Forza
- Thread starter GT Obsession
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- un_peacekeeper
u haf to pay for xbox live, that's y...and that's PER MONTH it adds up, among other bills
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- VIPERGTS01
I will never pay a subscription to play online games.... ever. I already pay for broadband and for the games but I wont pay extra for the priviledge to play the game (that I already payed for) online.
I have tons of PC games that I play online without extra charges.
I have tons of PC games that I play online without extra charges.
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- un_peacekeeper
same here, one of the reasons i don't own a fat box or play any MMORPGs
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VIPERGTSR01
I agree. Just another way for the game creators to get more money. Most in-game online features suck anyway. I came across a NFS:U forum the other day and the members where saying that it's the worst game in the series. and the online game play was absolutely terrible. the sequel must be twice as worse. But it's ea's fault, not sony's. Not all in-game online features are bad.
un_peacekeeper
Compare to Sony online infrastructure, I will tell you that paying 4.95 / month to play xbox live is worth every penny. Every game you play online has the same structure : Quick Match, Optimatch, Voice chat and Friend List. You can always see what game your friends play and you can invite them to join whatever game you are playing.
I know alot of you guys will complain about no wanted to hear the annoying people online. I agree that is why you can always mute someone. Once you make some good friends online, You will love the voice chat. I only play with friends now. There is ton of car fanatic online and fun it's to talk about car between two races.
I was as sckeptical too before I got xbox live. I had the same argument against it. Why should I pay blah blah blah. I got the chance to be a beta tester on xbox live and it change my minds. The service is great, It's always up and running. You always know also they need to pass the xbox live approval. No more crappy developper with a barely minimal online option.
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- un_peacekeeper
but it isn't really worth it when u don't have too many live enabled games...and xboxconnect probably can't get the patches...and updates.
un_peacekeeper
Xboxconnect lags like crazy compare to xbox live plus you don't have voice chat unless you use something like teamspeak. All you need is one good xbox live games. You can also always rent a game before buying it.
I don't want to sound too fanboy here but xbox live is a really good product. I have tried to play some ps2 game online but every game you need to create account on different server and you have to build friend list when there is such option. I almost never play online with the PS2. I have bough the adapter with GT4 in mind.
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oh dear....
You get what you pay for, simple as.
When downloadable content costs money, ITS A CHOICE. It's your choice, don't want it? Don't pay, but from what I've seen, most games have free content. It's like an expansion pack.
And fatbox? My gawd....that's the most stupid thing I've heard...today.
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IMO, xbox live is one of the best things to come out of this console generation.
I don't think I'd have an xbox if it wasn't available.
And to those that say the features are crappy or that there aren't enough games, just stop and think before you speak. I have too many good live games to keep track of, and considering that online play seriously destroys any free time I have, that argument just falls flat.
Don't pay if you don't like the idea, but don't start bashing it because it works almost flawlessly (except for the griefers out there, but hey, that's not really something that is controllable).
I don't think I'd have an xbox if it wasn't available.
And to those that say the features are crappy or that there aren't enough games, just stop and think before you speak. I have too many good live games to keep track of, and considering that online play seriously destroys any free time I have, that argument just falls flat.
Don't pay if you don't like the idea, but don't start bashing it because it works almost flawlessly (except for the griefers out there, but hey, that's not really something that is controllable).
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I have got 2 years of x-box live and the live kit from my DSL provider for free! (SBC Yahoo) It was a promotional deal for signing up for their pro package which is the highest speed they carry. Ya, I have to pay a couple of bucks more a month on my bill but considering I have my cell phone,landline,internet and satellite for my TV (dish ntwk) through the same company they take off a major amount and it all come on one bill which is paid online. I like X-Live Halo 2 is damn good! Toca race driver 2 is fair and would be awesome if I could use my pro wheel! I have quite a few other titles that is supported by live. I also have the PS2 hooked up and race Nascar 2005 on it and it does support the wheel. It is a blast especially when you get some friends on there, Oh and by the way Just because it says Nascar on it don't mean there aren't road courses. Great game if given the chance! Not to mention I also have a Game Cube too! I have all of the bases covered just bring on the console wars because the consumer always gets the best when to major consoles are out doing and cutting prices on each other!
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VIPERGTSR01
Yep. That's a good option as well.
Anyway, I've been playing the demo a bit more this weekend, and it's growing on me. Maybe I'm just getting used to the controls, but it's actually very fun and I've had some tight races with the A.I.
