Gen 5 Dodge Viper

[Slash]

I wish the road car had beefy sidewalls like that. I'm so over low profile tires.

I agree. I have never like low profile tires.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

GT3-R Revel Video

 

[psntomaz]

So the standard car is actually better around a track?

I thought the GTS had an adjustable suspension that could actually be set stiffer than the standard one?

SRT= two mode (Full On, Full Off) with traction control and brake
assist systems

GTS= Electronic stability control (ESC) — four mode (Full On, Sport, Track, Full Off) with traction control
and brake assist system

 

[HELLAFLUSH240SX]

Im not sure if I ever uploaded these.
Chicago Auto Show '13

 

[psntomaz]

Im not sure if I ever uploaded these.
Chicago Auto Show '13

Thats the "TA" Viper that Motortrend forced SRT to build....Though it was shown mths before as a Mopar Viper shown in that pic

 

[JohnBM01]

Memories. Absolutely love the Viper in Post #1042. They may need to do like old times and put in two more extra lights. And if it did race against the prototypes and such, this would obviously have amber lights rather than the white lights. Even I find beauty in what many would consider boring or plain. That's why I loved the simplistic red with white stripe Oreca Vipers more than I did the patriotic red/white/blue Oreca Vipers of the mid-late 1990s. And all of you who say "bring back the Oreca Vipers," I wouldn't mind seeing Team Oreca do so. Then again, they would probably feel they did only so much to make the Viper GTS-R even cooler than it already is. However, it would be more like bringing a band back together and performing one more session of awesomeness to their fans who supported them for so long and still support them.

Anyhow, I still love this car. I'd rather this than the C7 Corvette in a looks contest.

 

[Ddrizle]

The bits about the Viper's "archaic manual transmission, earplugs & advil, Prius comparison and melting paint" were comedy. The Viper looks very nice in white!

 

[Beeblebrox237]

The Viper's prettier, and has a manual, but the SLS is better in just about every other way. Honestly, I'm still amazed at how uncivilised the SRT is, fun though it may be.

 

[boomee]

Yeah Id buy the viper and refine it with the money saved vs the merc and yes I think the viper looks great in white

 

[Giygas]

Thats the "TA" Viper that Motortrend forced SRT to build....

Explain?

 

[Northstar]

Explain?

Read this👍

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

SRT Viper production cut by one third due to slow sales.

Why aren't they selling if they're so much better than the previous ones?

 

[McLaren]

Good job not revealing the rest of that sentence.

If you've driven the new SRT Viper, you probably want to own it--well, you do if you're the same kind of crazy we are. But apparently those of us who want it aren't buying it, as Chrysler has cut production by one-third due to slow sales and the impending fall and winter months.

Ultimately, it's perhaps unsurprising that given a still-slow economy and a great deal of political/governmental uncertainty about the future, the $102,485 SRT Viper hasn't been selling like the hot little bit of extremely fast cake it is.

You can take your obvious agenda elsewhere, now.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

What agenda? I just didn't feel like quoting the post that I linked. Ease off with the conspiracy theories..

 

[McLaren]

Says the man who exaggerated & twisted the words in another article about the new Viper in the other forum.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=288615

It's clear what your intentions were when you made the post. Take your trolling elsewhere.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Whatever. Shame that you feel that way instead of starting a discussion, that's what these boards are for. Some news aren't always good no matter how much you want them to be.

 

[McLaren]

Whatever. Shame that you feel that way instead of starting a discussion, that's what these boards are for. Some news aren't always good no matter how much you want them to be.

What's there to discuss? Everyone is well aware that you're only interested in discussing the Viper being a failure of a car after your comments in the other thread.

Meh. Same old recipe, now with improved interior quality. Sadly, the exterior still falls apart and catches on fire, given the chance, and apparently the floor gets so hot that it will burn your feet. Also, for a sportscar ( since supercar it is not), it has apparently unforgivable problem with brakes failing/disintegrating after couple laps.

Claim made.

Source would be Motortrends Best Drivers Car competition. One of Vipers grilles blew off from the hood while on the road, the pedal box and brakes failed completely during the track testing.

Link

Source only confirmed part of this. The rest, you twisted the words.

Or you could just accept that SRT Viper has shoddy quality for a car that is over 110k$.

You claim you want to start a discussion, yet you make it quite clear that you already have your opinion set & that we should "just accept" it because you know, your word is fact.

Right there. 110k track-oriented car, falling apart during heavy testing. Sure, it might be one off, a monday piece with mismatched tires and loose seat fastener bolts, but for that kind of price I would expect more.

Exorcet asks for proof, this is what you respond with.

