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Reading the blog it sounds like Nordschleife isn’t in Featured Multiplayer, which means I may never have a chance to race it as that’s effectively all I play.
Listen to the youtube-video, after what I recall they includes it there

edit: mybe not, only "private multiplayer" so far
 
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For some weird reason, the 1974 Porsche 911 RSR is listed under GTX Sportscars, where it should actually be in Vintage Le Mans Sportscars (even if it probably never raced at Le Mans, or orobably it did).

Oh and I tried rhe Nordschleife with a stock Bugatti Chiron and was disappointed, with a slow 6:58.2xx lap time.
 
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I told you I would make a boo-boo aboard a BMW in the usual places. It's tradition!
 
I see I'll be doing some Porsche hunting...
For some weird reason, the 1974 Porsche 911 RSR is listed under GTX Sportscars, where it should actually be in Vintage Le Mans Sportscars (even if it probably never raced at Le Mans, or orobably it did).

Oh and I tried rhe Nordschleife with a stock Bugatti Chiron and was disappointed, with a slow 6:58.2xx lap time.


They've got some cars in some really strange classes.
 
I wonder how's the PC performance is after the update
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Basically, the 60fps vsync option (which I was using previously because it seemed to be smoother than unlocked), previously didn't seem to limit my frame rates on my 165Hz screen, has changed behaviour. Suddenly in both benchmark and gameplay it was limiting me to 55fps (?)

So anyway, moving back to "unlocked vsync" solved that problem and got me back to my usual level of frame rate.
 
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I've tested the Nordschleife now and I'm quite pleased! It's visually a big upgrade compared to FM7 in my opinion.

The track also feels bumpier and more accurate, when comparing it to all the onboards I've seen from Misha Charoudin's Youtube channel.

The trackside detail is better. There was still some instances of shadow pop-in however. Sometimes the trees are a bit too dense and doesn't quite look like real life. I remember that Digital Foundry noticed that as well in their analysis of Watkins Glenn.

Another less positive note is that the AI drives horribly on this track. Half of the field crashed before we even reached Schwedenkreutz.

I started my free play race in the evening with 24× time progression and I had an absolute blast. Very immersive! I was afraid that the floodlights would make the track too bright during night time, but thankfully it's mostly pitch black still!
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I took a D-class tuned 1973 Carrera for a spin to take a look at the new track. Then a 3-lap a-class race to test out the physics.
Great track and I like the car-physics in this game. But the AI is still crazy
 
My experience on this track with the AI was the complete opposite. Just did a race with Modern factory racers using the Senna GTR and had some great battles around the whole measly 2 laps I did around the giant full circuit. For nearly a whole lap a 599 XX EVO kept me on his tail and an FXX EVO and Brabham BT62 challenged me on my tail at the same time. It was good fun. Im enjoying how the track feels its definitely a lot better then it was in 7, looks better too.
I've tested the Nordschleife now and I'm quite pleased! It's visually a big upgrade compared to FM7 in my opinion.

The track also feels bumpier and more accurate, when comparing it to all the onboards I've seen from Misha Charoudin's Youtube channel.

The trackside detail is better. There was still some instances of shadow pop-in however. Sometimes the trees are a bit too dense and doesn't quite look like real life. I remember that Digital Foundry noticed that as well in their analysis of Watkins Glenn.

Another less positive note is that the AI drives horribly on this track. Half of the field crashed before we even reached Schwedenkreutz.

I started my free play race in the evening with 24× time progression and I had an absolute blast. Very immersive! I was afraid that the floodlights would make the track too bright during night time, but thankfully it's mostly pitch black still!View attachment 1328186View attachment 1328187View attachment 1328188
 
I think it’s probably the best recreation of the Nordschleife that I’ve seen, certainly visually. Assetto Corsa is probably my gold standard - not in terms of visuals but in terms of just feeling right - and this is pretty close, like how bumpy it seems and add the visuals and scenery to that and yeah it’s genuinely nice. I love GT, but sometimes I feel like it feels like you’re driving through a tunnel somehow - not sure how else to explain it - while this and AC you can feel the freedom a bit, play with the cars. This might be the first Forza game for a long time where I can see myself hotlapping just for the enjoyment of driving.
 
For reference, a relaxed A class rivals single lap nets you roughly 18k credits (with VIP) and 2+ carXP levels.