I don't feel that the A.I. is up to par with TOCA 2 so far, but it's definately a blast to duke it out with them in the corners.
My favourite car is the Nissan 350Z, it's the easiest to drive smoothly and also gives a satisfying bit of oversteer on corner exits. I wish there was a replay option in the demo though, because I've had some awesome moments I wanted to watch again.
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Except fo consistent updates for the PC, I forgot to mention my online play with the pc mostly at blackholemotorsports.com and yes i have some great games with it but I cant sit in front of a 60 inch monitor and have the football game in the small pip at the same time. Let's see, I have had my original PS2 for umm well along time and I haven't installed an upgrade in it yet! The same with my other consoles. I agree the PC games are great and on the racing side of things are very well in depth I love using the Act-labs with the gated six speed shifter it is awesome! but I also spent quit a bit for the set up and have added many upgrades to my PC. Consoles are cheaper even if they cut a game in half (like GT4) and sell it as two games to make more money.VIPERGTSR01
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Since they pushed GT4 to Febuary.....one of the eb representatives told me that they reason Sony did that was to put the online version back into the game......even if they dont, they will have LAN connections, so technically GT4 will still be able to play online either way......I've also been looking through Forza Motorsport as well......I think it looks like a well made game but
+I think the graphics for the car are too shiny/cell shaded.
+Most people will probably not buy the game unless online was free...because some ppl cant afford to play online, and thats probably all they want to do.
+I don't think people/kids like damage on cars, or a wheel flying off there car if they turn to hard.
+I don't know why ppl are crying over body kits and damages on there cars so much but, it's suppose to be meant for simulation, and not crash and burn.....besides in real life, most professional drivers dont slap on any name brand kits for there cars, they put stuff on there cars that give them better performance.
+GT4 will probably have better driving physics than Forza because, GT has had experience for some time now.
Well anyways, I think GT4 will be better due to graphics, lan capabilites(or at least i hope), different modes u can play on, car theaters, the missions there gonna have in the game, and theres gonna be hard as computers for you to play against..........No one can really tell how good Forza is gonna be, just cuzz of graphics.....it might be like a need for speed or some dumb crap...but no one knows till it comes out.......
+I think the graphics for the car are too shiny/cell shaded.
+Most people will probably not buy the game unless online was free...because some ppl cant afford to play online, and thats probably all they want to do.
+I don't think people/kids like damage on cars, or a wheel flying off there car if they turn to hard.
+I don't know why ppl are crying over body kits and damages on there cars so much but, it's suppose to be meant for simulation, and not crash and burn.....besides in real life, most professional drivers dont slap on any name brand kits for there cars, they put stuff on there cars that give them better performance.
+GT4 will probably have better driving physics than Forza because, GT has had experience for some time now.
Well anyways, I think GT4 will be better due to graphics, lan capabilites(or at least i hope), different modes u can play on, car theaters, the missions there gonna have in the game, and theres gonna be hard as computers for you to play against..........No one can really tell how good Forza is gonna be, just cuzz of graphics.....it might be like a need for speed or some dumb crap...but no one knows till it comes out.......
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- un_peacekeeper
VIPERGTSR01
same here - and there are mods for games...a la UT2004 and HL
WhIteDrAgOn
I've played the Forza demo... its nothing like Need for Speed.
I love the GT series, I own them all, I'm going to buy GT4 regardless... but I fully realise that Forza has stuff that GT4 could only dream of having (and vicre versa)
Also, about the damage... even you say its a simulation... since when did driving into a wall at 150mph and having nothing happen to your car 'simulate' real life? 💡
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- PferdeStarke
So you mean to say driving with a GAME PAD in front of a 21" screen is simulation?
And besides GT4 is supposed to be a Driving Simulator and not a "Crashing" Simulator. Its about learning the perfect racing line, mastering it and driving as accurately as possible. It means by all means to avoid Crashes (with the 10 second penalty *in prologue*). I dont mean to say that theres no need to have damage in a simulator game, but trust me, its too hard to actually simulate damage modelling. So unless "damage modelling" is well made, theres no point in having it half measured.
I havent played Forza yet, BUT I am sure its a brilliant game, I just bought an Xbox few days back just for Forza Motorsports. But what pisses me off is some people (fanboys) dont even want to tilt towards the other console or game even though its actually as good or better.
