Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

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Being a legend does not make your opinion absolute or that the game should be designed around your opinion.

They built this upgrading system based on the statistics or how people actually play the game, generally people use 10 or so cars.

I've been playing Forza since day one of the original Forza Motorsport; I don't expect the game to be built around me or what I want. You'll find quite a few veterans of the series that have been around since then.

The opinion of those I've talked to is back and forth on the upgrade system but they really like the game.
I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, but like, the upgrade system we have in FM2023 addresses a problem that never existed.
 
I do wonder whether free cars will be also tailored to draw in Gamepass users or aimed at pleasing car fans.

Also we don't know yet how the free cars will be done, especially when new tracks arrive.
  • Maybe each new track will be the highlight of not just 1x 5 race event, but an entire multi event series? i.e. 25 races added to career mode with each new track rather than just a couple.
  • Cars might be themed to the track, or they might be coming with a completely different focus. Who knows?
 
Moving back to content for a minute....

I have a feeling that there are some real differences between PC and Xbox Series X, and wonder if you guys see it too:
1. The clouds/skybox looks slightly higher resolution on PC than on XSX
2. The grass textures look slightly higher resolution on the XSX than PC (although the lack of 3d grass as a whole is very disappointing when coming from the wonders of 3d grass in FH4 and FH5)

I wonder if this is deliberate or if things will be changed in forthcoming patches?
Yeah this is accurate, and is pretty standard stuff. PC will always have superior graphics just on account of the much faster hardware. I am playing on both PC and Xbox Series X, and the differences in graphic fidelity are pretty obvious between the two.
 
I wish there was a way to share my saved replays to non players without a capture device. I managed to finish a race with level 5 AI starting from position 14 without being brake checked or rammed and none of the AI drove off track or were so far ahead I couldn't catch up with them by driving hard. The P1 battle in the final lap was a last minute inside pass which nearly didn't come off. It's too bad this experience doesn't seem to be typical for most people who've posted about it here, though.

I invite anyone who's interested to search for it in the game under my gamertag UKMikeyA, it's shared under the name 911@TheGlen. I'll see if I can capture the last few minutes using the console's DVR if I can.
I managed to get the start of the race and the last thirty seconds or so. I'm sure this is by no means typical for many users (although I think most of my races have been like this) but even this launch AI seems to be capable of okay driving without piling up, arseramming or driving off track.


I don't think I could have made this P1 overtake using the old physics:

 
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It's funny seeing all of the people compare this to Forza Motorsport 4, considering if the game was an exact copy of said game there would be even more complaints about Forza being the exact same as a previous title.

I will say that I do agree with Don's point about the leveling system, I feel like we should atleast be able to transfer points from one car to another as there are some cars I am essentially forced to use in Career mode that I have 0 desire to use after the said races that have over 1000 points that would be better suited to a car that I actually want to tune. That alone would free up alot of the complaints as you would still have to work for the points but atleast it will make it easier to build cars.
Not really, Forza 4 was perfect. I would gladly take the exact same game with more tracks, cars, better physics, and improved graphics. But leave everything else the same. Madden does this every single year and its consistently in the top 3 best selling games every single year. So people really don't care about copy/pasted sequels.

We have verifiable proof that trying to change the formula every time isn't working, it's called Forza Motorsport 5 through 2023.
 
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Not really, Forza 4 was perfect. I would gladly take the exact same game with more tracks, cars, better physics, and improved graphics. But leave everything else the same. Madden does this every single year and its consistently in the top 3 best selling games every single year. So people really don't care about copy/pasted sequels.
FM4 was definitely not perfect for me. After all, it's a mess of jaggies at 1080p, has a very old car list missing the last 15 years of cars, and the physics and driving experience of modern games have come a long way.

It was good fun for its time, sure, and had a huge career mode. But for example those races which required you to drive fast GT cars or Prototypes were really annoying due to how stupidly oversteery they were. FM2023 actually does aero quite well, unlike earlier games in the series.


So yeah, I personally disagree with your opinion there. Not that FM2023 is perfect by any means, and the single player career mode is clearly intended to be updated weekly whereas FM4 was completely static post-launch, but a few FM4 features being superior doesn't mean it was the better game.
 
