FRL~ToCA12 - Ninners, Furinkazen, FAS, Volvo, Champions!Finished

[DK]

Nurb GP/D has always been a bogey track for me. Pre-Q will be tricky.

 

[Furinkazen]

Nurb GP/D has always been a bogey track for me. Pre-Q will be tricky.

You are joint 11th.

 

[Spurgy 777]

The Volvo isn't OP, there's just OP drivers driving them. I mean Furi has exactly the same car, and he's only been running mid field, in an OP car, Furi should be consistently challenging for 3rd, like he did when I last raced.

 

[LancerEvo7]

We have best set up and drivers. A Hyundai driver agrees with me as well, and I know other people do as well.

Don't put words in my mouth. I did say that at Spa, the difference between the Volvo and Hyundai was about what it should be considering who's driving each of them. However, that's the first time this season that's happened, tbh.

And it's a bit insulting that you act like none of us know how to set up a car.

 

[Furinkazen]

The Volvo isn't OP, there's just OP drivers driving them. I mean Furi has exactly the same car, and he's only been running mid field, in an OP car, Furi should be consistently challenging for 3rd, like he did when I last raced.

Also back then we didn't have as many competitive drivers imo.

 

[Akmuq]

Well I made @gokartman78 2 seconds a lap quicker with a simple spring tweak last night... also I've gone through a lot of set ups with this thing.

Well that definitely confirms it, you must have the best setup, I was wrong to doubt your thorough testing process. Apologies for that.

 

[Furinkazen]

Don't put words in my mouth. I did say that at Spa, the difference between the Volvo and Hyundai was about what it should be considering who's driving each of them. However, that's the first time this season that's happened, tbh.

And it's a bit insulting that you act like none of us know how to set up a car.

Not referring specifically to you on the set up thing, came out a bit sharper than I anticipated that. Still feel there is some sour grapes sometimes.

 

[Andil]

For what it's worth, I tested the Renault with some basic setup in a test session early last week and ran a 27.5 within 3 laps - I think that would have been on one of the front two rows last night.

I would say most would agree the Renault is the worst car (for example), but with some setup it runs perfectly fine.

 

[rolo912011]

It happens seemingly every season though, which kind of ingrains in people's minds that it's more than just the best drivers or set ups in one season.

 

[raceorama123432]

Why I think success ballast is needed.

 

[Andil]

Why I think success ballast is needed.

Don't disagree with this. Would make the races a bit more interesting and less predictable.

 

[rolo912011]

Don't disagree with this. Would make the races a bit more interesting and less predictable.

Really really difficult to do in a multi-car series. Adding weight can improve performance in some cars.

 

[Furinkazen]

Really really difficult to do in a multi-car series. Adding weight can improve performance in some cars.

This

 

[raceorama123432]

Yeah, which sucks. Power reductions?

 

[Furinkazen]

Yeah, which sucks. Power reductions?

Hi @FlyingFox

 

[Andil]

Really really difficult to do in a multi-car series. Adding weight can improve performance in some cars.

Really though? Can't say I've ever noticed that. Shifting ballast can help with the balance of a car but it will still ultimately be heavier, take longer to accelerate and longer to slow down.

 

[raceorama123432]

Ballast boxes It must be positioned in the middle. If they're faster afterwards then it's obvi they're cheating?

 

[Furinkazen]

Ballast boxes It must be positioned in the middle. If they're faster afterwards then it's obvi they're cheating?

No way of checking unfortunately.

 

[rolo912011]

Really though? Can't say I've ever noticed that. Shifting ballast can help with the balance of a car but it will still ultimately be heavier, take longer to accelerate and longer to slow down.

I think sometimes, whether it's just game physics or not, the transfer of weight to the back of an FF car for example improves speed beyond what it loses by being heavier. It's weird. It's what I found in testing anyway.

 

[V8-Johnboy]

Just remember in 11 months time or so Furi will be gone try and be nice.

 

[Spurgy 777]

I hate success ballast, just makes the racing fake and in some ways a little pointless. If I'm racing someone, I don't want to beat them because they're at a disadvantage.

 

[paulmac2k9]

I hate success ballast, just makes the racing fake and in some ways a little pointless. If I'm racing someone, I don't want to beat them because they're at a disadvantage.

I felt like this back in WSGTC when Aderrrm and Mole had 200kgs at points in the season and still beat me. (I beat Aderrrm at Daytona due to him having 200kgs. He couldn't even pass my MR-S Gt300 in GT5s draft .)

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

@GTracer98 @hsv the Alfa has a 5hp boost.

How much power now?

And time attack went well

Night race for toca?

 

[True-blue-8]

sorry just looking and with success ballast, don't rule out power reduction furi, it worked very well in GTTCC, so something to look at

(Sinks back into the shadows)

 

[Spurgy 777]

sorry just looking and with success ballast, don't rule out power reduction furi, it worked very well in GTTCC, so something to look at

(Sinks back into the shadows)

Go away, all success penalties are terrible ideas

 

[V8-Johnboy]

Go away, all success penalties are terrible ideas

+1

 

[Ninners]

Actually he wouldn't have had a chance

I reckon he wouldn't have been far off. Discounting Mole of course.

 

[True-blue-8]

Go away, all success penalties are terrible ideas

only the fast drivers like you don't like them

I understand in real life, i don't like it, it's really unfair. You need to beat a driver with talent. but I don't mind in game, keeps everyone happy

 

[raceorama123432]

It should be my 150th FRL start this weekend

 

[Furinkazen]

It should be my 100th FRL start this weekend

Which race??