We can only agree to disagree at this point. I've put in my vote, you have put in yours and that's it, no need to get all upset about it.

Then, you run away from the discussion claiming someone's upset.

Claim what you want, it's obvious why you made the original post the way you did.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Actually, I wouldn't mind owning one, mostly because it has more personality than the rest of the american sports cars. And while I would choose the 1st gen RT/10 and GTS over any gen after it, it doesn't mean that they're ALL rotten apples. I was just riled up because of that particular SRT Viper was in such a sorry and unforgivable state when it was delivered to the test, so yes, I did exaggerate.

 

[Keef]

Actually, I wouldn't mind owning one

You're part of the reason they're slowing production. Not because nobody wants it, but because the large amount of people who do want it can't afford it.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

You're part of the reason they're slowing production. Not because nobody wants it, but because the large amount of people who do want it can't afford it.

The people who can afford it want to buy a quality, refined product, at least for the most part. I'd imagine that most SRT Viper owners are either very wealthy or took out a massive loan.

 

[niky]

Who needs a massive loan? Just lease it and forego food for the next six years.

 

[Pupik]

You're part of the reason they're slowing production. Not because nobody wants it, but because the large amount of people who do want it can't afford it.

Welcome to...every exotic car?

I'm not going to turn this into an economic-disparity-woe-is-me-can't-have-supercar situation, but the number of GTP members that can afford any $100,000 car is probably about 10-20. And at that price level, there's loads of available choices. Or, for those of us with a decent income, that wacky need to buy a primary domicile. If Dodge allowed 30-year-payment books, I might reconsider.

Blaming the lust of a couple thousand forum-dwellers and car enthusiasts is such an absurdist notion, maybe it's Dodge who didn't do the proper market research in the first place (well, on the internet, the age group from 13-29 really likes it, and their parents make more money than before, thus all dogs are named Rover).

 

[Chikane_GTR]

Sad to hear the Viper isn't doing to good in sells

which is why i still think that SRT should make a 70.000$ version of the viper

With a V8 at around 520HP

Three cars that come to mind that this version would do well against.

C7

GT-R

458 Italia

 

[MoLiEG]

I can't imagine a Viper having a V8 engine... that would be... ehhh... wrong????

Sadly, I am another of the ones who'd love to own one, but I can't afford it just yet...

And no, I can't forget about eating

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Three cars that come to mind that this version would do well against.

C7

GT-R

458 Italia

The current Viper already has its hands full with the latter two, I can't imagine a cheaper, weaker version would do any better.

 

[TheCracker]

Would developing a new engine, or adapting someone else's existing one, be a cost effective way of boosting sales? Would a V8 Viper cost that much less? The Bentley Continental GT V8 is something like $15k less than the W12 (only an 8% or so reduction in price), and that's using an existing warmed under Audi unit.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I can't imagine the Viper's engine is terribly expensive.

 

[Firehound427]

I remember something... The Chrysler Firepower Concept of 2005(?). Awesome name aside, it was powered by the 6.1 Hemi V8 producing 425HP. Probably a proposal for a cheaper, more accessible alternative to the Viper. This was back when the Viper was truly a brutal car.

Maybe this is the kind of car you guys are talking about. Give it a new body, drop in the 392 Hemi and market it as a softer Chrysler GT like a DB9 to the Viper's Vanquish.

 

[psntomaz]

I remember something... The Chrysler Firepower Concept of 2005(?). Awesome name aside, it was powered by the 6.1 Hemi V8 producing 425HP. Probably a proposal for a cheaper, more accessible alternative to the Viper. This was back when the Viper was truly a brutal car.

Maybe this is the kind of car you guys are talking about. Give it a new body, drop in the 392 Hemi and market it as a softer Chrysler GT like a DB9 to the Viper's Vanquish.

That would work but with the added "Luxury" added to this model would put it at around 75-85K, cause its a Chrysler and it has to more of a Gran Tourer like a SL 500 and less "sports/muscle car" like a Challenger.

a V8 Viper can work just call it a "Copperhead" or "Diamond Back". but as Chrysler stated, the Hemi just isnt gona physicall fit in the Viper.

what could also work is give the base Viper a standard Regular SRT suspension with a softer setting, Rear quieter exhaust with noise cut out that Maserati has, Beats by Dre Audio system (Cheaper than the HK Systems in the SRT's). Leatherette with MicroFiber Seud inserts interior. that right there is atleast a $5000-10,000 reduction in price.

 

[Pupik]

A pity Dodge couldn't make good on a lot of their concepts of that time; along with the Firepower, the Razor and the ME12 were also swept under the rug (although I wasn't terribly confident the last example would reach production).