I just saw this despicable... thing.
Get used lol, itashas/anime cars are very popular (included by me lol)

I assume they will add new events with Motorsport cars in the Featured category over time though.
I think they will add more events/career campaings to single player mode, not just the featured ones

FM6 had it with DLCs that gave you new events, i think they will do that, but for Free

forced practice laps instead of qualifying
Actually the pratice laps are suposed to be pratice, as pratice, it also have in multiplayer as well
Not really, Forza 4 was perfect. I would gladly take the exact same game with more tracks, cars, better physics, and improved graphics. But leave everything else the same.
As much i like FM4, it has its share of problems
Not just the graphic, but it has a lack of dynamic time of the day, dinamic weather, lack of soft/medium/hard tires, lack of competitve multiplayer that reward good drivers, lack of a multiplayter that punish bad drivers and lack of a option for customize driver, among others.


All of those i cited has in the new game but doesnt have in FM4, as much i like, and i know most do, we need take the nostalgia glasses off
 
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Not really, Forza 4 was perfect. I would gladly take the exact same game with more tracks, cars, better physics, and improved graphics. But leave everything else the same. Madden does this every single year and its consistently in the top 3 best selling games every single year. So people really don't care about copy/pasted sequels.

We have verifiable proof that trying to change the formula every time isn't working, it's called Forza Motorsport 5 through 2023.
I'm not sure if other sports titles are the best example to use here.

Although they sell well b/c of their online, sports games tend to catch a ton of flack if they don't try do something different each year for offline users. 2K is notorious for selling well, yet its MyLeague only sees noticeable updates every 2-3 titles, and I say this as a massive 2K NBA fan.
 
For the multiple issues I have with the game (mainly QOL), I do really love how the cars feel. It’s so much more enjoyable than previous Forzas. You can really find a limit and push to it predictably, rather than the car just breaking into a mid corner slide like the previous games. Sense of speed feels much higher too.
 
As much i like FM4, it has its share of problems
Not just the graphic, but it has a lack of dynamic time of the day, dinamic weather, lack of soft/medium/hard tires, lack of competitve multiplayer that reward good drivers, lack of a multiplayter that punish bad drivers and lack of a option for customize driver

All of those i cited has in the new game but doesnt have in FM4, as much i like, and i know most do, we need take the nostalgia glasses off
You didn't understand my post at all. I'm not saying don't add new features, i'm saying that turn-10 needs to stop reworking already existing features that worked extremely well and fans really enjoyed.
 
You didn't understand my post at all. I'm not saying don't add new features, i'm saying that turn-10 needs to stop reworking already existing features that worked extremely well and fans really enjoyed.
Mate, you did say that? You said beyond more tracks & cars, alongside better physics & graphics, to leave everything else the same. That can be implied as not adding anything that results in change. :confused:
 
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You didn't understand my post at all. I'm not saying don't add new features, i'm saying that turn-10 needs to stop reworking already existing features that worked extremely well and fans really enjoyed.
It's easy to misunderstand a post which says a game is perfect. If it's perfect it doesn't need new features like dynamic time of day or weather.

[EDIT] Pooping everybody who doesn't agree with you doesn't change the above. That's why my sig exists.
 
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Mate, you did say that? You said beyond more tracks & cars, alongside better physics & graphics, to leave everything else the same. That can be implied as not adding anything that results in change. :confused:
This is what i got too just a remaster instead of a new game with new stuffs
Also the poop emoji is NOT a "i dont agree" button , stop putting it in every comment you disagree
 
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i really despise ar12gaming and the effect him and other content creators have had on the wider forza community. get's to be part of the forza creator program and openly puts out content on how to game the current level system instead of asking for reasonable comprimises. what a scumbag
 
The one thing I do agree with is that regardless of how many times you buy the same car whatever upgrades you've earned should transfer over.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a steering wheel for Xbox?

I have a CSL DD pro and I'm forced to use my old McLaren GT3 wheel and none of the extra buttons are mapping, probably because it's an older wheel.

