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Hyde
You think it's better to have car that reacts likes rock when hitting wall without any damage whatsoever ?
Hyde you talk about Code_kev being fanboy but if you re-read all your post, You are at the same level of CobraGT on the Fanboy chart. If you were a car fan, you would buy Forza, Enthusia, GTR and GT4 but obviously you set your mind on only one thing. So who's one-sided ?
LampHope that the final version's final level damage is realistic then.
I dont' want to speculate too much. not alot of information has been given so far beside the 3 level gap in the damage settings. Of course we want realistic damage like GTR has. We are no fool. We want the same thing.
LampJust a cover-up.
Why would I do that. I have the same interest in GT4 than any of you have. I'm not close minded thought. I look at every single product available. I will probably buy all of them too.
Between my favorite progam with Chip foose Overhaulin', Rides, Monster Garage and OCC, I'm probably browsing car on the internet or gathering footage for the website. You can say that i'm a car fanatics.
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sym, I'm not denying you are a car lover, but I do believe you are as bias as me and maybe more. You have made some very ignorant statements before. First you say gt5 will be the forza kill. What does that suppose to mean? gt4 is a pos? Then you go to say forza isn't as polished as gt4 in visuals but next thing you know, you're saying forza completely owns gt4 in visuals. You have said some other ignorant things but damn I'm not gonna take 20 hours to get all the bs you have said. Honestly, I believe you are 2 faced.
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Yes Symtex, I'd rather have multiple Skylines or Lan Evo's etc. over Ferrari's in the game.
I have more fun from finding the subtle differences between those models than messing around in the Zonda or some other annoying Supercar.
Supercars are just less fun to me, I prefer the touring cars or average kinda road cars... LM cars are also fun but generally handle too well.
My fun comes from taking pretty average cars and tuning them to go around specific circuits fast, rather than just jump into some Ferrari I'd rather take an average car and personalise it to me, and then enjoy driving it.
As for people not buying all these driving games not being car nuts.. that's completely stupid. I have a PS2, I will buy GT4. I have a PC.. I will not get GT-R.. namely cause it's still not out here (not that I have checked) and because I wont have time to play it with GT4. As for Xbox racers, I wont bother with those cause I don't have or want an Xbox. I don't care about Halo/Halo2 and after trying Halo2 the other day I would infact say it didn't impress me at all.. the graphics looked far far worse than I seemed to remember of Halo2.. but perhaps that's cause the TV was beside the PC's monitor which was playing HalfLife2.
GT4 is all I need/want... Enthusia may get a look from me if it comes out on the PS2 or PC... aside from that I don't really care what other racing games do.
It was GT that made me get a Playstation, I hated Playstations before that... they sucked, they had no really good games and the Saturn was a far better gaming machine. GT3 made me get a PS2... it was so amazing after borrowing a friends PS2 for a while with GT3 on it I bought it, at first I thought GT3 was awful, it felt terribly slow compared to GT2, but I was so used to shoddy GT2 that I had a warped opinion of GT3... after getting used to GT3, GT2 feels awful and seems to run jerky and slow and annoying... Point is... GT has sold me a Playstation and a PS2.. No other single game has ever made me buy an entire console just to play it..
If Forza can make me like it so much that I would rather have it than GT4 and would rather spend over £100 just to get it then Forza will be purchased by me.
I don't see this happening however.
Also I might add that most people you speak to on this board own a PS2 only and thus will not be buying Xbox + Forza unless it completely dwarves the GT4 to warrant such a great expense.
I should also add that Forza wont be bought by me whilst there is no FF wheel for it... without the wheel Forza is completely inferior to GT4, no matter how much they add to Forza it will never beat GT4 if it uses that godawful pad. Forza can have 2000 cars and 300 tracks and still not beat GT4 purely because it lacks a wheel. So I advise you Forza lovers to also consider that.
I have more fun from finding the subtle differences between those models than messing around in the Zonda or some other annoying Supercar.
Supercars are just less fun to me, I prefer the touring cars or average kinda road cars... LM cars are also fun but generally handle too well.
My fun comes from taking pretty average cars and tuning them to go around specific circuits fast, rather than just jump into some Ferrari I'd rather take an average car and personalise it to me, and then enjoy driving it.
As for people not buying all these driving games not being car nuts.. that's completely stupid. I have a PS2, I will buy GT4. I have a PC.. I will not get GT-R.. namely cause it's still not out here (not that I have checked) and because I wont have time to play it with GT4. As for Xbox racers, I wont bother with those cause I don't have or want an Xbox. I don't care about Halo/Halo2 and after trying Halo2 the other day I would infact say it didn't impress me at all.. the graphics looked far far worse than I seemed to remember of Halo2.. but perhaps that's cause the TV was beside the PC's monitor which was playing HalfLife2.
GT4 is all I need/want... Enthusia may get a look from me if it comes out on the PS2 or PC... aside from that I don't really care what other racing games do.
It was GT that made me get a Playstation, I hated Playstations before that... they sucked, they had no really good games and the Saturn was a far better gaming machine. GT3 made me get a PS2... it was so amazing after borrowing a friends PS2 for a while with GT3 on it I bought it, at first I thought GT3 was awful, it felt terribly slow compared to GT2, but I was so used to shoddy GT2 that I had a warped opinion of GT3... after getting used to GT3, GT2 feels awful and seems to run jerky and slow and annoying... Point is... GT has sold me a Playstation and a PS2.. No other single game has ever made me buy an entire console just to play it..