Anyway I am not here to argue or anything, my main reason to visit this thread was to ask about the Forza's OXM Demo. A friend just gave me the iso file of this demo, I'd appreciate it if someone can guide me on how to burn it on a DVD and play it on the BOX.
And besides GT4 is supposed to be a Driving Simulator and not a "Crashing" Simulator. Its about learning the perfect racing line, mastering it and driving as accurately as possible. It means by all means to avoid Crashes (with the 10 second penalty *in prologue*). I dont mean to say that theres no need to have damage in a simulator game, but trust me, its too hard to actually simulate damage modelling. So unless "damage modelling" is well made, theres no point in having it half measured.
I havent played Forza yet, BUT I am sure its a brilliant game, I just bought an Xbox few days back just for Forza Motorsports. But what pisses me off is some people (fanboys) dont even want to tilt towards the other console or game even though its actually as good or better.
Anyway I am not here to argue or anything, my main reason to visit this thread was to ask about the Forza's OXM Demo. A friend just gave me the iso file of this demo, I'd appreciate it if someone can guide me on how to burn it on a DVD and play it on the BOX.
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- SixSpeedZ51
- BlackZ28
I hate these threads, "VS." You see them on the Forza forums too. "GT4 VS Forza"
Talk about a waste of bandwidth. This site is for GT4 fans, most people here arent going to give it [Forza] props like they ought to. Hell, I bet some even hate xbox (since they dont own one).
Needless to say, my opinion, these are both awesome games. On a side note-- they are two different games. So its pointless to say "GT4 has 'this' while forza doesnt! Ha!" Vice versa
Talk about a waste of bandwidth. This site is for GT4 fans, most people here arent going to give it [Forza] props like they ought to. Hell, I bet some even hate xbox (since they dont own one).
Needless to say, my opinion, these are both awesome games. On a side note-- they are two different games. So its pointless to say "GT4 has 'this' while forza doesnt! Ha!" Vice versa
If you read the beginning of the thread you will see that opinion have started to change since the demo has come out. I think that overall Microsoft invested alot of money in this new franchise. Realisticly, the game will be an overall excellent product with a few flaws. Since Sega GT Online, There was no game that came close to anything like the GT series. It's going to be a huge success for xbox.
If you read the developper comments when ask if Forza was a "GT Killer", he responded that his was not gunning to reproduce the GT series but to create a new experience. After I play the demo, I have to agree, The game feel and play different than the GT series.
If you read the developper comments when ask if Forza was a "GT Killer", he responded that his was not gunning to reproduce the GT series but to create a new experience. After I play the demo, I have to agree, The game feel and play different than the GT series.
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Official car list of Forza Motorsport.
Ferraris are heavily in. Lots of nice cars are in. Hope that game will be better then demo is.
Tried to edit, but gave up, don't have time.
Corvette Z06 - Corvette Z06
NSX - Acura NSX 97
Focus SVT - Ford Focus
#1 Infineon R8 - #1 Audi R8
Corvette Stingray 427 - 1967 Stingray
Impreza WRX Sti - Subaru STi
