say wait for reviews because with a niche game like this I feel the reviews don't really tell much of the story, it's more about community engagement after release.

For me I've had a series X since release, been on gamepass since, and also have my simrig on a PC, so the cost of entry for me is nil. The good thing is that the cost of entry is still pretty low if you have to buy hardware, with series S consoles being sold pretty cheap, at which point a single month of gamepass will at least let you trial the game before dumping full price on it

 

[deththrasher]

I hope we get PC footage soon, though I heard rtgi isn't even there at launch so maybe there won't be much improvement over series x for now.

 

[turk1993]

I hope we get PC footage soon, though I heard rtgi isn't even there at launch so maybe there won't be much improvement over series x for now.

Better iq, better reflections, better shadows, better draw distance, better motion blur and better ao is what i expect at launch.

 

[FordGTGuy]

He says that the tire simulation is REALLY realistic and feel impressed with it (I know a bit of time of Japanese too lol)

If you turn on CC/Subtitles and go to settings, you can enable auto-translating to English.

He seemed pretty excited over how realistic the tire traction felt.

Same here! The days on Forza Central were definitely great, a very nice positive environment

Forza Central domain is actually still claimed and owned for whatever reason.

 

[RageRacer]

JPinto I remember him from Forza Central.

Damn time flies!

I'm also from that forum aswell. ForzaCentral was a great place.

Speaking of unicorn cars (Which I also hate btw) and seeing the RX-7 Spirit R no longer being one, I would love to see just a few to come back such as the HKS Time Attack Evo CT230R, Top Secret Supra and Silvia.....And of course, the one I never ever drove but I wish I did, the Subaru S204. That car should come back.

 

[Vince_GT]

I Was from that forum too (Vince_Faro). ForzaCentral was my pleasure community to talk about Forza. Missing that times!
Anyway, glad I'm not the only one who hated the Unicorn system. I was capable only to get some of those in FM4 days...

 

[JPinto]

I suspect most Forzacentral users ended up in here, myself included of course. I really miss Badned's teasers, and the small community we build there, but anyway.

Regarding unicorns, I would prefer a Horizon approach sort to say, if you want a special/new/exclusive car, earn points, do a couple of things...but not in the traditional way. As stated, the Vantage back in FM6 was plain cruel, and before that, annoying to say the least (In FM2 I could only get the cover 350Z after the devs offered one, and just one of all the available unicorns, I think I also got the Evo TME...and that's about it. FM4? Had to buy redeemable cars for the new-exclusive cars depending on where you got the car, such as the 1M Coupé, Alfa Giulietta, Honda CR-Z...not exactly unicorns as the others, but were definitely hard to get by without doing that) so yeah, let's please keep thing simple from now on...

 

[skazz]

In FH4 it was preorder cars as unicorns... Argh

 

[Morbid65]

I used to run my very first league from the ForzaCentral forums back on FM1, and the league I currently run also started there, but I wasn't a part of it until FM3. After FM2 days I wasn't a frequent poster at all though and only started being more active again a little bit before it shut down, although it was pretty dead by then (or at least was in the sections I visited).

Sadly they were also in FM6 with the 312PB, and the (shudder) '77 Vantage. The latter had a Brands Hatch rivals event with the RR Wraith... and predictably... very few people beat Triton's time. Not even JPinto got it which explains why the Vantage entry in FM6 on IGCD is the very promo pic. Happily, both of them are in FM7.

There was also the Opel Manta. Can't remember if it was something to do with that ForzaRC thing where you could also win the DLC codes, or if it was just a general Rivals thing though.

FM7 sorta had one too, with the MGA. For a long time was only available once through one of those "Bounty Hunter" Rivals events. The target was pretty easy though, but it was still time sensitive. They did eventually bring it back like... 6 months ago or something? For another Rivals event, so once again time limited.

Add me to the list that hate "unicorn" cars.

 

[sirjim73]

I used to run my very first league from the ForzaCentral forums back on FM1, and the league I currently run also started there, but I wasn't a part of it until FM3. After FM2 days I wasn't a frequent poster at all though and only started being more active again a little bit before it shut down, although it was pretty dead by then (or at least was in the sections I visited).


There was also the Opel Manta. Can't remember if it was something to do with that ForzaRC thing where you could also win the DLC codes, or if it was just a general Rivals thing though.

FM7 sorta had one too, with the MGA. For a long time was only available once through one of those "Bounty Hunter" Rivals events. The target was pretty easy though, but it was still time sensitive. They did eventually bring back like... 6 months ago or something? For another Rivals event, so once again time limited.

Add me to the list that hate "unicorn" cars.

I bought my Xbox and FM7 after the Bounty Hunter event. The MGA has appeared twice in the Rivals events, so I've got two of them in the garage. I've kept one stock.

What I found annoying with FH4 and FH5 is not knowing what they are going to do until the last minute. In FH4 we were given the Backstage Passes out of the blue. We still don't know their plans for the playlist "unicorns" in FH5.

I get that they need people to log on every week for "engagement". I'm another person who thinks time limited exclusivity is a sensible trade off (may be 6 months or a year before adding the car to the Autoshow). They could announce that up front and 99% of people would still log on to earn the car, I believe.