If Forza can make me like it so much that I would rather have it than GT4 and would rather spend over £100 just to get it then Forza will be purchased by me.
I don't see this happening however.
Also I might add that most people you speak to on this board own a PS2 only and thus will not be buying Xbox + Forza unless it completely dwarves the GT4 to warrant such a great expense.
I should also add that Forza wont be bought by me whilst there is no FF wheel for it... without the wheel Forza is completely inferior to GT4, no matter how much they add to Forza it will never beat GT4 if it uses that godawful pad. Forza can have 2000 cars and 300 tracks and still not beat GT4 purely because it lacks a wheel. So I advise you Forza lovers to also consider that.
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code_kev
Yeah but that's not the point. I was judging each system individually. PS2 seems to have an easier time running great looking games at a high framerate than Xbox has when running it's best games. It's because the CPU is a piece of junk while the GPU is so overpowered. It can produce state of the art graphics (Well almost) and can't run them fast.
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Well the piece of "junk" out performs it on multiformat games. Games like ninga gaiden utterly rubbish your theory to btw. Care to show me a ps2 game that looks as good as ninja gaiden from a technical standpoint and runs as smooth? It all depends on the game, many run at 60, and many run at 30 on both machines. If we are gonna talk about yo yo frame rates, i think the getaway on the Ps2 is a good example. I'm not putting down the ps2's graphics as some game slook really cool for it, but saying they are better is...well rubbish.
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- Minus955
I saw a preview on TV on those Spike TV awards last night, and they showed a bit of Forza. I'm still disappointed - while it does looks decent, it just doesn't look realistic. I will have a look at it, though, to see how they pulled off the damage. Looks to me, from screens, that it's pretty bad.
This one is just for you CobraGT :
http://www.eurogamer.net/
Forza Motorsports :
More robust, more accurate, more depth than Gran Turismo 4, says Microsoft's Kiki Wolfkill. That's "Wolfkill". You're not going to argue, are you?
Eurogamer: You've obviously played Gran Turismo a huge amount. What's the main inspiration you've taken from it?
Kiki Wolfkill: I think the main feeling that comes out of Gran Turismo is very must the respect for motor sport, and that certainly is the foundation on which we started. I think we have the same level of respect. But we want more out of racing games, rather than the same racing games forever.
http://www.eurogamer.net/
Forza Motorsports :
More robust, more accurate, more depth than Gran Turismo 4, says Microsoft's Kiki Wolfkill. That's "Wolfkill". You're not going to argue, are you?
Eurogamer: You've obviously played Gran Turismo a huge amount. What's the main inspiration you've taken from it?
Kiki Wolfkill: I think the main feeling that comes out of Gran Turismo is very must the respect for motor sport, and that certainly is the foundation on which we started. I think we have the same level of respect. But we want more out of racing games, rather than the same racing games forever.
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Symtex, Guerilla promised a lot with KillZone as you might recall but came up far short of what they set out to accomplish.
"Our game will be better than *Insert high profile competition*" statments aren't what I'd call reliable.
"Our game will be better than *Insert high profile competition*" statments aren't what I'd call reliable.
FozzyFan116
You got a point. Do you know who kiki Wolfkill is ? She an ex professional car driver. (look really nice too). So when she said that the physic are going to be good, I tend to believe her.
She might be wrong though and I'll will be the first one to admit it if she is. I do not pledge alliance to any games.
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Maven
Most likely. I hope the lighting is better than PGR2's night racing.
Ubiquitous
I seriously cracked up reading that. Good show.
Looking for subtle differences between an evo 7 GSR and an RS in GT3 is about as tedious as life can get. But if you enjoy being boring, hey, nobody's gonna stop you.
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code_kev
Multiplatform games never take advantage of any specific consoles functions (Unless they're built from the ground up on one and sloppily ported to the other ala Splinter Cell). Most just use some form of renderware like technology that doesn't bush any bounderies, a very basic/meat and potatoes kind of game engine.
I didn't say PS2 games looked better, ugg. Learn to read (and comprehend). I said the better looking games on PS2 tend to run faster than the better looking games on Xbox. There are exceptions the ratio is very clear. For example (Not exact figures) 80% of the good looking Xbox games run at 30fps while the other 20% of the lookers manage 60. Then you could take that ratio and flip it around for PS2. I only started this because Elitewolverine brought up raw power and how PS2 didn't have enough when in actuality for it's time it had plenty while Xbox for IT'S time probably didn't have as much raw processing abilities as it should've.
As for Ninja Gaiden it looks awesome, but it does lack certain things that 30fps Xbox titles tend to have. High res textures (I mean like Halo and Halo 2 quality), larger draw distances. The game has some fogging and aliasing issues, nothing series because the good so far outweighs the bad but still worthy of mention (Hardly though). Even PDO, another 60fps Xbox title lacks the draw distance you see in other games that don't run as fast (and even PS2 games that do, Jak 1, 2 & 3 anyone?). Not saying PS2 is better than Xbox, just making mention of these little facts.