RX-7 Turbo - RX-7 Gen 3
Civic Type-R - Civic Type-R
575M Maranello - Ferrari 575M
Integra Type-R - Acura Integra
RSX Type-S - Acura RSX
300SL Gullwing Coupe - 1954 300SL
#11 D2 CLK-GTR - #11 CLK-GTR
Supra Twin Turbo - Supra TT
Celica GT-S - Celica GT-S
911 Carrera RS - 1973 911 RS
Lancer Evolution VIII GSR - EVO VIII GSR
S4 - Audi S4
TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro - Audi TT
VX220 Turbo - Vauxhall VX220
Golf R32 - VW Golf R32
Corrado SLC - VW Corrado
SC430 - Lexus SC430
Viper GTS ACR - Viper GTS ACR
Eclipse GSX - Eclipse GSX
206 Gti 180 - Peugeot 206
360 Modena F1 - Ferrari 360 F1
350Z Track - Nissan 350Z
Miata MX-5 1.8i Sport - Mazda Miata
AE86 Sprinter Trueno GT Apex - AE86 GT Apex
Prelude Type SH - Honda Prelude
RX-8 - Mazda RX-8
MR2 Turbo T-Bar - MR2 Mark II
250 GTO - 1964 250 GTO
Cobra 427 SC - 1967 Cobra
#8 LMP-02 - #8 LMP-02
Enzo - Ferrari Enzo
F50 - Ferrari F50
GT40 MK II - 1966 GT40
XJ220 - Jaguar XJ220
CC8S - Koenigsegg CC
#32 R390 GT1 - #32 R390 GT1
#27 GT-ONE TS020 - #27 TS020
Zonda C12 - Pagani Zonda
Civic Si Coupe - Civic Si Coupe
3000GT VR-4 - 3000GT VR-4
Series 1 - Shelby Series 1
Tiburon GT - Hyundai Tiburon
New Beetle Turbo S - New Beetle
ProtÈgÈ MAZDASPEED - Mazda ProtÈgÈ
G35 Coupe - Infiniti G35
Tuscan S - TVR Tuscan S
Civic Del Sol VTEC - Civic Del Sol
Eclipse GTS - Eclipse GTS
SRT4 - Dodge SRT4
Accord Coupe EX - Honda Accord
3.2 CL Type-S - Acura 3.2 CL
S4 Biturbo - Audi S4 Biturbo
512TR - Ferrari 512TR
C32 AMG Sports Coupe - Mercedes C32
Jetta GLX VR6 - VW Jetta
959 - Porsche 959
Stealth R/T Turbo - Dodge Stealth
Challenger R/T Hemi - 1970 Challenger
Camry Solara - Toyota Camry
Camaro SS - Camaro SS
288 GTO - Ferrari 288 GTO
F40 - Ferrari F40
Viper SRT10 - Viper SRT10
#15 V12 LMR - #15 V12 LMR
#21 SpA Ferrari SEFAC 330 P4 - #21 330 P4
911 GT3 - Porsche 911 GT3
Carrera GT - Carrera GT
#26 911 GT1-98 - #26 911 GT1-98
550 Spyder - 1955 550 Spyder
Datsun 240 ZX - 1972 240ZX
2000GT - 1969 2000GT
Stratos HF Stradale - 1974 Stratos
Elise 111S - Lotus Elise 111
Impreza 22B Sti - Subaru 22B
Vanquish - Vanquish
E-type S1 - 1961 E-type
IS300 - Lexus IS300
300ZX Twin Turbo Version R - Nissan 300ZX
Altima 3.5 SE - Nissan Altima
911 Turbo - Porsche 911 T
Silvia Spec-R - Silvia S15
944 Turbo - Porsche 944
S2000 - Honda S2000
Skyline GT-RV Spec II - Skyline R34
Dino 246 GT - 1969 Dino 246GT
#17 Rothmans 962 C - #17 962 C
#3 Moretti Racing F333 SP - #3 F333 SP
Esprit V8 - Lotus Esprit
9-3 Viggen - Saab 9-3
Cerbera Speed 12 - TVR Cerbera
Mustang Boss 429 - 1970 Mustang
GTO - Pontiac GTO
S7 - Saleen S7
Elan Sprint - 1972 Elan
S60 R - Volvo S60 R
Skyline GT-R - Skyline R32
Civic Si - Civic Si Hatch
3 Sport - Mazda 3
Cooper-S - MINI Cooper-S
#10 JML LMP01 EPP - #10 LMP01 EPP
Mustang Cobra R - Mustang Cobra R
GTO Hardtop - 1968 GTO
Delta Integrale EVO - Lancia Delta
355 F1 GTS - Ferrari 355
MR2 Spyder - MR2 Spyder
RS 6 - Audi RS6
Regal GNX - Regal GNX
911 GT2 - Porsche 911 GT2
Camaro Z28 - 1969 Camaro Z28
Continental GT - Continental GT
Lancer Evolution VI GSR - EVO VI GSR
CRX Si-R - CRX Si-R
Boxster S - Boxster S
Supra Turbo - Supra Mk III
Corvette C6 - Corvette C6
NSX - Acura NSX
Talon TSi Turbo - Eagle Talon
PT Cruiser GT Turbo - PT Cruiser
612 Scaglietti - Ferrari 612
FTO GP Version R - Mitsubishi FTO
240 SX SE - Nissan 240SX
SLR - Mercedes SLR
RX-7 Turbo - RX-7 Gen 2
CLK55 AMG Coupe - Mercedes CLK55
CTS-V - CTS-V
Esperante GTL - Esperante GTL
Sport Clio V6 RS - Renault Clio V6
Mustang GT - Mustang GT
ME Four-Twelve - ME Four-Twelve
#42 McLaren F1 GTR - #42 F1 GTR
