This is one of those times where I'm going to say, "are we playing the same game?" Aside from the selection of tracks being available at launch (I had the exact same complaint with GT7), how is the game lacking "polish"? And what is factual about your opinion on the game? The graphics look amazing (I'm on PC WS version), the wheel physics are 1000% better with better animations now and the overall feel of the game just puts it in a better place than where FM7 sits.
I know you are responding to someone else but I'll take a go at this because there's so much that maybe we can break it into a couple different posts. Where to begin. How is the game lacking polish.
The graphics look ok but at the extent of a game that is so unoptimized, I get better framerate on ACC which was at one time considered the most resource intensive sim out. The fact that it was released needed update after update to optimize a game that was being worked on for supposedly so long means it wasn't polished. (AMS2 still looks better than this washed out mess to me)
Sure, the wheel FFB feels pretty good, after I took over an hour setting up my wheel and figuring out what their settings did to the FFB. The fact that the default settings are so far off of a good feeling right out of the box let alone not having a base setting starting point for different wheel companies like logitech base settings, fanatec base settings, thrustmaster base settings, seems to me to be very unpolished.
The AI are bad. I'm not going to get into it because we all know that. When I have an E rated car on Indy Oval braking in a corner where the car doesn't even need to lift off the throttle one bit, with no other cars in sight, there's an issue going on. Ridiculously unpolished.
When people have an S Rating and somehow other rammers are still getting S ratings for some reason. Unpolished.
I can't even use my H-Shifter on my Sim Rig because they broke it so bad that there's some ridiculous lag. Not even to mention that cars with a shifter - should have a shifter be the setting. Cars with sequential or paddles, should have those already set. What type of nonsense is this?
Speaking of nonsense, cars with TC should have TC and those that don't, don't. Why do I have to go into settings to constantly change this?
Repeat this with ABS.
Unpolished.
Why is there a career mode that just throws you into random groups of cars instead of you "building" a lower car and using that to progress as far as you can? Why is there absolutely no race cars in the career to speak of? That seems more than unpolished, but a horrible design and decision from the get go.
I select free play, I am supposed to have cars with driveatar liveries, and yet they all have the same liveries. I'm driving on track with multiple race cars that all look the same in 2023. Not a single real sim on PC does this. It is abhorrent and unpolished.
And for one of the biggest, why does a polished game need over 200 fixes in the first place. That is an obnoxious amount for something that's polished. I'm going to take a break for now, if anyone else wants to chime in for some more, great. If not, I'll be back for the second wall of text on why Forza Motorsport 2023 is unpolished and an absolute mess on release in a bit.
Edit: Alright, I made a coffee and took a walk.
Regarding cars and physics. While this is the best feeling physics so far in FM, there are still issues. FM and the word understeer go hand in hand. What I assume to be their attempt to make you have to upgrade your car, assuming tires first, just doesn't work very well. That on top of bad default setups for a lot of cars creates a bad experience initially driving a car. Where I should be excited to drive a car and it should be a lively fun experience, I now have to wrestle a wet dish rag to get it to go around a corner. Maybe not unpolished but a bad development decision.
In the setups of the cars, I have experienced myself as well as read about others findings that settings are reversed. I know for a fact that in one car I used, can't remember which now, when going around a corner, the inside tire overheated instead of the outside load tire. These were reversed,.
In a high downforce race car, I'm drifting around corners at low, medium and high speeds.
They go ahead and change the fact that I can now get the chance to use new upgraded tires, but yet I can't because the car doesn't have the XP yet. lol. I have the tires, but can't fit them. Not only unpolished but they have no clue what they are doing with this.
Speaking of no clue of what's going on, and why this is so unpolished, from the start here, it seems like they had no clue what they were implementing. Help me out anyone if you can but what is the actual selling point of this game? What is it? That they just crapped out a new Forza Motorsport so we should just get it? The career is not even thought out, has direction and is abysmal. There is no linear progression and on top of that, There is no merit for performing well and being a "good" driver.
I can put the AI on the lowest setting, finish last in every single race and still progress through the whole career. And that's all they have?
Rivals. OK I guess. I personally prefer races but I guess that's OK.
Online isn't my favorite because you get people who just don't care. That's going to always happen but happens a lot less on the PC Sims than it does in the games.
I used an exploit that supposedly was in FM7 to use a car, change the gearing, the car then goes wild with the tires spinning and I have millions of credits. Thank you for building that from the ground up again from FM7 so I can exploit it. Wonderful.
All in all, they created an unpolished base game that they can now build on. It's not a bad basis though. Polished it is not however. It needs A LOT of work. When they said the damn thing is Built From The Ground Up, I didn't think that meant they were going to build the game right before our eyes after we already paid for it. That is bad business. That is unacceptable. And in my opinion, they have tarnished their name so bad with this one, they won't be able to come back. This thing isn't going to be in a state of "polish" for another couple years. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am, I didn't buy this mess to be disappointed, I bought it to use and have fun, not watch a company **** the bed and fix it before our eyes.
