Forza

[CAMAROBOY69]

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428

Forza Central Exlusive Interview with Dan some interesting stuff !

Lots of excellent info in that thread.

 

[Dave A]

- japanese patriotism - GT series will always promote the values of Japanese automotive industry. Having Ferrari in the game would outshine all the other manufactorers and probably take oall the spotlights to the F. I just think that some people form Nissan, Toyota and Honda could maybe have something agaist F., and

- Ferrari's TRUE specs - other idea is that Ferrari just don't want to agree with the fact that some other cars - preferablly much cheaper or in lower-class then Ferrari (as "tend-to-real" prices were always a big part in GT series, as the fact we all do know the majority of prices outhere) - can be better car, faster car and bettr handling then Ferrari. Guess that something like that is just not acceptable from marketing point of view. Notice that Ferrari was always the "best car" in all games mentioned, or the only car available.

Those to points could be some explanation for lack of Ferrari, and maybe same goes for Porsche.

This I strongly dissagree with, first off, all the big guys at Honda, Mazda and Nissan do is negotiate a price for cetain cars to be in the game, preferrably which could boost their image, PD has a large measure of control on this too. All thoes manufacturers were upstaged as far as road cars were concerned in GT2, and the same goes for in GT4, GT2 had the Vectors, Venturi's, Lister, Lotus's and the list goes on. So that doesn't come into it, as for Ferrari being the best cars in any game, if it's road cars and the Enzo gets in, the chances are it will be the best since it's so damn good in real life (anyone see it go round the TopGear track a few weeks ago, it was fast with a capital DAMN), also as Code Kev mentioned before the fastest car in PGR2 was the Speed 12, it would beat the Enzo even so that theory has gone out the window. I have to say though, good thinking even though I findit flawed.

 

[kinigitt]

This I strongly dissagree with, first off, all the big guys at Honda, Mazda and Nissan do is negotiate a price for cetain cars to be in the game, preferrably which could boost their image, PD has a large measure of control on this too. All thoes manufacturers were upstaged as far as road cars were concerned in GT2, and the same goes for in GT4, GT2 had the Vectors, Venturi's, Lister, Lotus's and the list goes on. So that doesn't come into it, as for Ferrari being the best cars in any game, if it's road cars and the Enzo gets in, the chances are it will be the best since it's so damn good in real life (anyone see it go round the TopGear track a few weeks ago, it was fast with a capital DAMN), also as Code Kev mentioned before the fastest car in PGR2 was the Speed 12, it would beat the Enzo even so that theory has gone out the window. I have to say though, good thinking even though I findit flawed.

Other cars that were faster and better-handling than the ferraris in their class (PGR2): Porsche GT1, Pagani Zonda S, Koenigsegg CCS V8, Mercedes CLK-GTR, Noble M12 GTO, Delfino Feroce, TVR tuscan speed 6.

 

[kinigitt]

Here's a car list that's "confirmed" by microsoft, from totalvideogames.com

http://www.totalvideogames.com/pages/articles/index.php?game_id=3690&article_id=6861

for convenience, I'll just paste it here:

Corvette Z06 - Corvette Z06
NSX - Acura NSX 97
Focus SVT - Ford Focus
#1 Infineon R8 - #1 Audi R8
Corvette Stingray 427 - 1967 Stingray
Impreza WRX Sti - Subaru STi
RX-7 Turbo - RX-7 Gen 3
Civic Type-R - Civic Type-R
575M Maranello - Ferrari 575M
Integra Type-R - Acura Integra
RSX Type-S - Acura RSX
300SL Gullwing Coupe - 1954 300SL
#11 D2 CLK-GTR - #11 CLK-GTR
Supra Twin Turbo - Supra TT
Celica GT-S - Celica GT-S
911 Carrera RS - 1973 911 RS
Lancer Evolution VIII GSR - EVO VIII GSR
S4 - Audi S4
TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro - Audi TT
VX220 Turbo - Vauxhall VX220
Golf R32 - VW Golf R32
Corrado SLC - VW Corrado
SC430 - Lexus SC430
Viper GTS ACR - Viper GTS ACR
Eclipse GSX - Eclipse GSX
206 Gti 180 - Peugeot 206
360 Modena F1 - Ferrari 360 F1
350Z Track - Nissan 350Z
Miata MX-5 1.8i Sport - Mazda Miata
AE86 Sprinter Trueno GT Apex - AE86 GT Apex
Prelude Type SH - Honda Prelude
RX-8 - Mazda RX-8
MR2 Turbo T-Bar - MR2 Mark II
250 GTO - 1964 250 GTO
Cobra 427 SC - 1967 Cobra
#8 LMP-02 - #8 LMP-02
Enzo - Ferrari Enzo
F50 - Ferrari F50
GT40 MK II - 1966 GT40
XJ220 - Jaguar XJ220
CC8S - Koenigsegg CC
#32 R390 GT1 - #32 R390 GT1
#27 GT-ONE TS020 - #27 TS020
Zonda C12 - Pagani Zonda
Civic Si Coupe - Civic Si Coupe
3000GT VR-4 - 3000GT VR-4
Series 1 - Shelby Series 1
Tiburon GT - Hyundai Tiburon
New Beetle Turbo S - New Beetle
Protégé MAZDASPEED - Mazda Protégé
G35 Coupe - Infiniti G35
Tuscan S - TVR Tuscan S
Civic Del Sol VTEC - Civic Del Sol
Eclipse GTS - Eclipse GTS
SRT4 - Dodge SRT4
Accord Coupe EX - Honda Accord
3.2 CL Type-S - Acura 3.2 CL
S4 Biturbo - Audi S4 Biturbo
512TR - Ferrari 512TR
C32 AMG Sports Coupe - Mercedes C32
Jetta GLX VR6 - VW Jetta
959 - Porsche 959
Stealth R/T Turbo - Dodge Stealth
Challenger R/T Hemi - 1970 Challenger
Camry Solara - Toyota Camry
Camaro SS - Camaro SS
288 GTO - Ferrari 288 GTO
F40 - Ferrari F40
Viper SRT10 - Viper SRT10
#15 V12 LMR - #15 V12 LMR
#21 SpA Ferrari SEFAC 330 P4 - #21 330 P4
911 GT3 - Porsche 911 GT3
Carrera GT - Carrera GT
#26 911 GT1-98 - #26 911 GT1-98
550 Spyder - 1955 550 Spyder
Datsun 240 ZX - 1972 240ZX
2000GT - 1969 2000GT
Stratos HF Stradale - 1974 Stratos
Elise 111S - Lotus Elise 111
Impreza 22B Sti - Subaru 22B
Vanquish - Vanquish
E-type S1 - 1961 E-type
IS300 - Lexus IS300
300ZX Twin Turbo Version R - Nissan 300ZX
Altima 3.5 SE - Nissan Altima
911 Turbo - Porsche 911 T
Silvia Spec-R - Silvia S15
944 Turbo - Porsche 944
S2000 - Honda S2000
Skyline GT-RV Spec II - Skyline R34
Dino 246 GT - 1969 Dino 246GT
#17 Rothmans 962 C - #17 962 C
#3 Moretti Racing F333 SP - #3 F333 SP
Esprit V8 - Lotus Esprit
9-3 Viggen - Saab 9-3
Cerbera Speed 12 - TVR Cerbera
Mustang Boss 429 - 1970 Mustang
GTO - Pontiac GTO
S7 - Saleen S7
Elan Sprint - 1972 Elan
S60 R - Volvo S60 R
Skyline GT-R - Skyline R32
Civic Si - Civic Si Hatch
3 Sport - Mazda 3
Cooper-S - MINI Cooper-S
#10 JML LMP01 EPP - #10 LMP01 EPP
Mustang Cobra R - Mustang Cobra R
GTO Hardtop - 1968 GTO
Delta Integrale EVO - Lancia Delta
355 F1 GTS - Ferrari 355
MR2 Spyder - MR2 Spyder
RS 6 - Audi RS6
Regal GNX - Regal GNX
911 GT2 - Porsche 911 GT2
Camaro Z28 - 1969 Camaro Z28
Continental GT - Continental GT
Lancer Evolution VI GSR - EVO VI GSR
CRX Si-R - CRX Si-R
Boxster S - Boxster S
Supra Turbo - Supra Mk III
Corvette C6 - Corvette C6
NSX - Acura NSX
Talon TSi Turbo - Eagle Talon
PT Cruiser GT Turbo - PT Cruiser
612 Scaglietti - Ferrari 612
FTO GP Version R - Mitsubishi FTO
240 SX SE - Nissan 240SX
SLR - Mercedes SLR
RX-7 Turbo - RX-7 Gen 2
CLK55 AMG Coupe - Mercedes CLK55
CTS-V - CTS-V