DB9 Coupe - DB9 Coupe
Viper Competition Coupe - Viper Comp Cpe
Cupra GT Prototype - SEAT Cupra GT
Ford GT - Ford GT
#7 Speed 8 - #7 Speed 8
#5 OPC Team Phoenix Astra V8 - #5 Astra V8
Exige - Lotus Exige
CL65 AMG - Mercedes CL65
#12 Risi Competizione F333SP - #12 F333 SP
#41 Davidoff McLaren F1 GTR - #41 F1 GTR
Skyline - Skyline V35
Altezza RS200 - Toyota Altezza
NSX-R - Honda NSX-R
Mugen Integra Type-R - Mugen Integra
#18 JGTC NSX - #18 JGTC NSX
Lingenfelter 427 Corvette - Lingenfelter
Speedster Turbo - Opel Speedster
#8 JGTC NSX - #8 JGTC NSX
#64 JGTC NSX - #64 JGTC NSX
Hennessey Viper 800TT - Hennessey Viper
Saleen Mustang S281 - Saleen S281
MX-5 Miata Sport - Mazda MX-5
Mine's CP9A Lancer EVO VI - Mine's EVO VI
Celica 1.8 WT-I T Sport - Celica Sport
#1 Champion S4 Comp - #1 S4 Comp
F355 Challenge - Ferrari F355
#23 Viper Competition Coupe - #23 Viper CC
#22 Viper Competition Coupe - #22 Viper CC
#10 Tiger Racing Mustang - #10 Mustang
RX-8 Mazdaspeed - RX-8 Mazdaspeed
#51 Team Oreca Viper GTS-R - #51 Viper GTS-R
MR-S - Toyota MR-S
Mugen Civic Type-R - Mugen Civic
#53 Team Oreca Viper GTS-R - #53 Viper GTS-R
#42 RealTime Racing NSX - #42 Acura NSX
#1 Viper GTS-R - #1 Viper GTS
#88 IMSA 550 Maranello - #88 550M
Impreza 2.5RS Coupe - Subaru RS
#2 IMSA S7R - #2 Saleen S7R
Corvette Guldstrand Edition - Guldstrand
#1 Champion RS 6 - #1 Audi RS 6
#3 IMSA Corvette C5-R - #3 Corvette C5R
Elise - Lotus Elise 135
Tuscan R - TVR Tuscan R
Lancer Evolution VI TME - EVO VI TME
Integra Type-R - Integra Type-R
Tom's Z382 Soarer - Tom's Z382
#24 At-Speed S60 R - #24 S60 R
Fairlady Twin Turbo - Nissan Z32
#6 OPC Team Phoenix Astra V8 - #6 Astra V8
Skyline GT-RV Spec II Nur - Skyline R34 Nur
RX-7 Spirit R - RX-7 Spirit R
Mine's Skyline GT-R R34 - Mine's R34
#22 3R-Racing 911 GT3 Cup - #22 911 GT3 Cup
Soarer 430SCV - Soarer 430SCV
#77 JGTC Impreza - #77 Impreza
#3 JGTC Z33 - #3 Z33
#73 Corvette Z06 - #73 CorvetteZ06
Fairlady - Nissan Z33
Lancer Evolution VIII FQ-330 - EVO VIII FQ-330
Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b - TommyKaira M20b
Mugen S2000 - Mugen S2000
Tom's T020 MR2 - Tom's T020
#23 IMSA 911 GT3-RS - #23 911 GT3-RS
#3 CLK-DTM - #3 CLK-DTM
#17 IMSA Zonda GR - #17 Zonda GR
#38 Champion R8 - #38 Audi R8
#4 Johansson R8 - #4 Audi R8
NSX-R - Honda NSX-R
Tom's W123 MR-S - Tom's W123
Mugen NSX - Mugen NSX
#12 JGTC Skyline - #12 Skyline
#36 JGTC Supra - #36 JGTC Supra
Silvia - Silvia S14
Shelby Mustang GT-500KR - 1968 GT-500KR
#1 JGTC Supra - #1 JGTC Supra
#23 JGTC Skyline - #23 Skyline
#16 SCCA CTS-V - #16 CTS-V
#43 M3-GTR - #43 M3-GTR
#42 M3-GTR - #42 M3-GTR
Challenge Stradale - Ferrari 360 CS
AB Flug RX-7 - AB Flug RX-7
AB Flug S900 Supra Turbo - AB Flug S900
APR Performance Celica GTS - APR Celica
Camaro SS Coupe - 1969 Camaro SS
Integra Type-R - Integra Type-R
INGS RX-7 - INGS RX-7
Mine's Skyline GT-R R32 - Mine's R32
RE-Amamiya RX-7 - RE-RX7
Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII - Sparco EVO VIII
Impreza WRX STi Spec-C - Subaru STi C
Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34 - TommyKaira R34
VeilSide Supra Fortune 03 - VeilSide F03
VeilSide Supra Fortune 99 - VeilSide F99
VIS Racing Integra Type-R - VIS Integra
Aerogear Integra Type-R - AerogearIntegra
Border MR2 Turbo T-bar - Border MR2
VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-bar - VIS MR2
Wings West Civic Type-R - WingsWest Civic
#8 ABT TT-R - #8 ABT TT-R
Ferraris are heavily in. Lots of nice cars are in. Hope that game will be better then demo is.
