Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

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I feel like this is a case of some extra/late bug fixes being added as part of the update. That could explain the 1 day delay for the update drop.


However, the silence regarding the content is puzzling. This could mean that it is a bunch of recycled cars, mainly because this update already has the Nordschleife as the headliner, as well as the large amount of fixes. It would be not great, as it will make it two updates in a row with recycled cars. Which would be unfortunate, as FH5 continues to add new cars pretty consistently.
Shame really, because they started off with some real big name cars in the updates.

Or it could be that a planned announcement/livestream was shelved last minute for whatever reason. It could be the Xbox stuff, it could be due to reception to the previous streams, or it is just unknown circumstance (to us). That still doesn't explain why a simple summary video isn't uploaded.

Silence right before what is the biggest update so far (as well as a delay) is not a good look, especially when their communication has been week before.

Either way I hope it goes smoothly. The cannot coast (or even seem to coast) right now.
 
Regardless of today's update, I would like some other things addressed in the future (one can wish):

I want the option to take the car out of the pits instead of the canned animation we have now, which at best is blurry and capped at 30 fps in the Series X, and at worst is uncapped but stuttery on PC (frame generation does help a bit.)

I would also like the option to go straight to the start of the race and skip the canned animations, which are lame.

I want a better cockpit GUI. I want the fuel gage separate from the tire status (which is rather useless since tires are always at the optimum temperature, like in PC3, and it doesn't display pressure changes) and a less obtrusive speedometer, which I had to remove for a less cluttered view. I want the option of moving the GUI elements around... In fact, just copy PC2 on this regard.

Some interior carbon fiber/piano black pieces just look awful (on the new BMW series 3, what is that in the base of the A-pillar???), I hope they eventually address that.

For paint/livery creation, I would also like it to have some of Grid Legends features: pick a pattern, pick your colors/finishes, pick your sponsors (or not), or some canned patterns too (PC3). And that greyish background has to go, or at least offer the option of a whitespace.

I want the ability for setting short, medium, long races in the tours, also, a remix option after finishing said tour would be nice.

Anyways, let's see what the upgrade brings...
 
When the hell is the update coming? How is people so sure that is coming today or tomorrow? This dudes at Turn10 don't even know who they work for anymore.... Hopefully this game continues to get better sooner rather than later.
 
ruestchiva
When the hell is the update coming? How is people so sure that is coming today or tomorrow? This dudes at Turn10 don't even know who they work for anymore.... Hopefully this game continues to get better sooner rather than later.
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Updates typically don't come this early in the morning. I'm willing to bet around 9AM-12PM PST is when you should expect it.
 
ruestchiva
When the hell is the update coming? How is people so sure that is coming today or tomorrow? This dudes at Turn10 don't even know who they work for anymore.... Hopefully this game continues to get better sooner rather than later.
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They're always the same time of day, but I can't remember for certain what it is. I think it's 6pm UK time, 2 hours from now, but could be an hour earlier or later.
 
My French is a bit rusty, but here's some more info on the update, thanks to Team Baguette 😉

The update is "coming tonight", whatever that means 🤔
Screenshot_20240214_171901.jpg
 
Nacho Libre
Regardless of today's update, I would like some other things addressed in the future (one can wish):

I want the option to take the car out of the pits instead of the canned animation we have now, which at best is blurry and capped at 30 fps in the Series X, and at worst is uncapped but stuttery on PC (frame generation does help a bit.)

I would also like the option to go straight to the start of the race and skip the canned animations, which are lame.

I want a better cockpit GUI. I want the fuel gage separate from the tire status (which is rather useless since tires are always at the optimum temperature, like in PC3, and it doesn't display pressure changes) and a less obtrusive speedometer, which I had to remove for a less cluttered view. I want the option of moving the GUI elements around... In fact, just copy PC2 on this regard.

Some interior carbon fiber/piano black pieces just look awful (on the new BMW series 3, what is that in the base of the A-pillar???), I hope they eventually address that.

