G25 Cockpits Lets See them!!

[Umuliuz]

Very nice!

Pretty much exactly the setup I´m for myself in the next month or two. I need something minimalistic and yet comfortalble/functionable/affordable...and I figure this is it!

 

[justicetv]

I am also part way through building my cockpit, I am just waiting for the g25 wheel and tillet seat before I can finish.

I have mounted the shifter on the same panel as the steering wheel. I like the shifter being as close to the steering wheel as possible, so that less time is wasted when changing gear.

 

[justicetv]

there are some nice pictures! Interestingly i don't think many people have commented on the driving position choosen. I have choosen a low, full racing driving position. It seems others have gone for a more upright position..

 

[jswilli1]

I posted in the GT5P setup thread but since there is a dedicated G25 setup thread I will put a few here. The chair is a Berkline gaming chair I bought at Costco a few years ago. It was destined for the curb after the kids busted the springs out of the bottom jumping on it. After a few 2X4's in the bottom it is good as new. The Arm is an Ergotron Industrial arm used for mounting PC monitors from the wall. It works well mounting my G25 to the chair and it tilts! It can also be pulled/pushed for more adjustment and getting in/out of the chair. I am still working on "dressing" up where I mounted the shifter since I had to cut down into the arm rest. Like the previous poster had shown above, I removed the clamps and mounts from the shifter and used 6mm screws to fasten it down. It is a very comfortable chair and ergonomic as well, I can drive for hours and not get fatigued.

 

[bobzombie]

heres my new pod i made over the the weekend ,all adjustable
the seat even tilts so you can be seated straight like in a van or lying down like in a F1 car

the stearing changes depth and lenght

i didnt get the time too cut the MDF board that goes on the ''floor'' so i have a book till i get too it lol

 

[thugbear2005]

I posted in the GT5P setup thread but since there is a dedicated G25 setup thread I will put a few here. The chair is a Berkline gaming chair I bought at Costco a few years ago. It was destined for the curb after the kids busted the springs out of the bottom jumping on it. After a few 2X4's in the bottom it is good as new. The Arm is an Ergotron Industrial arm used for mounting PC monitors from the wall. It works well mounting my G25 to the chair and it tilts! It can also be pulled/pushed for more adjustment and getting in/out of the chair. I am still working on "dressing" up where I mounted the shifter since I had to cut down into the arm rest. Like the previous poster had shown above, I removed the clamps and mounts from the shifter and used 6mm screws to fasten it down. It is a very comfortable chair and ergonomic as well, I can drive for hours and not get fatigued.

Where did you get the piece that you mounted the wheel on?

 

[jonboy1066]

Nice choice of seat there:

 

[bobzombie]

i just took pics of the part thats thats under the seat
lets me move forward and back and tiltthe whole seat

 

[kikie]

It is a very comfortable chair and ergonomic as well, I can drive for hours and not get fatigued.

That is exactly what I thought when I saw these photos. It looks great!

 

[speedyK]

I posted my cockpit in another thread quite a while ago, but the site I was using to host the pics closed, so they disappeared. Here's some pics again – along with some interesting new facts about how a cockpit can be useful!

Warning! If you thought YOU were a petrolhead, that may just be put into perspective. Some of us are at the incurable stage!

The superb (certainly compared to my previous DF and DFP plastic ones which all broke), modular G25 pedals were just begging to be taken apart and mounted inverted... so I did

And modded them to be exact copies of those in my fun car:

I also wanted the gearchange to be located exactly as in my car. This required cutting the G25 unit in two:

No going back now!

I also extended the gear lever to the correct length.

I wanted to use the same wheel as my real car, so had to make an adaptor and extend the paddles:

And relocate the buttons

With all the crucial parts modded to match the real car, my 1:1 copy of the real cockpit really worked out well. All the dimensions are exactly like the real car – the feel sitting in the cockpit is identical. The only difference is that getting in the sim cockpit is easier. The reason is that the cockpit floor of the real car is 12 cm from the ground – for the sim, I wanted to fit a subwoofer directly beneath the seat - and this needed just over 15 cm clearance.