Tried to edit, but gave up, don't have time.
Corvette Z06 - Corvette Z06
NSX - Acura NSX 97
Focus SVT - Ford Focus
#1 Infineon R8 - #1 Audi R8
Corvette Stingray 427 - 1967 Stingray
Impreza WRX Sti - Subaru STi
RX-7 Turbo - RX-7 Gen 3
Civic Type-R - Civic Type-R
575M Maranello - Ferrari 575M
Integra Type-R - Acura Integra
RSX Type-S - Acura RSX
300SL Gullwing Coupe - 1954 300SL
#11 D2 CLK-GTR - #11 CLK-GTR
Supra Twin Turbo - Supra TT
Celica GT-S - Celica GT-S
911 Carrera RS - 1973 911 RS
Lancer Evolution VIII GSR - EVO VIII GSR
S4 - Audi S4
TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro - Audi TT
VX220 Turbo - Vauxhall VX220
Golf R32 - VW Golf R32
Corrado SLC - VW Corrado
SC430 - Lexus SC430
Viper GTS ACR - Viper GTS ACR
Eclipse GSX - Eclipse GSX
206 Gti 180 - Peugeot 206
360 Modena F1 - Ferrari 360 F1
350Z Track - Nissan 350Z
Miata MX-5 1.8i Sport - Mazda Miata
AE86 Sprinter Trueno GT Apex - AE86 GT Apex
Prelude Type SH - Honda Prelude
RX-8 - Mazda RX-8
MR2 Turbo T-Bar - MR2 Mark II
250 GTO - 1964 250 GTO
Cobra 427 SC - 1967 Cobra
#8 LMP-02 - #8 LMP-02
Enzo - Ferrari Enzo
F50 - Ferrari F50
GT40 MK II - 1966 GT40
XJ220 - Jaguar XJ220
CC8S - Koenigsegg CC
#32 R390 GT1 - #32 R390 GT1
#27 GT-ONE TS020 - #27 TS020
Zonda C12 - Pagani Zonda
Civic Si Coupe - Civic Si Coupe
3000GT VR-4 - 3000GT VR-4
Series 1 - Shelby Series 1
Tiburon GT - Hyundai Tiburon
New Beetle Turbo S - New Beetle
ProtÈgÈ MAZDASPEED - Mazda ProtÈgÈ
G35 Coupe - Infiniti G35
Tuscan S - TVR Tuscan S
Civic Del Sol VTEC - Civic Del Sol
Eclipse GTS - Eclipse GTS
SRT4 - Dodge SRT4
Accord Coupe EX - Honda Accord
3.2 CL Type-S - Acura 3.2 CL
S4 Biturbo - Audi S4 Biturbo
512TR - Ferrari 512TR
C32 AMG Sports Coupe - Mercedes C32
Jetta GLX VR6 - VW Jetta
959 - Porsche 959
Stealth R/T Turbo - Dodge Stealth
Challenger R/T Hemi - 1970 Challenger
Camry Solara - Toyota Camry
Camaro SS - Camaro SS
288 GTO - Ferrari 288 GTO
F40 - Ferrari F40
Viper SRT10 - Viper SRT10
#15 V12 LMR - #15 V12 LMR
#21 SpA Ferrari SEFAC 330 P4 - #21 330 P4
911 GT3 - Porsche 911 GT3
Carrera GT - Carrera GT
#26 911 GT1-98 - #26 911 GT1-98
550 Spyder - 1955 550 Spyder
Datsun 240 ZX - 1972 240ZX
2000GT - 1969 2000GT
Stratos HF Stradale - 1974 Stratos
Elise 111S - Lotus Elise 111
Impreza 22B Sti - Subaru 22B
Vanquish - Vanquish
E-type S1 - 1961 E-type
IS300 - Lexus IS300
300ZX Twin Turbo Version R - Nissan 300ZX
Altima 3.5 SE - Nissan Altima
911 Turbo - Porsche 911 T
Silvia Spec-R - Silvia S15
944 Turbo - Porsche 944
S2000 - Honda S2000
Skyline GT-RV Spec II - Skyline R34
Dino 246 GT - 1969 Dino 246GT
#17 Rothmans 962 C - #17 962 C
#3 Moretti Racing F333 SP - #3 F333 SP
Esprit V8 - Lotus Esprit
9-3 Viggen - Saab 9-3
Cerbera Speed 12 - TVR Cerbera