It sounds like the approach for FM23 will be better with new race/group of races added tailored to a new car, as a sort of "playlist". I don't think we know when and how often that will happen unless I've missed it? Some of the plans post launch still seem a bit vague to me other than the 30 weeks of car pass cars and the general statement that cars will come via Builders Cup events?

PS It's really close to launch now isn't it, it's kinda crept up on me...

 

[meganinja]

Honda CR-Z

God i wanted to see CR-Z back, is so underrated that the Street CR-Z isnt even on vote forums yet
i had posted a recommend few hours ago, lets see if they add

 

[SestoScudo]

I suspect most Forzacentral users ended up in here, myself included of course. I really miss Badned's teasers, and the small community we build there, but anyway.

Regarding unicorns, I would prefer a Horizon approach sort to say, if you want a special/new/exclusive car, earn points, do a couple of things...but not in the traditional way. As stated, the Vantage back in FM6 was plain cruel, and before that, annoying to say the least (In FM2 I could only get the cover 350Z after the devs offered one, and just one of all the available unicorns, I think I also got the Evo TME...and that's about it. FM4? Had to buy redeemable cars for the new-exclusive cars depending on where you got the car, such as the 1M Coupé, Alfa Giulietta, Honda CR-Z...not exactly unicorns as the others, but were definitely hard to get by without doing that) so yeah, let's please keep thing simple from now on...

So good to see Forza Central members.

Good old times.

But now lets hope this new Forza Motorsport can bring people back.

 

[mikejones1]

Another thing to think about,this preview build may have been offering these 3 cars specifically to show off the game,as opposed to a lower,slower car.The released game may well be slightly different in terms of starter cars,it may not be but its something to consider.
Im really looking forward to release day with what ive seen so far.

I can guarantee they won't be changing the cars/tracks for the Builders Cup Intro. Too far along in development and the first hour of gameplay is so important for them to keep Game Pass players playing.

 

[meganinja]

I can guarantee they won't be changing the cars/tracks for the Builders Cup Intro. Too far along in development and the first hour of gameplay is so important for them to keep Game Pass players playing.

Execpt they said that said that was a old bulid and cars were missing, that makes me think that some aspects of it will be changed
But probally the intro with the E-Ray and the Caddy LMDh will continue since they are cover cars

 

[Stang616]

Ah, ForzaCentral. I was there as well, active here and on the official forums. I'm glad I don't have to juggle all three anymore, but I do miss ForzaCentral.

Unicorn cars, oof, I think I managed to get the majority of the across all the games, but I'm not a fan of them coming back at all. I'd rather just have them available through normal means, be it playlist or Autoshow.

I'm hoping what they said about adding new cars to FM through permanent events in the Builder's Cup is true since I probably won't be getting a Series X in time for launch.

 

[McLaren]

Forza Central domain is actually still claimed and owned for whatever reason.

Wonder if Black still has any sort of claim to it.

I suspect most Forzacentral users ended up in here, myself included of course. I really miss Badned's teasers, and the small community we build there, but anyway.

Shame that BADNED basically just disappeared off the web under that name. But, guy also had a lot of insider knowledge at the time.

 

[SestoScudo]

Wonder if Black still has any sort of claim to it.

Shame that BADNED basically just disappeared off the web under that name. But, guy also had a lot of insider knowledge at the time.

I constantly refreshed Forza Central just so I can see BADNED posting.

I went by the name LamboFerrari(Cringy I know).

Good to see Forza Central Members here. I just hope this new Forza can bring that magic. Man we are all getting old.

 

[Terronium-12]

I went by the name LamboFerrari(Cringy I know).

That was you?

I don't remember my name there. Renown? I don't believe it was T-12, or maybe it was? Again, I don't remember...

 

[SestoScudo]

That was you?

I don't remember my name there. Renown? I don't believe it was T-12, or maybe it was? Again, I don't remember...

For Gt planet I was going name myself LamboFerrari but somehow SestoScudo appealed to me.

Italian language in general has lots of appealing words.

 

[UKMikey]

He says that the tire simulation is REALLY realistic and feel impressed with it (I know a bit of time of Japanese too lol)

I like that he could tell what kind of tyre it was (radial) from its behaviour when he tested the limits. Sounded like he had a great time if I'm reading the captions correctly.

For me I've had a series X since release, been on gamepass since, and also have my simrig on a PC, so the cost of entry for me is nil. The good thing is that the cost of entry is still pretty low if you have to buy hardware, with series S consoles being sold pretty cheap, at which point a single month of gamepass will at least let you trial the game before dumping full price on it

It certainly sounds like the cost of entry is a lot lower than that of a PS5 and PSVR2 which he and a few others are saying is the minimum setup required to enjoy GT7.

 

[mynameis66]

I can guarantee they won't be changing the cars/tracks for the Builders Cup Intro. Too far along in development and the first hour of gameplay is so important for them to keep Game Pass players playing.

I dont mean the whole intro,just the car selection.Maybe for a lower class car,I dont know just a thought

 

[AttackDickie]

I'm still confused by events being locked until you've completed previous ones (from what we've seen), seems to go against people having their favourite cars if those events are locked. Like there's an MX-5 one, so I hope that if you have the right car events unlock. But Dan saying he likes having a set path, scares me. Maybe you always get to pick a free car? Hopefully, there are class-based events too.

 

[RolexGTP]

I wonder how many events total is in the game. Iirc fm4 had like 400 events I wonder if this game is in the hundreds as well, I like a lengthy game.