Fuji 2005 is the worst EVER!!!

[JohnBM01]

Basically, this track is more like an F1-spec track for the JGTC. Sure, the JGTC has Suzuka, but this is like the whacking that was done to Hockenheim. That high-speed blast through the forest was a thing of beauty. I mean, who didn't enjoy 170 to 200 mph or maybe 300 kph down Hockenheim? Now, its (I hate to say this) a subpar high-speed course.

With Fuji 2005, I did my race in B-Spec Mode for the JGTC race series. I think it's too confusing. It's more like racing a concept track. Everything just looked completely conceptual. Personally, I liked the sweeping nature of the older Fuji tracks. Maybe I'm just speaking from someone who kind of liked the older style track.

Actually, my least favorite track in Gran Turismo 4 is Opera Paris. The track is pretty technical, but also pretty slow. If you're going to balance technical and speed, you can't do it with a track in which you'll have to use your brakes 70% of the time. Close to France, there already is Monaco with the Monte Carlo event. There is the race in Pau, France run by Formula 3 and French GT (or is there a such series?). I love the city of Paris, but I think a better track could have been made. Maybe include the Cathedral of Notre Dame (this is France's Notre Dame here, not the Fighting Irish's Notre Dame (South Bend, IN, USA)). I think a better configuration could have been used.

 

[recostal]

well, Ralf Schumacher said it really looked great when he drove.

I dont like this track personally because I cant see where I'm going.
I think it is difficult to drive unless you have both 3 TVs and 3 PS2s. http://www.itmedia.co.jp/games/articles/0502/02/news019.html#l_wk_GT4001.jpg

 

[Stargazer]

Actually, my least favorite track in Gran Turismo 4 is Opera Paris. The track is pretty technical, but also pretty slow.

I felt that way too in the begining. I tried the F1 the first time I raced it. That was a disaster. But now I've had to race the track so many times (in much slower cars) that I kind of enjoy it. When I used the BMW M3 GTR Race Car on it, I was pleasantly surprised and my views changed. The brakes on that car are amazing.

Opera Reverse is worse because it's even slower but my views about it are gradually changing, too.

 

[ash6660]

No doubt, the best track in my opinion is the one and only Nurburgring, closely followed by Circuit le Sarthe II (Le Mans with the really fast straight). The best new track has to be El Capitan. That track is a work of genius!

Worst track?--------Either Chamonix or Ice Arena.... they are both too tight, slow, twisty and ****e rally courses

 

[antisport.net]

The worst tracks in GT4 honors goes to Hong Kong, New York, And both Paris Tracks. 👎

Yes, they are bad! so boring and cookie cutter nothening exciting (should include traffic!)

 

[den brakke]

I just can't figure out the lines of the track for some reason and i usually learn them fast but not fuji 2005. i just dont know whats up with it i just dont like it

Me too, i can't realy see the diffrence between the road and the asfalt next to the road.

 

[Dave A]

I have no trouble seeing the lines on that track, tbh I don't think it's a bad track at all I just think you might need to learn it a bit more.

 

[LordDeimos]

I fully expect to see NASCAR stock cars in GT5 with a super speed way oval like Daytona along with Indy oval and maybe infield, especially with more classic cars.

As much as I love NASCAR, I hope this doesn't happen. NASCAR is just too different from GT-style racing to be integrated well. The AI would have to be quite a bit different for a normal large oval race, and completely different again for a restrictor-plate race like Daytona, and there would need to be more than a handful of opponents to make it interesting. People often say NASCAR is boring because driving hundreds of laps at an oval track by yourself IS boring. It's the close competition with over 40 opponents on a relatively small track that makes NASCAR exciting. If Polyphony didn't get it exactly right, it would end up being like all those damn test track races in GT3.

Now if Polyphony were to make a dedicated NASCAR sim, that might be a different story. Unfortunatly, that can't happen anytime in the forseeable future, thanks to NASCAR's damn exclusivity contract with EA. At this point, the only way to really experience a good NASCAR sim is to pick up a copy of Papyrus's NASCAR Racing 2003 Season for the PC, and unfortunatly, that will probably be the last NASCAR sim made for a long time. EA's NASCAR games can be fun sometimes, but they're purely arcade.