Mustang Boss 429 - 1970 Mustang
GTO - Pontiac GTO
S7 - Saleen S7
Elan Sprint - 1972 Elan
S60 R - Volvo S60 R
Skyline GT-R - Skyline R32
Civic Si - Civic Si Hatch
3 Sport - Mazda 3
Cooper-S - MINI Cooper-S
#10 JML LMP01 EPP - #10 LMP01 EPP
Mustang Cobra R - Mustang Cobra R
GTO Hardtop - 1968 GTO
Delta Integrale EVO - Lancia Delta
355 F1 GTS - Ferrari 355
MR2 Spyder - MR2 Spyder
RS 6 - Audi RS6
Regal GNX - Regal GNX
911 GT2 - Porsche 911 GT2
Camaro Z28 - 1969 Camaro Z28
Continental GT - Continental GT
Lancer Evolution VI GSR - EVO VI GSR
CRX Si-R - CRX Si-R
Boxster S - Boxster S
Supra Turbo - Supra Mk III
Corvette C6 - Corvette C6
NSX - Acura NSX
Talon TSi Turbo - Eagle Talon
PT Cruiser GT Turbo - PT Cruiser
612 Scaglietti - Ferrari 612
FTO GP Version R - Mitsubishi FTO
240 SX SE - Nissan 240SX
SLR - Mercedes SLR
RX-7 Turbo - RX-7 Gen 2
CLK55 AMG Coupe - Mercedes CLK55
CTS-V - CTS-V
Esperante GTL - Esperante GTL
Sport Clio V6 RS - Renault Clio V6
Mustang GT - Mustang GT
ME Four-Twelve - ME Four-Twelve
#42 McLaren F1 GTR - #42 F1 GTR
DB9 Coupe - DB9 Coupe
Viper Competition Coupe - Viper Comp Cpe
Cupra GT Prototype - SEAT Cupra GT
Ford GT - Ford GT
#7 Speed 8 - #7 Speed 8
#5 OPC Team Phoenix Astra V8 - #5 Astra V8
Exige - Lotus Exige
CL65 AMG - Mercedes CL65
#12 Risi Competizione F333SP - #12 F333 SP
#41 Davidoff McLaren F1 GTR - #41 F1 GTR
Skyline - Skyline V35
Altezza RS200 - Toyota Altezza
NSX-R - Honda NSX-R
Mugen Integra Type-R - Mugen Integra
#18 JGTC NSX - #18 JGTC NSX
Lingenfelter 427 Corvette - Lingenfelter
Speedster Turbo - Opel Speedster
#8 JGTC NSX - #8 JGTC NSX
#64 JGTC NSX - #64 JGTC NSX
Hennessey Viper 800TT - Hennessey Viper
Saleen Mustang S281 - Saleen S281
MX-5 Miata Sport - Mazda MX-5
Mine's CP9A Lancer EVO VI - Mine's EVO VI
Celica 1.8 WT-I T Sport - Celica Sport
#1 Champion S4 Comp - #1 S4 Comp
F355 Challenge - Ferrari F355
#23 Viper Competition Coupe - #23 Viper CC
#22 Viper Competition Coupe - #22 Viper CC
#10 Tiger Racing Mustang - #10 Mustang
RX-8 Mazdaspeed - RX-8 Mazdaspeed
#51 Team Oreca Viper GTS-R - #51 Viper GTS-R
MR-S - Toyota MR-S
Mugen Civic Type-R - Mugen Civic
#53 Team Oreca Viper GTS-R - #53 Viper GTS-R
#42 RealTime Racing NSX - #42 Acura NSX
#1 Viper GTS-R - #1 Viper GTS
#88 IMSA 550 Maranello - #88 550M
Impreza 2.5RS Coupe - Subaru RS
#2 IMSA S7R - #2 Saleen S7R
Corvette Guldstrand Edition - Guldstrand
#1 Champion RS 6 - #1 Audi RS 6
#3 IMSA Corvette C5-R - #3 Corvette C5R
Elise - Lotus Elise 135
Tuscan R - TVR Tuscan R
Lancer Evolution VI TME - EVO VI TME
Integra Type-R - Integra Type-R
Tom's Z382 Soarer - Tom's Z382
#24 At-Speed S60 R - #24 S60 R
Fairlady Twin Turbo - Nissan Z32
#6 OPC Team Phoenix Astra V8 - #6 Astra V8