For paint/livery creation, I would also like it to have some of Grid Legends features: pick a pattern, pick your colors/finishes, pick your sponsors (or not), or some canned patterns too (PC3). And that greyish background has to go, or at least offer the option of a whitespace.

I want the ability for setting short, medium, long races in the tours, also, a remix option after finishing said tour would be nice.

Anyways, let's see what the upgrade brings...
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I would like to see them fix how you are handed control of the car on rolling starts. Sometimes the car is very herky jerky and is in 1st gear but other times it's smoother and in 2nd gear.
 
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Jezza819
I would to see them fix how you are handed control of the car on rolling starts. Sometimes the car is very herky jerky and is in 1st gear but other times it's smoother and in 2nd gear.
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Speaking of, it needs to recenter your wheel before giving you control, the amount of times I've started practice and immediately steered off into the wall is ridiculous, the process to restart after suffering the severe damage is painful
 
syphe
Speaking of, it needs to recenter your wheel before giving you control, the amount of times I've started practice and immediately steered off into the wall is ridiculous, the process to restart after suffering the severe damage is painful
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Yeah you're right, I remember that happening early on at Fraggle Rock in maybe the muscle car challenge I think.
 
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Forza Motorsport Update 5.0 Release Notes – February 14, 2024​

We're working to improve your Forza Motorsport experience. Below is a summary of new content and features, and items fixed or improved in Update 5.




New Content, Features and Events [All Platforms]

New Track

  • Nürburgring Nordschleife: Standalone Nordschleife and Full Circuit (GP combined)
New Career Events

  • Featured Tour: Ringer Tour(Available from Feb. 14 4pm PT | Feb. 15 12am UTC – April 2 4pm PT | April 3 12am UTC)
    • Showdown Series: BMW M (Starts Feb. 14 4pm PT | Feb. 15 12am UTC)
    • Showdown Series: Audi Sport (Starts Feb. 21 4pm PT | Feb. 22 12am UTC)
    • Showdown Series: Mercedes-AMG (Starts Feb. 28 4pm PT | Feb. 29 12am UTC)
    • Showdown Series: Porsche 911 (Starts March 6 4pm PT | March 7 12am UTC)
  • Open Tour – German Automotive(Available from Feb. 14 4pm PT | Feb. 15 12am UTC – April 2 4pm PT | April 3 12am UTC)
    • D Class Series
    • C Class Series
    • B Class Series
    • A Class Series
Reward Cars

  • Ringer Tour: 2022 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS
  • Open Tour: 1974 Porsche #1 911 RSR
Spotlight Cars

  • 2023 BMW M2 (Feb. 15 – Feb. 21)
  • 2013 Audi RS 7 Sportback (Feb. 22 – Feb. 28)
  • 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG (Feb. 29 – March 6)
  • 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S (March 7 – March 13)
Car Pass Cars

  • 1965 Lotus Team Lotus type 35 (Feb. 15)
  • 2015 Cadillac #3 Cadillac Racing ATS-V.R (Feb. 22)
  • 2018 Ford #98 Breathless Pro Racing TA Mustang (Feb. 29)
  • 2020 Audi TT RS Coupe (March 7)
New Multiplayer Events

Spec Series

  • Grand Prix Rivals (Feb. 15 – Feb. 21)
  • Mustang Shelby GT500 Spec Series (Feb. 22 – Feb. 28)
  • GTX Sportscar Spec Series (Feb. 29 – March 6)
  • Forza Proto-H Series (March 7 – March 13)
Open Series

  • S Class & D Class (Feb. 15 – Feb. 21)
  • X Class & A Class (Feb. 22 – Feb. 28)
  • R Class & C Class (Feb. 29 – March 6)
  • P Class & E Class (March 7 – March 13)
Spotlight Series

  • 2023 BMW M2 (Feb. 15 – Feb. 21)
  • 2013 Audi RS 7 Sportback (Feb. 22 – Feb. 28)
  • 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG (Feb. 29 – March 6)
  • 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S (March 7 – March 13)
New Rivals Events