I can see myself spending a lot of time in that mode from now on :D
I'm not used to doing something early, so seeing that I'm the 38th fastest is quite incredible.
... granted, only 95 have participated 🤪
 
Anyone driven on the Nordschleife for real who can say how accurate they got it?

I've only ever driven the digital versions in forza and GT so my only frame of reference is those games. I have to say though, it's very different from what i remember in previous Forzas and way harder to drive fast on. (Only tested S class so far)

So many bumps and elevation changes that can upset the car. Just wondering if that's how it is for real?
 
I would say it’s not bumpy enough compared to the real thing (have only 16 laps under my belt but still find Assetto and even GT closer to what I experienced) and it’s probably the same « ground » used in FM5/6/7 on which they build it a bit more accurately. Something is still off imho but at least it looks good and is really pleasing to drive on.
 
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I've tested the Nordschleife now and I'm quite pleased! It's visually a big upgrade compared to FM7 in my opinion.

The track also feels bumpier and more accurate, when comparing it to all the onboards I've seen from Misha Charoudin's Youtube channel.

The trackside detail is better. There was still some instances of shadow pop-in however. Sometimes the trees are a bit too dense and doesn't quite look like real life. I remember that Digital Foundry noticed that as well in their analysis of Watkins Glenn.

Another less positive note is that the AI drives horribly on this track. Half of the field crashed before we even reached Schwedenkreutz.

I started my free play race in the evening with 24× time progression and I had an absolute blast. Very immersive! I was afraid that the floodlights would make the track too bright during night time, but thankfully it's mostly pitch black still!View attachment 1328186View attachment 1328187View attachment 1328188View attachment 1328189
How often do they have those light fixtures? Is it only in certain sections or at regular intervals all around the track?
 
For some weird reason, the 1974 Porsche 911 RSR is listed under GTX Sportscars, where it should actually be in Vintage Le Mans Sportscars (even if it probably never raced at Le Mans, or orobably it did).

Oh and I tried rhe Nordschleife with a stock Bugatti Chiron and was disappointed, with a slow 6:58.2xx lap time.
Now that I think of it the 1974 RSR could be in either Vintage le mans sports cars ( which I cant be mad thats its not since its mostly 50s-60s cars) or GTX sports cars as I think it raced with the BMW 3.0 CSL thats in the game now. The main problem is the GTX division needs to get broken up into like 4 subdivisions . I do hope we get some more 70s GT cars like the De Tomaso Pantera, Ferrari 308gtb , Jaguar XJS group 44, and Datsun 240z.
 
You can't "get" them so you can't tune/level/upgrade them, but you can drive them as rentals in private lobbies still, they haven't fixed it since game launch. Dunno if they know/care about it, or if they would even be able to fix it.
Sorry to bring this back up; has this been fixed? Decided to give it a go in Private Multiplayer & don't see any of the new cars.
 
Why was I gifted an Acura ARX-05 DPI? Was anyone else gifted that?

*nevermind, I got gifted the car before the message of the excuse even came through. Must of turned the game on at the point in between. lol
 
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I just ran a 2-lap race with my AM Vantage at A694 but most of the field was in the lower S700.
What a revelation, the AI was well behaved all through the race: No pileups in the first turn, no rogues and no sideswipes. While they are still very cautious when braking, at least they do it in logical places, and if you have them beat they will allow passing. Also, big gains in PC performance: At some point I hit 120 fps in high settings with minor stutters here and there.
Next, I will test the Series X.
 
Am I crazy or is this the first time a street car has been part of the car pass pack?
Second one actually, but IMO the 2020 TT RS honestly feels more like a waste of space rather than a new car. We already have the 2018 model. What's different about the '20 model to even justify charging people money for an already existing car?
 
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I just ran a 2-lap race with my AM Vantage at A694 but most of the field was in the lower S700.
What a revelation, the AI was well behaved all through the race: No pileups in the first turn, no rogues and no sideswipes. While they are still very cautious when braking, at least they do it in logical places, and if you have them beat they will allow passing. Also, big gains in PC performance: At some point I hit 120 fps in high settings with minor stutters here and there.
Next, I will test the Series X.
Even though they said the AI update is a work in progress it seems like they have been silently tweaking them in each of the last two updates. I have noticed a lot more cleaner racing, less pileups and greater competiton from the mid-back of the pack cars. They do still need tweaking in the braking areas and random side swipes here and there but they are better then before. They really need to nerf the AI that ends up in first place too, I cant ever seem to catch first place once they get a couple seconds lead on me.
 
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