 

[Rockhound18]

The only reason why I find Fuiji 2005 so difficult is because the corners are extremely blind because of the lack of runoff grass and the fact that the whole second half is running slightly uphill so you cant see the surface 200 ft ahead of you. However, after a few laps you learn where to put your marks, and as long as you hit them, its really not that hard.

However, I get really sick of staring at fresh blacktop after as little as 5 laps. Longer races on this track are aesthetically unbearable

 

[98cobra]

I have no trouble seeing the lines on that track, tbh I don't think it's a bad track at all I just think you might need to learn it a bit more.

Yeah, it was kind of hard at first, but you'll get it.

 

[eSPy]

The worst tracks in GT4 honors goes to Hong Kong, New York, And both Paris Tracks. 👎

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!

thats so true! i hate those tracks so much! all those 90 sharp ass turns piss me off.

 

[mbavaria30s]

funny, those are my favorites. driving straight is boring.

 

[kizyak]

funny, those are my favorites. driving straight is boring.

Exactly!!!

I love every track in GT4, except those tiny lilttle tracks that I don't even know the names of because I never raced them if I didn't have to.

Us people who are better at racing in the game like more complicated tracks, which require more skill to drive on the line. Easy tracks get boring at times.

My favorite are in this order: Grand Valley, Suzuka, Nurburgring, The Fujis, and Apricot Hill.

 

[JohnBM01]

Actually, I think Hong Kong lacks real rhythm. All the corners are pretty low to mid speed. I think if you have a car tuned for excellent acceleration out of turns with precise handling, you can tame Hong Kong.

How good is New York? Apparently, New York is going to be featured in Forza, while it's already featured in GT4. To me, New York City (call me crazy, but) kind of sets you up for Nurburgring Nordschleife. How so? At one point, you're speedfreaking in Green Hell, then all of a sudden, you see these bends and kinks come out of the blue, and if you don't adjust your speed, off the track or into the wall or both will happen. Right now, I'm playing New York, but in B-Spec mode. All the kinks and speedy areas remind me of Nurburgring Nords.

But if I have to give a good grade for a GT4 race track, my favorite is El Capitan. El Capitan flows very smoothly, and if you get a certain rhythm, you'll be able to clock in some nice lap times. The more you're able to turn left and right on the fly, the more you'll enjoy top speeds around this... oh yeah, El Capitan is a very lovely place.

I have a note for those finding street courses tough. Usually, such courses are tough because you don't really have the luxury of flying off the track if you misjudge a turn. The most you'll have is runoff road, and of course, those barriers. These courses basically test your ability to find the best racing line and try to minimalize mistakes. That's the way I learned about street courses. I like them because I'm a city guy, and it's pretty fun. I still like a good road race, of course. If you're going to be GT King/Queen, you'll have to master road courses, street courses, and rally.

 

[flamingwonky]

I have a note for those finding street courses tough. Usually, such courses are tough because you don't really have the luxury of flying off the track if you misjudge a turn. The most you'll have is runoff road, and of course, those barriers. These courses basically test your ability to find the best racing line and try to minimalize mistakes. That's the way I learned about street courses. I like them because I'm a city guy, and it's pretty fun. I still like a good road race, of course. If you're going to be GT King/Queen, you'll have to master road courses, street courses, and rally.

Hmm... it may seem that on curcuit tracks one doesn't have the luxury of being stopped by a wall, instead. Crashing into walls on city tracks is annoying, but no-where near as bad as hopelessly spinning out by misjudginng your line on the last lap of a tough 6-lap race...

If you're over 12 and have a decent attention span (this isn't aimed at you, John), there's no reason to flame city tracks. They may seem slow, and with many 90-degree corners, but in that lies their beauty. Teaches you to use those damn brakes, at least. If you don't like them, shame, but others do.

On Hong Kong, I agree that the track's rhythm is a little peculiar and oftentimes a strait feels too short, but that's all fine for me. One can learn to play on any track, because any old stretch of road becomes a new challenge, and HK is no exception. I also have a bit of trouble eyeing the racing line, especially in the first few corners (on the bridge/dam/thing).