  • Featured Track: Nordschleife – 1979 BMW #6 BMW Motorsport M1 Procar – Nürburgring Nordschleife (Feb. 15 – March 13)
  • VIP: Body Builder – 2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Forza Edition – Mugello Club Circuit (Feb. 15 – March 13)
  • Logitech McLaren G Bonus Stage – 1997 McLaren F1 GT – Hakone Club Circuit (Feb. 15 – March 13)
  • Spotlight – 2023 BMW M2 – Laguna Seca - Full Circuit (Feb. 15 – Feb. 21)
  • Spotlight – 2013 Audi RS 7 Sportback – VIR - North Circuit (Feb. 22 – Feb. 28)
  • Spotlight – 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG – Hockenheim - National Circuit (Feb. 29 – March 6)
  • Spotlight – 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S – Nürburgring - Full Circuit (March 7 – March 13)
Bug Fixes and Improvements

The team is constantly hard at work on bugs, some of which are not immediately visible to players but are critical for game stability for all players.

Stability [All Platforms]

  • Fixed an issue where the game enters an unresponsive state when returning to Open Practice in Featured Multiplayer from a suspended state. [1612807]
  • Fixed a crash that could occur after selecting “Skip Practice,” exiting the race and re-entering the event. [1657219]
  • Fixed a crash that could occur when entering Forzavista. [1671290]
  • Fixed a game crash that could occur when opening a race replay. [1672588]
Builders Cup [All Platforms]

  • Skipping Completed Practice: Players are now presented with the option to Skip Practice in the Career mode pre-race menu. Furthermore, if the player completes a Practice session, the game creates a save point and provides additional options when returning to a series for replaying or skipping complete practice. [1635662]
  • Additional information has been added for projected finishes in the Challenge the Grid screen. [1673345]
  • Fixed an issue in Builders Cup where the series standing list is missing the names of AI drivers. [1668229]
  • Fixed an issue in Builders Cup where the Skip Practice option loads the incorrect time-of-day for the track intro cinematic. [1674381]
Multiplayer [All Platforms]

  • Fixed an issue in Private Multiplayer where someone driving the wrong way wasn’t correctly ghosted and could collide with other players. [1613125]
  • Fixed an issue in Featured Multiplayer where players could encounter an infinite loading screen when attempting to change their Fuel and Tire setup at Grid Preview. [1611726]
  • Fixed an issue where Featured Multiplayer events at Hockenheim had only 3 laps instead of the intended lap count. [1691754]
  • Fixed issue where in some Featured Multiplayer Series (Prototype Group Series, Vintage Le Mans Sportscar Series), some cars utilized different tire compounds, resulting in uneven tire wear during a race. [1657150]
  • Fixed an issue in Featured Multiplayer Forza GT Spec Series where multiple classes are displayed when filtering by class. [1607337]
  • Fixed an issue in Forzavista where the car model remains “exploded” after accepting a Multiplayer invite. [1646951]
Free Play [All Platforms]

  • Fixed an issue in Free Play where car model names are missing from the drivers list. [1660255]
  • Fixed an issue in Free Play Quick Events where the "Number of Laps" returns to the track layout default when going to Event Setup in the pre-race menu. [1629341]
  • Fixed an issue where Load/Save Event Setup options appear in Free Play Advanced while offline. [1446888]
  • Time of Day and Weather will no longer always be randomized for the "Next Event" after a Free Play race. Your settings will be remembered. [1598884]
  • Fixed an issue in Free Play where the post-race information on the next race screen is inaccurate when weather is set to Variable. [1569880]
Gameplay [All Platforms]

  • Fixed an issue where the "Do You Like This Design?" and "Do You Like This Tune?" post-race prompts are not appearing. [1604582]
  • In the Fuel and Tires setup menu, added descriptions for non-race tires that explain their all-weather capability. [1607316]
  • Fixed an issue where audio sounds were played twice when pressing and releasing the “A” button on controller in the post-race podium finish sequence. [1555390]
  • Fixed an issue where the “Seeing Stars” blue and teal Driver Suits are mixed up in the Driver Customization menu. [1603140]
  • Added an explanation to the Fuel and Tires menu that clarifies why tires cannot be changed while using a rental car. [1612374]
  • Adjusted the post-race rewards flow to ensure credits earned are displayed before a new Driver Suit unlock. [1651459]
Cars [All Platforms]