Not a Buttshaker, but I can feel the kerbs now.

I should really raise the floor next to the sim 3.5 cm with boarding to get the real feel. But then I'd also need to add the roll cage that makes it a little harder to get in the real one – and the roof. Some people have likened getting into the real car to trying to climb into a pillar box

Anyway, it really worked out well. The hardest part was getting the pedals exactly positioned. I really should get round to doing some of the mods to improve the feel of the shifter, but so far I've been happy enough not to bother.

Some shots to show the details of the sim cockpit:

Overview with my first cockpit in the corner – tempted to upgrade this – waiting to see what Logitech offer for GT5's release, otherwise may try Fanatec...

For comparison, pedals of my real fun car

And the real cockpit

Overview: Lotus Exige Cup with 270 bhp supercharger

But every trackday in the Exige costs more than a PS3. In fact, for the cost of a handful of trackdays, I can throw in a 40" full HD monitor too – and crashing the sim costs nothing and doesn't hurt!

My previous fun car ended like this on a Swiss mountain pass:

Minutes before

After recovery (written off)

I used my first cockpit with GT4 to practice for track days. I'm sure it helped me. Here is a short clip from my Speedster's very last track day at Hockenheim, taking no prisoners!:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-980304974860446087&ei=bJliSdb6OZqu2gLVqt3TBQ&q=speedyK

My elder daughter is now learning to drive – I insisted that she use the G25 cockpit first to learn about gearchanging (as she seemed to think it was very easy from just watching). She'd only played in auto mode previously. In GT5 Prologue, I gave her a Mini Cooper S to try. It was an eye-opener for her, but she still struggled to master the clutch on our Peugeot 106 GTI _ seen here on its 106 Rallye steel rims and winter tyres for a "Snow and Ice" event (which I also practised for on GT4 and was rewarded with 2nd place in the fwd category):

After she'd tried the106, I let my daughter try my my more sensible than the Exige road fun car, a Smart Brabus Xclusive Roadster-Coupé, in auto mode:

She asked why all cars aren't so easy to drive. As she was clearly getting into it (petrol in the blood ) I let her try our biggest vehicle – this was all on very quiet back roads I hasten to add. Dodge Durango 4.7 V8

Which do you think she liked most?



The Dodge! She thinks it would be cool to take a whole load of mates in (7-seater).

She agreed that trying the G25 shifter first was a good idea and has now asked me if her boyfriend can also try my G25 cockpit before going out to try driving for the first time 👍 This may be an unexpected extra argument for people needing to convince their wife why a sim cockpit is a good idea!

Her younger sister has already got her eyes on my Exige and loves driving the tuned Elise 111R in GT5 P...

Neither of them is that interested in our other cars, but my wife likes them, though in winter they are tucked away:

They are

Restored MGC roadster, 3 litre straight six

Lancia Beta Spider ("Zagato" in North America)

and Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo 2+2 with 340 bhp which I only tracked once –

even with racing brake pads it got very hot but managed to hold onto a friend's 420 bhp 911 Turbo (camera is a bit low – mounted on a tied-down tripod - no harness bar):
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-545235663700196479&q=source%3A007237021980558059214&hl=en

I told you I was a bad case – but I'm loving it and can't wait for GT5 – and if the Nissan GT-R is as good as the one in GT5 P, I am already looking forward to getting a nice used one for a reasonable price – and this will mean a new sim cockpit will be required...

Loving the GT-R with all aids off – so adjustable – eats Ferraris!:

(The GT-R's V6 sounds very much like my ZX if you listen to both clips).

 

[CAMikaze]

Gauges were bought here: [URL="http://www.betainnovations.com/]http://www.betainnovations.com/[/URL]

Thought I'd give you and update on the website. I was there the other day and found out that the store associated with the website closed up shop recently and we're offering only the pdf document files of some of the items they sold until the term on their domain name expires later this year.