On Fuji, I don't care for it much, like Suzuka and Tsukuba. There's something about these tracks that just disinterests me. Oldies like Apricot Hill and even the remodeled (and not for the better, imo) Grand Valley are more fun, although I've certainly been there, done that.

 

[mbavaria30s]

also, racing in reverse in something like the chrysler 300c hemi is a lot more fun on a slow city course than a long fast course.

 

[Maturin]

I've changed my mind about Fuji 2005 a bit, it's no longer the worst, after driving around Hong Kong and Motegi.

There's an ***8 HOUR*** endurance race on Motegi. Who on earth wants to do that?!

 

[_kamikazefly_]

i always HATED seattle.....(loved the jumps though)

 

[Sprite]

well im going to get flamed to infinity and back but i actually dont hink this is the worst track in GT4.......






Thats is down to the Nurb or sarth (let the flaming begin)

 

[cjrciadt]

well im going to get flamed to infinity and back but i actually dont hink this is the worst track in GT4.......






Thats is down to the Nurb or sarth (let the flaming begin)

Care to explain why????

 

[nismoGTR]

Fuji 2005 SUCKS. at least on other tracks you can see where to brake, but the pavement is so black you can't see any of the rubber marks. The track is so wide it's hard to stay on most of the time. Yeah i know it sounds weird but its true.
All the other Fujis are awesome but 2005 SUCKS

 

[Giancarlo]

I really don't think it's so bad. It's a little bare, but not so bad. I really don't see what everyone hates about it. But, i do have an idea: it's because of the large areas of concrete around the track. You feel strange slowing down in such a large area.

 

[nismoGTR]

I've changed my mind about Fuji 2005 a bit, it's no longer the worst, after driving around Hong Kong and Motegi.

There's an ***8 HOUR*** endurance race on Motegi. Who on earth wants to do that?!

Go to B-spec race monitor and change the view speed to x3 then it will only be about 3 hours (2 and 40 mins) if you're that P.O.ed about it

 

[Sprite]

Care to explain why????

to be honest it wasnt a big draw for me when the game was in production knowing that i could race around them, didnt make me want GT4 more than i already did, they are IMO too long and boring, and im just not that much of a fan of long tracks, like Grandvalley speedway ive never like this one when i first drove it, but ive come to like it more. there are quite a few tracks that im not keen on in GT4 and they all seem to come from the real life tracks that have made it into GT4.

Although im pleased to see the return of old tracks from previous games, and its a shame some more didnt make it, and had to be ignored for the The Nurb, and sarth.

Just my opinion and im sure that the track i dont like now will grow on me, as ive driven the 1000 mile race around the Nurb in a Jag e-type and loved every minute of it. even put a smile on my face.

 

[DumpValve]

I hate Hong Kong and both Paris variants - mainly because I do indeed suck at them.

They're very unforgiving tracks, whereas on most tracks a mistake will mean a slight drop in lap time, an error on these means hitting a wall and getting overtaken by every other car on the track .

 

[tha_con]

I agree with you, Fuji 2005 is absolute trash. I feel sorry for the poor Japanese dudes that have to drive on this, and especially sorry for the first guy that is gonna die because he has no idea where the hell he is going. My favorite part is watching the AI make picture perfect, faultless laps, one after the other.

I know there's already tons written, but I had to comment on this guy.

Does he really think that Professional Drivers go onto a track without first having studied it and learning the turns? ... come on now buddy.

Just learn the track, everyone else does.

 

[nun0]

love 90's fuji
hate fuji '05

 

[MadduckUK]

love 90's fuji
hate fuji '05

Same here. Fuji90's and Tsukuba are my testing tracks now.

 

[olympia21_ca]

B-Spec was MADE for Opera! Terrible track, even Rome was better.

Hahahaha, yeah, B-Speced a lot of Opera races....

 

[_kamikazefly_]

HAHAHAH I think everyone forgot about this...how about test course, now it dosnt get any more boring then this