Worse than the lack of mapping is the fact that the paddle shifter is horrible. It's one bar across the top so when you depress up shift the paddle on the left also moves and I don't know what the paddles on the bottom do but I hit those way too many times by mistake.

Get a Xbox universal hub with a D shape wheel. I have one and it’s great.

Anybody running bass shakers, Simhub has a configuration for them. Just download the latest version.
 
i really despise ar12gaming and the effect him and other content creators have had on the wider forza community. get's to be part of the forza creator program and openly puts out content on how to game the current level system instead of asking for reasonable comprimises. what a scumbag
I Really dont like him as well, the funniest thing about his hate for the new system was that he litteraly did the video version of "I wanted but i dont wanted this way" when he had captialize for the crituques for the lack of any type of progression in FH5 HAD FOR YEARS

Also he and some others are the core reason of FH5 pushing for more exotic/hyper/dupercars and driftiging than any other thing
Its clear that they dont care at all for what both made FM4 and the new FM great.

AR12 and BlackPantha are perfect for Crew Motorfest.
BlackPantha said that if EA Stops making NFS he will quite making racing videos, PLEASE DO IT EA PLEASE
 
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Forza Motorsport 4 wasn't perfect at all with how cars drove and its lack of variable time/weather. FM4 didn't have have night racing, you just had daytime and sunset or dawn.

However, I have to agree with others that it indeed did some things way better than the games that came after it. Like its career mode length, event variety, and how it made use of most every car in the game aswell.

I don't mind Turn 10 wanting to the change the formula of its career mode as that's what they've been doing since the start. Somethings would stay similar with how each career mode worked, mainly the start from the bottom and move to the top, but it was typically done in a different way each time.

FM8's career mode is going a good direction over FM7's with the race leagues I see, my only issue is that there seems to be not enough events and the variety excluded race cars to only save them for post-launch content. Yes, FM8 is going to be a game that'll be continuously supported with events and I'll probably eventually see the event count rivaling what FM4 had.

However, my point is that it feels like they could've added more events now and just chose not to.
 
For anyone having problems getting Premium rewards:

The reason is because they changed how it works.
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Not really, Forza 4 was perfect. I would gladly take the exact same game with more tracks, cars, better physics, and improved graphics. But leave everything else the same. Madden does this every single year and its consistently in the top 3 best selling games every single year. So people really don't care about copy/pasted sequels.

We have verifiable proof that trying to change the formula every time isn't working, it's called Forza Motorsport 5 through 2023.
I love FM4 highly, but it definitely was not perfect; it's probably the best all-round package we've gotten out of a Forza game but it isn't perfect. No night races for one. It's easy to look back with nostalgia on your favorite game and think it's perfect and admittedly I've even done the same thing sometimes. Next time you boot up FM4 though, please obliterate M. Rossi for me.
 
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Suzuka Circuit is just a reskin of what we saw in Forza 4. I thought the old tracks were remade for this game.
 
Disappointing that the final Car Pass car of the month is the 2020 BMW M2. While not exactly the M2 we’ve had for years, it’s basically the same. Annoying that it’s apart of the Car Pass when the newer generation of M2 just came to Horizon 5 apart of the playlist.
 
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Suzuka Circuit is just a reskin of what we saw in Forza 4. I thought the old tracks were remade for this game.
Idk why people are assuming it if most if not all sponsors in track are accurated and some physical changes made after FM also show up in the game

Disappointing that the final Car Pass car is the 2020 BMW M2. While not exactly the M2 we’ve had for years, it’s basically the same. Annoying that it’s apart of the Car Pass when the newer generation of M2 just came to Horizon 5 apart of the playlist.
Its not the Final car, there still have more 29 cars still left to be shown
 
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Idk why people are assuming it if most if not all sponsors in track are accurated and some physical changes made after FM also show up in the game


Its not the Final car, there still have more 29 cars still left to be shown

Oops, meant to say last car of the month
 
Explain? Because when I look at the games side-by-side, you can see a gigantic leap between them.
Pay close attention to the camber and elevation of the road and you'll notice that it's the exact same as Forza 4.
 
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