  • Introduced a first-time pop up to the Buy Cars menu that explains the Featured Tab. [1635604]
  • Fixed an issue in the Showroom where cars have a checkmark despite not being properly selected. [1602611]
  • 2010 Lexus LFA: Updated inaccurate car audio. [1653741]
  • 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R: Fixed an issue where the Rear Tire Width options are displayed in the wrong order after applying a widebody kit. [1664831]
  • 2009 Ford Focus RS: Fixed an issue where the car’s audio sounds metallic and distorted. [1661365]
Tracks [All Platforms]

  • Hockenheim: Fixed an issue where race-day objects clip into the post-race cinematic when the player does not earn a podium finish. [1663889]
  • Daytona: Fixed an issue where crew members can appear floating during the walk-the-grid cinematic in Featured Multiplayer. [1671191]
  • Spa-Francorchamps: Fixed the typo on the “Welcome to Circuit de Spa” track sign. [1675335]
AI [All Platforms]

  • Fixed issue where “Skip Lap” forces player off-track at Suzuka Full Circuit if they have adjusted their fuel levels on certain X class cars. [1681253]
  • Fixed issue where AI controller takes player car off the track at VIR North when using “Skip Lap” or the start of a Test Drive session. [1682343]
Livery Editor [All Platforms]

  • Fixed an issue where the game enters an indefinite loading screen after selecting any car within the All Cars sub-menu of the Design & Paint mode. [1712706]
  • Players are now prompted to save their livery if they attempt to exit the Livery Editor without saving. [1437864]
  • Fixed an issue when exiting a search in “Find Designs” exits the design section of the Livery Editor. [1490136]
  • Fixed an issue where upgraded calipers are unable to be painted. [1555302]
  • 2004 Maserati MC12: Fixed an issue where the manufacturer livery partially disappears when paint and decals are applied to the vehicle. [1557639]
  • Fixed an issue where Vinyl Group sizes can become negative, leaving it difficult or even impossible to get them back to positive values. [1603790]
  • Fixed an issue where shared Vinyls created and used by the same author on a Car Livery will lock sharing on the livery. [1608207]
  • Added custom advanced zoom to the Livery Editor when applying decals to a car. [1621135]
  • Fixed an issue where the Paint Wing option would be still accessible when the wing is removed from the car. [1556604]
  • 2018 Acura #36 NSX GT3: Fixed an issue where the car’s shadow would “pop-in” at certain camera angles in the Paint Car menu. [1452096]
  • Fixed an issue in Apply Decals > Vinyl Group where Curated Groups do not populate if selected too quickly. [1631003]
  • Fixed an issue in Apply Decals > Vinyl Group where layer count displayed incorrectly in the UI. [1536758]
  • Fixed an issue in the decal selector where letters and symbols are incorrectly rearranged in the tab Lower Letters 5. [1570323]
PC [Microsoft Store and Steam]

  • Numerous under-the-hood improvements to reduce CPU spikes and better utilize the GPU, helping to improve framerate consistency while driving. [1536749, 1651623]
  • Fixed numerous crash scenarios caused by multi-threaded rendering. [1624448, 1659051]
  • Fixed being unable to use full screen mode when using a PC with an integrated GPU. [1603057]
  • Fixed erratic framerate after reverting a video settings change. [1577163]
  • Improved Mouse navigation by allowing RMB to behave like esc + B to navigate back through menus. [1486418]
    • There is a known conflict with free camera rotation using a mouse in livery editor and photo mode, and we’re looking to address in a future update. For now, players can use the top menu preset views or the right thumb stick on a controller to navigate their camera as usual with the livery editor, and can use the arrow keys or right thumb stick on a controller for photo mode.
  • Fixed an issue on PC where players would see no performance boost when switching from a high-quality mode to low quality. [1629213]
  • Fixed an issue where objects were missing from car reflections in Photo Mode and Forzavista [1670932]
  • Added a check for GPU support of D3D12 Enhanced Barrier feature to application startup. Error code AP205 corresponds to detected lack of support. Client will attempt to find a device which has required features and will report a "failed to create graphics device" modal if none are found. [1684419]
  • Fixed an issue in the Livery Editor on PC where zooming in with the mouse wheel scrolls the decal layers as well. [1612231]
Wheels [All Platforms]