Esperante GTL - Esperante GTL
Sport Clio V6 RS - Renault Clio V6
Mustang GT - Mustang GT
ME Four-Twelve - ME Four-Twelve
#42 McLaren F1 GTR - #42 F1 GTR
DB9 Coupe - DB9 Coupe
Viper Competition Coupe - Viper Comp Cpe
Cupra GT Prototype - SEAT Cupra GT
Ford GT - Ford GT
#7 Speed 8 - #7 Speed 8
#5 OPC Team Phoenix Astra V8 - #5 Astra V8
Exige - Lotus Exige
CL65 AMG - Mercedes CL65
#12 Risi Competizione F333SP - #12 F333 SP
#41 Davidoff McLaren F1 GTR - #41 F1 GTR
Skyline - Skyline V35
Altezza RS200 - Toyota Altezza
NSX-R - Honda NSX-R
Mugen Integra Type-R - Mugen Integra
#18 JGTC NSX - #18 JGTC NSX
Lingenfelter 427 Corvette - Lingenfelter
Speedster Turbo - Opel Speedster
#8 JGTC NSX - #8 JGTC NSX
#64 JGTC NSX - #64 JGTC NSX
Hennessey Viper 800TT - Hennessey Viper
Saleen Mustang S281 - Saleen S281
MX-5 Miata Sport - Mazda MX-5
Mine's CP9A Lancer EVO VI - Mine's EVO VI
Celica 1.8 WT-I T Sport - Celica Sport
#1 Champion S4 Comp - #1 S4 Comp
F355 Challenge - Ferrari F355
#23 Viper Competition Coupe - #23 Viper CC
#22 Viper Competition Coupe - #22 Viper CC
#10 Tiger Racing Mustang - #10 Mustang
RX-8 Mazdaspeed - RX-8 Mazdaspeed
#51 Team Oreca Viper GTS-R - #51 Viper GTS-R
MR-S - Toyota MR-S
Mugen Civic Type-R - Mugen Civic
#53 Team Oreca Viper GTS-R - #53 Viper GTS-R
#42 RealTime Racing NSX - #42 Acura NSX
#1 Viper GTS-R - #1 Viper GTS
#88 IMSA 550 Maranello - #88 550M
Impreza 2.5RS Coupe - Subaru RS
#2 IMSA S7R - #2 Saleen S7R
Corvette Guldstrand Edition - Guldstrand
#1 Champion RS 6 - #1 Audi RS 6
#3 IMSA Corvette C5-R - #3 Corvette C5R
Elise - Lotus Elise 135
Tuscan R - TVR Tuscan R
Lancer Evolution VI TME - EVO VI TME
Integra Type-R - Integra Type-R
Tom's Z382 Soarer - Tom's Z382
#24 At-Speed S60 R - #24 S60 R
Fairlady Twin Turbo - Nissan Z32
#6 OPC Team Phoenix Astra V8 - #6 Astra V8
Skyline GT-RV Spec II Nur - Skyline R34 Nur
RX-7 Spirit R - RX-7 Spirit R
Mine's Skyline GT-R R34 - Mine's R34
#22 3R-Racing 911 GT3 Cup - #22 911 GT3 Cup
Soarer 430SCV - Soarer 430SCV
#77 JGTC Impreza - #77 Impreza
#3 JGTC Z33 - #3 Z33
#73 Corvette Z06 - #73 CorvetteZ06
Fairlady - Nissan Z33
Lancer Evolution VIII FQ-330 - EVO VIII FQ-330
Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b - TommyKaira M20b
Mugen S2000 - Mugen S2000
Tom's T020 MR2 - Tom's T020
#23 IMSA 911 GT3-RS - #23 911 GT3-RS
#3 CLK-DTM - #3 CLK-DTM
#17 IMSA Zonda GR - #17 Zonda GR
#38 Champion R8 - #38 Audi R8
#4 Johansson R8 - #4 Audi R8
NSX-R - Honda NSX-R
Tom's W123 MR-S - Tom's W123
Mugen NSX - Mugen NSX
#12 JGTC Skyline - #12 Skyline
#36 JGTC Supra - #36 JGTC Supra
Silvia - Silvia S14
Shelby Mustang GT-500KR - 1968 GT-500KR
#1 JGTC Supra - #1 JGTC Supra
#23 JGTC Skyline - #23 Skyline
#16 SCCA CTS-V - #16 CTS-V
#43 M3-GTR - #43 M3-GTR
#42 M3-GTR - #42 M3-GTR
Challenge Stradale - Ferrari 360 CS
AB Flug RX-7 - AB Flug RX-7
AB Flug S900 Supra Turbo - AB Flug S900
APR Performance Celica GTS - APR Celica
Camaro SS Coupe - 1969 Camaro SS
Integra Type-R - Integra Type-R
INGS RX-7 - INGS RX-7
Mine's Skyline GT-R R32 - Mine's R32
RE-Amamiya RX-7 - RE-RX7
Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII - Sparco EVO VIII
Impreza WRX STi Spec-C - Subaru STi C
Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34 - TommyKaira R34
VeilSide Supra Fortune 03 - VeilSide F03
VeilSide Supra Fortune 99 - VeilSide F99
VIS Racing Integra Type-R - VIS Integra
Aerogear Integra Type-R - AerogearIntegra
Border MR2 Turbo T-bar - Border MR2
VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-bar - VIS MR2
Wings West Civic Type-R - WingsWest Civic
#8 ABT TT-R - #8 ABT TT-R