Offhand, does anyone here know of other websites that sell the same kinds of items that Beta Innovations did?

 

[Drillah]

Nice work on the cockpit there speedyK. Thanks for sharing all the realworld stuff there too, it's nice to be all grown up and have disposable income for such a wonderful hobby. (stay in school and work hard kids!!)-

Here is a pic of my PC game room. (The PS3 is out in the living room with the big screen and I push the cockpit out there if I want to play on the console). A (semi) portable cockpit is a nice option to have. Also, by having the portable 'pit I can just push the monitor back and pull up a chair and I have my PC back for playing other games, video editing and maybe getting some work done.

 

[Drillah]

Offhand, does anyone here know of other websites that sell the same kinds of items that Beta Innovations did?

Here's a link I found in my favorites for a small controller I found when i was going to make a button box.
http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/index.html
Peek around in this forum here: http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=186 and you're sure to find lots of links to hardware being sold. 👍

edit...got a bug and went looking for more cool stuff. found this:
http://www.sim-tools.de/
http://mj-multimedia.net/blog/?p=3
http://kurenai.main.jp/gtinfo/inf8/inf8.cgi

 

[jswilli1]

Where did you get the piece that you mounted the wheel on?

We had it in the scrap bin at work, So I took it and attached it to the chair. I think you can go to Ebay and find them also. Its an Ergotron arm but I am not sure of the model.

 

[Legendary]

I posted my cockpit in another thread quite a while ago, but the site I was using to host the pics closed, so they disappeared. Here's some pics again – along with some interesting new facts about how a cockpit can be useful!

Warning! If you thought YOU were a petrolhead, that may just be put into perspective. Some of us are at the incurable stage!

The superb (certainly compared to my previous DF and DFP plastic ones which all broke), modular G25 pedals were just begging to be taken apart and mounted inverted... so I did

And modded them to be exact copies of those in my fun car:

I also wanted the gearchange to be located exactly as in my car. This required cutting the G25 unit in two:

No going back now!

I also extended the gear lever to the correct length.

I wanted to use the same wheel as my real car, so had to make an adaptor and extend the paddles:

And relocate the buttons

With all the crucial parts modded to match the real car, my 1:1 copy of the real cockpit really worked out well. All the dimensions are exactly like the real car – the feel sitting in the cockpit is identical. The only difference is that getting in the sim cockpit is easier. The reason is that the cockpit floor of the real car is 12 cm from the ground – for the sim, I wanted to fit a subwoofer directly beneath the seat - and this needed just over 15 cm clearance.

Not a Buttshaker, but I can feel the kerbs now.

I should really raise the floor next to the sim 3.5 cm with boarding to get the real feel. But then I'd also need to add the roll cage that makes it a little harder to get in the real one – and the roof. Some people have likened getting into the real car to trying to climb into a pillar box

Anyway, it really worked out well. The hardest part was getting the pedals exactly positioned. I really should get round to doing some of the mods to improve the feel of the shifter, but so far I've been happy enough not to bother.

Some shots to show the details of the sim cockpit:

Overview with my first cockpit in the corner – tempted to upgrade this – waiting to see what Logitech offer for GT5's release, otherwise may try Fanatec...

For comparison, pedals of my real fun car

And the real cockpit

Overview: Lotus Exige Cup with 270 bhp supercharger

But every trackday in the Exige costs more than a PS3. In fact, for the cost of a handful of trackdays, I can throw in a 40" full HD monitor too – and crashing the sim costs nothing and doesn't hurt!