Skyline GT-RV Spec II Nur - Skyline R34 Nur
RX-7 Spirit R - RX-7 Spirit R
Mine's Skyline GT-R R34 - Mine's R34
#22 3R-Racing 911 GT3 Cup - #22 911 GT3 Cup
Soarer 430SCV - Soarer 430SCV
#77 JGTC Impreza - #77 Impreza
#3 JGTC Z33 - #3 Z33
#73 Corvette Z06 - #73 CorvetteZ06
Fairlady - Nissan Z33
Lancer Evolution VIII FQ-330 - EVO VIII FQ-330
Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b - TommyKaira M20b
Mugen S2000 - Mugen S2000
Tom's T020 MR2 - Tom's T020
#23 IMSA 911 GT3-RS - #23 911 GT3-RS
#3 CLK-DTM - #3 CLK-DTM
#17 IMSA Zonda GR - #17 Zonda GR
#38 Champion R8 - #38 Audi R8
#4 Johansson R8 - #4 Audi R8
NSX-R - Honda NSX-R
Tom's W123 MR-S - Tom's W123
Mugen NSX - Mugen NSX
#12 JGTC Skyline - #12 Skyline
#36 JGTC Supra - #36 JGTC Supra
Silvia - Silvia S14
Shelby Mustang GT-500KR - 1968 GT-500KR
#1 JGTC Supra - #1 JGTC Supra
#23 JGTC Skyline - #23 Skyline
#16 SCCA CTS-V - #16 CTS-V
#43 M3-GTR - #43 M3-GTR
#42 M3-GTR - #42 M3-GTR
Challenge Stradale - Ferrari 360 CS
AB Flug RX-7 - AB Flug RX-7
AB Flug S900 Supra Turbo - AB Flug S900
APR Performance Celica GTS - APR Celica
Camaro SS Coupe - 1969 Camaro SS
Integra Type-R - Integra Type-R
INGS RX-7 - INGS RX-7
Mine's Skyline GT-R R32 - Mine's R32
RE-Amamiya RX-7 - RE-RX7
Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII - Sparco EVO VIII
Impreza WRX STi Spec-C - Subaru STi C
Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34 - TommyKaira R34
VeilSide Supra Fortune 03 - VeilSide F03
VeilSide Supra Fortune 99 - VeilSide F99
VIS Racing Integra Type-R - VIS Integra
Aerogear Integra Type-R - AerogearIntegra
Border MR2 Turbo T-bar - Border MR2
VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-bar - VIS MR2
Wings West Civic Type-R - WingsWest Civic
#8 ABT TT-R - #8 ABT TT-R
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hello,
well, nice car list, but 3 times the Audi R8 in Forza is as useless as 10 times the Nissan NSX in GT4.
Furthermore, i don't like the graphics of Forza. It's not as photorealistic as GT4 ones. But it looks also better, than anything else before.
This morning, a friend told me, that he has read in one of the XBox-Developer-Boards, that Forza will be delayed from February 05 to April 05. Has anyone more information about this fact?
well, nice car list, but 3 times the Audi R8 in Forza is as useless as 10 times the Nissan NSX in GT4.
Furthermore, i don't like the graphics of Forza. It's not as photorealistic as GT4 ones. But it looks also better, than anything else before.
This morning, a friend told me, that he has read in one of the XBox-Developer-Boards, that Forza will be delayed from February 05 to April 05. Has anyone more information about this fact?