edit:

I posted a sorted version of the list here.

 

[Dave A]

Thats not the easiest list to read, they couldv'e given it some order at least.

 

[kinigitt]

Thats not the easiest list to read, they couldv'e given it some order at least.

I did. click the link.

 

[Dave A]

The list you posted is just copied from the link, theyre the same.

 

[98cobra]

Finally some Mustangs. I'll be picking that up as well.

 

[kinigitt]

The list you posted is just copied from the link, theyre the same.

?

click the link to the xbox forum. it's at the end of the post.

 

[Dave A]

Oh I missed that nicely done 👍.

 

[redfury]

Lingenfelter Vette and Hennesey Viper?! There might be a reason to buy an Xbox afterall......

 

[koishki]

just noticed a FERRARI 360 Modena in a video available from http://media.xbox.ign.com/media/682/682857/vids_1.html)

how did microsoft attain the licence to include the ITALIAN STALLION? thought it was privileged to EA or acclaim??? PD should be knocking on the doors of maranello for GT5.


also, just a comment re: Forza vs GT4... i think the competition should be healthy for both parties. they'll push each other in terms of development and features (damage, visual customisation, etc)

As far as I can remember, EA had the licenses for Ferrari and Porsche on Sony Systems, which expired in November. Which is the reason Sony wasn't able to buy the rights for the cars, but Microsoft was, because well, it isn't Sony.

 

[TSi_Shiftz]

I still want a game to include the 1G Eclipse's....

 

[Maven]

Finally some Mustangs. I'll be picking that up as well.

Mustangs? I just see the '70 Boss 429 and the Saleen that aren't also represented in GT4. Cool cars but still not a whole lot. Where are the Fox-chassis Stangs and the 64/65 cars?

I find it's an interesting list to compare to GT4's. The Buick GNX must be the new 'must have' car for racing games...

 

[mrchicken&fries]

I still want a game to include the 1G Eclipse's....

Just read the FM interview. Said the wheel has 7 programable features like sensitivity and 4 memory settings.

 

[kinigitt]

Mustangs? I just see the '70 Boss 429 and the Saleen that aren't also represented in GT4. Cool cars but still not a whole lot. Where are the Fox-chassis Stangs and the 64/65 cars?

I find it's an interesting list to compare to GT4's. The Buick GNX must be the new 'must have' car for racing games...

It's a partial list that is bound to change.

But it already has more mustangs (70 Boss 429, Shelby GT500KR, Saleen S281), and considering that they're an American dev studio out to sell games primarily in the west (there are about 4 xboxes sold in Japan), chances are they'll indulge their audience.

 

[mrchicken&fries]

It's a partial list that is bound to change.

But it already has more mustangs (70 Boss 429, Shelby GT500KR, Saleen S281), and considering that they're an American dev studio out to sell games primarily in the west (there are about 4 xboxes sold in Japan), chances are they'll indulge their audience.

Look at the crappy list of race event races just found on Forzacentral.com.

700 races! jeez how much does GT4 has? Meh who are going to race all these races.