My previous fun car ended like this on a Swiss mountain pass:

Minutes before

After recovery (written off)

I used my first cockpit with GT4 to practice for track days. I'm sure it helped me. Here is a short clip from my Speedster's very last track day at Hockenheim, taking no prisoners!:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-980304974860446087&ei=bJliSdb6OZqu2gLVqt3TBQ&q=speedyK

My elder daughter is now learning to drive – I insisted that she use the G25 cockpit first to learn about gearchanging (as she seemed to think it was very easy from just watching). She'd only played in auto mode previously. In GT5 Prologue, I gave her a Mini Cooper S to try. It was an eye-opener for her, but she still struggled to master the clutch on our Peugeot 106 GTI _ seen here on its 106 Rallye steel rims and winter tyres for a "Snow and Ice" event (which I also practised for on GT4 and was rewarded with 2nd place in the fwd category):

After she'd tried the106, I let my daughter try my my more sensible than the Exige road fun car, a Smart Brabus Xclusive Roadster-Coupé, in auto mode:

She asked why all cars aren't so easy to drive. As she was clearly getting into it (petrol in the blood ) I let her try our biggest vehicle – this was all on very quiet back roads I hasten to add. Dodge Durango 4.7 V8

Which do you think she liked most?



The Dodge! She thinks it would be cool to take a whole load of mates in (7-seater).

She agreed that trying the G25 shifter first was a good idea and has now asked me if her boyfriend can also try my G25 cockpit before going out to try driving for the first time 👍 This may be an unexpected extra argument for people needing to convince their wife why a sim cockpit is a good idea!

Her younger sister has already got her eyes on my Exige and loves driving the tuned Elise 111R in GT5 P...

Neither of them is that interested in our other cars, but my wife likes them, though in winter they are tucked away:

They are

Restored MGC roadster, 3 litre straight six

Lancia Beta Spider ("Zagato" in North America)

and Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo 2+2 with 340 bhp which I only tracked once –

even with racing brake pads it got very hot but managed to hold onto a friend's 420 bhp 911 Turbo (camera is a bit low – mounted on a tied-down tripod - no harness bar):
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-545235663700196479&q=source%3A007237021980558059214&hl=en

I told you I was a bad case – but I'm loving it and can't wait for GT5 – and if the Nissan GT-R is as good as the one in GT5 P, I am already looking forward to getting a nice used one for a reasonable price – and this will mean a new sim cockpit will be required...

Loving the GT-R with all aids off – so adjustable – eats Ferraris!:

(The GT-R's V6 sounds very much like my ZX if you listen to both clips).

Just how rich are you? You own some awesome cars and that cockpit is awesome.

 

[speedyK]

Just how rich are you? You own some awesome cars and that cockpit is awesome.

On paper, I'm not rich. Quite the opposite in fact!

You just have to work hard to get into a position to earn enough that the bank will trust you to lend you more! 👍

You only live once, so you have to combine planning your career with doing what is important to you now.

I worked very hard for years and always sacrificed a lot – even as a teenager – to enjoy owning an interesting car. Finished being a student for the last time at the age of 35 when I completed my 4th university qualification – a doctorate.



My first car was Mini at 17.

Bought it cheap, improved it myself with every last penny I had, but I could not afford the insurance premium which turned out to be about 6 times the car's purchase price So I sold it for 3 times what I'd paid for it. I then waited two years and did some very hard manual work in my university holidays to finance my first car that I actually owned and drove, a beat-up Triumph TR4A IRS

Amazingly, I survived this partnership and then moved on to my MGC, which I still own.

The other cars I've owned are:

My very first new car, a Fiat X1/9 1500 5-speed (Told my bank manager I neeed a new, reliable car. When he asked what, I re-assured him that it was "just a little Fiat" – he didn't ask more )

Talbot-Matra Murena 2.2 (mid-engined, 3 (abreast) seater

And a succession of four Range Rovers – I traded in the last, a 4.6 HSE, for the new Durango – a very good decision. The RRs all dropped oil and were generally unreliable. The Dodge just keeps going, has coped with everything I've asked from it and is far more fun to drive!

I also have large collections of models of the cars' I've owned and others that I find appealing.

Part of my Opel Speedster model collection

RR, X1/9 + various

I don't think there is any point in denying that I am a total petrolhead!