  • Fixed an issue causing custom wheel input layouts to reset to their default settings after relaunching the game with both a controller and steering wheel connected. [1593360]
  • Fixed an issue that caused the first shift LED light on the Logitech G923 to be illuminated when the car is idling. [1653804]
  • Fixed an issue where the shift lights don’t blink on Logitech steering wheels when the car exceeds redline. [1653801]
  • Fixed an issue where H-pattern shifters occasionally delayed shifting gears. [1633642]
  • Improved shift light LED normalized rev range for Thrustmaster and Logitech devices. [1631053] [1631050]
  • Fixed an issue where the car steering animation was laggy or unresponsive when using a steering wheel to drive. [1624215]
Wheels [PC Only]

  • Fixed an issue where LEDs on the Fanatec Formula wheel were blinking with the incorrect colors and rate. [1631049]
  • Improved shift light LED normalized rev range for Fanatec devices. [1631052]


Photo Mode and Replays [All Platforms]

  • Players can now save Short Race replays. When racing against a full grid, Short races should save most replays; Medium races will not save full replays but will save up to 11 minutes. Work to improve replay save length is ongoing. [1655835]
  • Fixed an issue in Photo Mode on PC where non-16:9 resolutions include letterboxing in saved photos. [1671404]
  • Fixed an issue when searching Replays or Photo Galleries by Track or Track Layout would return no results. [1604588]
Graphics [All Platforms]

  • Improved screen space reflections to handle quick dynamic resolution changes. [1670567]
Accessibility [All Platforms]

  • Blind Driving Assists: Fixed an issue where the AI Takeover Cue pitch-volume setting is not honored during pit entry if the player enters with Pit Assist enabled. [1639525]
  • Blind Driving Assists: Fixed an issue where the Deceleration Cue Pitch preview does not function properly in the Accessibility settings menu. [1639445]
  • Fixed an issue where the UI Contrast setting text does not accurately describe the setting function. [1593309]
  • Fixed an issue at Laguna Seca where certain P and X Class cars do not follow the driving line with throttle assist turned on. [1662584]
  • Fixed an issue at Daytona where certain P and X Class cars do not follow the driving line with throttle assist turned on. [1662599]
  • Fixed an issue where the Screen Narrator reads the acceleration or braking stat changes in kilometers per hour when miles per hour is displayed. [1613130]
  • Fixed an issue where the Screen Narrator reads "no results for this leaderboard are available at this time" when entering the leaderboard in Rivals. [1657145]
  • Blind Driving Assists: Fixed an issue where the Turn Navigation preview does not function properly in the Accessibility settings menu while on track. [1657217]
  • Blind Driving Assists: Fixed an issue where audio cues are present during and after the Benchmark mode on PC where the player is unable to control the vehicle. [1607324]
  • Added hyphenation for common compound word, front-wheel drive, to the subtitle when inspecting the 2018 Honda Civic Type R during the Builders Cup Intro Series. [1576107]
  • Fixed an issue in the Quick Upgrade menu where the "Confirm" button on this screen always narrates the incorrect status initially. [1603873]
  • Fixed an issue where the Screen Narrator does not readily read all the VIP event information in Rivals. [1625474]
  • Fixed an issue where the Screen Narrator does not inform players that they are highlighting a new Series they have not viewed before in Career mode. [1581960]
  • Fixed an issue in the Showroom where the "Owned" text appears much larger than its UI box while Menu Text size is set to largest. [1660344]

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Im glad they are giving us the combined GP version of the Nurb too which is great. And I guess they figure the Nurburgring should hold us over until April for the next track which it should. Although I was hoping for Sebring in time for the 12hrs next month.
 

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