Autocross (Asia, Europe, North America)
Autocross (Class D, Class C, Class B, Class S, Class A)
Autocross (FF)
Club Race (Asia, Europe, North America)
Club Race (Class D Spec, Class C Spec, Class B Spec, Class A Spec, Class S Spec)
Drift Race (FF, FR)
Drift Race (Asia, Europe, North America)
Drift Race (Class D, Class C, Class B, Class A, Class S)
Endurance (Class D, Class C, Class B, Class A, Class S)
Point to Point (Asia, Europe, North America)
Point to Point (Class D, Class C, Class B, Class A, Class S)
Series (Asia, Europe, North America)
Series (Class D, Class C, Class A, Class S)
Pro Series (Class B)
Club Race (FF, FR, AWD)
Club Race (Porsche 911)
Driver Challenge (Class D)
Instant Action
Autocross (FF, MR, AWD)
Autocross (Ultra Lightweights, Roadster)
Drift Race (MR, AWD)
Drift Race (North America - "Viper vs. Vette" - Grudge Match)
Drift Race (Japan - "RX7 vs. Supra" - Grudge Match)
Point to Point (Ultra Lightweights)(Single)
Club Race (MR)
Club Race (American Muscle pre '75)
Club Race (Classic Sports Cars pre '75)
Club Race (Rotary Engines)
Club Race (V12 Monsters)
Club Race (Roadster, Hatchback)
Spec Race (Rally - "Impreza vs. Lancer" - Grudge Match)
Club Race (North America - "Viper vs. Vette" - Grudge Match)
Club Race (Tuner - "Eclipse vs. Integra" - Grudge Match)
Club Race (Highlight Company - "Ferrari Supercars")
Club Race (Highlight Company - "Corvettes")
Club Race (Highlight Company - "Mustangs")
Spec Race (Highlight Company - "Skylines")
Spec Race (Highlight Company - "Acura NSXs")
Spec Race (R-GT, R-GTS, R-P1)
Spec Race (Ultra Lightweight)
Club Race (Heavyweights)
Spec Race (Mazda Miata)
Spec Race (AC 427)
Spec Race (MINI Cooper S)
Spec Race (Ferrari 360 Stradale)
Spec Race (Lotus Exige)
Autocross
Series (R-GT, R-GTS, R-P1)
Series (American Muscle pre '75, Classic Sports Cars pre '75)
Series (Ultra Lightweight)
Series (Rally - "Impreza vs. Lancer" - Grudge Match)
Series (North America - "Viper vs. Vette" - Grudge Match)
Series (Japan - "RX7 vs. Supra" Grudge Match)
Spec Race (Ford GT40 Series)
Endurance Races (R-GT, R-GTS, R-P1)
Endurance Races (Classic Sports Cars pre '75)
Endurance Race (Ford GT40 Series)
Online Career (Class D, Class C, Class B, Class A, Class S)
Online Career (R-GT, R-GTS, R-P1)
Online Career (Classic Sports Cars pre '75)
Arcade (Class C, Class B, Class A, Class S)
Arcade (Class R, Less then 200HP)
Autocross (Less then 200HP, Less then 300HP, Less then 400HP, Less then 500HP, Less then 600HP)
Club Race (Sport Saloons)
Club Race (Highlight Company - "Z cars")
Club Race (Super Cars - "Mercedes SLR vs. Carrera GT" - Grudge Match)
Drift Race (Less then 200HP, Less then 300HP, Less then 400HP, Less then 500HP, Less then 600HP)
Drift Race (AE86 Sprinter Trueo GT Apex (Corolla GT-S) - Spec Race)
Point to Point (Less then 200HP, Less then 300HP, Less then 400HP, Less then 500HP, Less then 600HP)
Spec Race (Less then 300HP, Less then 400HP, Less then 500HP, Less then 600HP)
Spec Race (TVR Tuscan R)
Trial Version Races
Point to Point (FF, AWD, FR, MR)
Point to Point (Rally - "Impreza vs. Lancer" - Grudge Match)
Series (Heavyweight)
Point to Point (Porsche 911 GT3)
Series (Porsche 911 GT3)
Autocross (racing for the Asian region)
Autocross (racing for the European region)
Autocross (racing for the North American region)
Autocross (racing with Class D cars only)
Autocross (racing with Class C cars only)
Autocross (racing with Class B cars only)
Autocross (racing with Class A cars only)
Autocross (racing with Class S cars only)
Autocross (racing for Rear Wheel Drive Front Engine Cars only)
Spec Race (racing for the Asian region)
Spec Race (racing for the European region)
Club Race (racing for the North American region)
Spec Race (racing with Class D cars only)
Spec Race (racing with Class C cars only)
Spec Race (racing with Class B cars only)
Spec Race (racing with Class A cars only)
Spec Race (racing with Class S cars only)
Drift Race (racing for Front Wheel Drive Front Engine Cars only)
Drift Race (racing for Rear Wheel Drive Front Engine Cars only)
Drift Race (racing for the Asian region)
Drift Race (racing for the European region)
Drift Race (racing for the North American region)
Drift Race (racing with Class D cars only)
Drift Race (racing with Class C cars only)
Drift Race (racing with Class B cars only)
Drift Race (racing with Class A cars only)
Drift Race (racing with Class S cars only)
Endurance Race (racing with Class D cars only)
Endurance Race (racing with Class C cars only)
Endurance Race (racing with Class B cars only)
Endurance Race (racing with Class A cars only)
Endurance Race (racing with Class S cars only)