Roll on GT5 with a nice selection of cars 👍👍👍

 

[Stevisiov]

That's a very impressive collection speedyk

For some inane reason, I decided to give this its own thread, might as well post it here.

I've had this for years initially for an old driving force wheel, I got it upgraded to sport a G25 and shifter, I never got round to posting it for some reason, thought its about time .

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I don't own both ps3's and both TV's the ones on the right are my brothers which I am currently borrowing, non the less the setup works well but I need some sort of surround sound with a sub under the seat perhaps

if anyone wants proof shots that can be arranged.

I am hoping to get round to mounting the pedals upside down like they should be, but for now that works just fine.

How easy was it to invert the pedals speedyk?

 

[speedyK]

Inverting the pedals is easy. If you search, you'll see that each pedal has a metal base with two M6 threads so that you can bolt it firmly in which ever position you choose (see my pics above).

THe hardest part is getting the heights, depths and angles of all the pedals correct – especially if you are trying to copy a real car's set-up.

Here's a pic of mine when I was trying out the positions – note that there are a few holes from various attempts! It just needs patience!

 

[Biggles]

Could someone explain to me how you post Jpeg attachments on these forums? Thank you!

 

[opelgt1969]

A very easy way to invert the pedals for the G25 is to take the pedals apart and just swap the gas/clutch pedals after the swap you will have more room betweem the brake and clutch pedal. Then invert the base, only thing you will have to change is the lenght of the cord inside of the base to give room to move the gas pedal to the other side. See picture in my avatar.

 

[Legendary]

I would see your avatar but you need to upload it to a photo album so we can actually see the actual size that it was...

 

[opelgt1969]

Here's a better picture if you click on it I have other pictures on imageshack I think the pictures are on page 3 I don't have a lot of pictures in imageshack so you don't have to worry about finding them.

I just uploaded some pictures to my profile page to make them easier to find.

 

[speedyK]

only thing you will have to change is the lenght of the cord inside of the base to give room to move the gas pedal to the other side.

I didn't have to alter the wires at all – they were just long enough to re-arrange how I wanted them.

This pic shows them still in the standard order – from left to right.Note to initials on the bases, "C", "B" and "A" – clutch, brake and accelerator – this was already written on when I opened it – presumably an aid to correct assembly at the factory.

 

[opelgt1969]

By saying altering the wires all I had to do was to allow about 3" of wire to go futher into the base I didn't cut/splice wires or anything I did wrap some tape around them where they go into the base to keep them from getting pinched.

 

[Legendary]

Here's a better picture if you click on it I have other pictures on imageshack I think the pictures are on page 3 I don't have a lot of pictures in imageshack so you don't have to worry about finding them.

I just uploaded some pictures to my profile page to make them easier to find.

AHHHHH, I see what you have done now, turned the pedals upside down with the base on the correct angle to have the pedals face down like that. You also, went inside the pedals and swapped the Accelerator wire with the clutch wire and tada, inverted pedals. You can also swap the Acell pedal and Clutch pedal around to have it as it was before. When I get employed hopefully in 7 or so months this will be on the top of my list. Aswell as a custom made cockpit.

 

[opelgt1969]

Your close to what I did. What I did was to change the gas and clutch "PODS" not the wires as I wasn't sure about the difference in the travel of each one, then I turned the footplates around.

 

[WeAreN1nja]

Out with the old, in with the new. I had put off buying a Playseat Evolution forever, but Amazon had them on sale for $200 shipped. I sold my Playseat Classic for $160 on Ebay, ponied up an additional $40 and made the switch...

 

[s15specr]

Hello, here is my simple G25 setup.

OMG by far the best setup ever made, i love the way it's so neat and tidy.

 

[cansoykal]

this is my cocpit setup for LFS and GT5 Prologue

 

[TeamDolmio]

Hiya guys! i'm new to this forum.

Heres my humble setup. I have been relegated to the cellar by my wife. Great down there though...what do you think?

glad to be into PS3 and GT. Was a hardened Forza fan, lol