Point to Point (racing for the Asian region)
Point to Point (racing for the European region)
Point to Point (racing for the North American region)
Point to Point (racing with Class D cars only)
Point to Point (racing with Class C cars only)
Point to Point (racing with Class B cars only)
Point to Point (racing with Class A cars only)
Point to Point (racing with Class S cars only)
Pro Series (racing for the Asian region)
Pro Series (racing for the European region)
Pro Series (racing for the North American region)
Pro Series (racing with Class D cars only)
Pro Series (racing with Class C cars only)
Pro Series (racing with Class B cars only)
Pro Series (racing with Class A cars only)
Pro Series (racing with Class S cars only)
Club Race (racing for Front Wheel Drive Front Engine cars only)
Club Race (racing for Rear Wheel Drive Front Engine cars only)
Special Event (racing for All Wheel Drive cars only)
Club Race (showcasing the Porsche 911)
Arcade (racing with Class D cars only)
Autocross (racing for Front Wheel Drive Front Engine cars only)
Autocross (racing for Rear Wheel Drive Mid Engine cars only)
Autocross (racing for All Wheel Drive cars only)
Autocross (racing with cars based on the Lotus Elise aluminum chassis)
Autocross (racing for Roadsters)
Drift Race (racing for Rear Wheel Drive Mid Engine cars only)
Drift Race (racing for All Wheel Drive cars only)
Drift Race (The Viper takes on the Corvette in the Drift race)
Drift Race (The RX-7 and the Supra duke it out in this Drift race)
Point to Point (racing with cars based on the Lotus Elise aluminum chassis)
Club Race (racing for Rear Wheel Drive Mid Engine cars only)
Club Race (using muscle cars made prior to 1975)
Club Race (using sports cars made prior to 1975)
Club Race (open only to rotary engine cars)
Club Race (open only to cars with enough power under the hood)
Club Race (with Roadsters)
Club Race (for hatchbacks - The Impreza takes on the Lancer The Corvette and the Viper)
Head to Head (Mitsubishi and Acura cars take to the track)
Club Race (open only to Ferrari supercars)
Special Event (racing open to Corvettes only)
Special Event (racing for Ford Mustangs only)
Spec Race (with Nissan Skylines only)
Special Event (racing open to Acura NSXs only)
Spec Race (with GT Class racing cars only)
Spec Race (with GTS Class racing cars only)
Spec Race (with Prototype racing cars only)
Spec Race (racing with cars based on the Lotus Elise aluminum chassis)
Spec Race (for cars weighing more than 4000 pounds)
Spec Race (for Mazda Miatas)
Club Race (for AC 427 roadster)
Spec Race (with the MINI Cooper S)
Spec Race (with the Ferrari 360 Stradale)
Autocross (with the Lotus Exige)
Pro Series (racing with GT Class racing cars only)
Pro Series (racing with GTS Class racing cars only)
Pro Series (racing with Prototype racing cars only)
Pro Series (using muscle cars made prior to 1975)
Pro Series (using sports cars made prior to 1975)
Series (racing with cars based on the Lotus Elise aluminum chassis)
Pro Series (The Impreza and the Lancer go pro)
Pro Series (racing classic as the Viper takes on the Corvette)
Pro Series (The RX-7 and the Supra head to head)
Pro Series (Ford GT)
Endurance Race (racing with GT Class racing cars only)
Endurance Race (racing with GTS Class racing cars only)
Endurance Race (racing with Prototype racing cars only)
Endurance Race (using sports cars made prior to 1975)
Endurane Race (The Ford GT 40 in this Endurance series)
Online Race (racing with Class D cars only)
Online Race (racing with Class C cars only)
Online Race (racing with Class B cars only)
Online Race (racing with Class A cars only)
Online Race (racing with Class S cars only)
Online Race (racing with GT Class racing cars only)
Online Race (racing with GTS Class racing cars only)
Online Race (racing with Prototype racing cars only)
Online Race (using sports cars made prior to 1975)
Arcade (racing with Class C cars only)
Arcade (racing with Class B cars only)
Arcade (racing with Class A cars only)
Arcade (racing with Class S cars only)
Arcade (racing with Class R cars only)
Autocross (Less then 200HP, Less then 300HP, Less then 400HP, Less then 500HP, Less then 600HP)
Club Race (using cars having less than 200HP)
Club Race (Four door sports sedans and saloons only)
Club Race (Nissan Z cars from the 240 ZX to the high-powered Fairlady versions)
Club Race (The Mercedes SLR goes toe-to-toe with the Porsche Carrera GT)
Drift Race (Less then 200HP, Less then 300HP, Less then 400HP, Less then 500HP, Less then 600HP)
Spec Race (The Sprinter Trueno in spec racing)
Point to Point (Less then 200HP, Less then 300HP, Less then 400HP, Less then 500HP, Less then 600HP)


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[Swift]

Ok, so it's got umpteen hundred "leagues" big deal. I'm not ragging on the game, just this particular aspect. I mean it would take yoiu a year to do all that even once....sheesh.

 

[kinigitt]

Ok, so it's got umpteen hundred "leagues" big deal. I'm not ragging on the game, just this particular aspect. I mean it would take yoiu a year to do all that even once....sheesh.

?

Isn't that a good thing? GT4 has a billion quadrilllion different races, and I see that as a good thing, not a fault. It'll keep people playing the game (if they don't have xbox live...suckers) while the inevitable sequel takes 3+ years to make.

 

[k2racer]

2000 on forza

 

[kinigitt]

2000 on forza

That was random.... What are you talking about?

 

[k2racer]

just the post count, like every thousand is considered a milestone of some kind

so not that random

 

[kinigitt]

just the post count, like every thousand is considered a milestone of some kind

so not that random

I see.

 

[sloth_foot]

I got a demo of Forza on the latest Official Xbox Mag (UK). And although it is quite cool, it is no where near as perfected as GT4. GT reigns once again. LONG LIVE GT!!!!

 

[Swift]

?

Isn't that a good thing? GT4 has a billion quadrilllion different races, and I see that as a good thing, not a fault. It'll keep people playing the game (if they don't have xbox live...suckers) while the inevitable sequel takes 3+ years to make.

Honestly, I don't see that as being a big plus or a minus. I guess it's cool for replay value. And it is needed to have a good aomount of leagues. But in GT3, I spent most of my time in free mode. So I guess that's why I'm not worried about how many leages GT4 or Forza has.

 

[McLaren]

I got a demo of Forza on the latest Official Xbox Mag (UK). And although it is quite cool, it is no where near as perfected as GT4. GT reigns once again. LONG LIVE GT!!!!

*cough*fanboy*cough*

Wait till you've played the full game.

 

[Gek54]

Ok, so it's got umpteen hundred "leagues" big deal. I'm not ragging on the game, just this particular aspect. I mean it would take yoiu a year to do all that even once....sheesh.

LOL this is about as weak of a complaint as the fact that GT4 has way too many cars and that it would take forever to drive and tune everyone of them. What Forza gives you is lots of choices and how can you complain about that unless you are some kind of communist.

 

[code_kev]

LOL so true. I for one love having LOADS AND LOADS to do.

GT reigns once again. LONG LIVE GT!!!!

That. Is. Sad.

 

[Gek54]

I got a demo of Forza on the latest Official Xbox Mag (UK). And although it is quite cool, it is no where near as perfected as GT4. GT reigns once again. LONG LIVE GT!!!!

Care to share what you think was wrong with the Forza demo?

 

[kinigitt]

Care to share what you think was wrong with the Forza demo?

he didn't say there was anything wrong with it, he just said GT4 is the uberz, king, it roxxorz, etc...Not that anyone is arguing the point.