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[ozirules]

Just passed the 60,000 pts

 

[Juli@n]

Hey guys,

I'm close to the end now since I reached 111 752 A-spec points as you can see in my signature. The following races are left:

* 34 points in the 4 hours Roadster race --> might be the hardest race in my view and will be the last one I'll do !!
* 17 points in the mini race (NY) --> just need to use more the car
* 10 points in the Suzuki concepts race (3rd one) --> Quite tough races but using the car it should be achievable as well.

Since I'm about to take one month off I will probably end this A-spec quest in September. Meanwhile I wish you nice and funny holidays

Cheers,

Juli@n

 

[AMG.]

@ Julian
Just for you I have updated [post=2458971]this post[/post]

AMG.

 

[Juli@n]

Thanks a lot AMG, excellent work as usual... I finally manage to use the Subaru 360 and get the 144 points expected... I just edited my previous message in order to update my current GT4 status as regards the A-spec points...

By the way AMG, I don't see you progressing a lot these last weeks, are you on holiday by any chance ??? What are the races you still miss to get 111813 A-spec points ???

Juli@n

 

[AMG.]

I have come to a standstill due to lack of skills. Currently "competing" in WRS to see if I can improve my skills to, at some point in time (2015?), finish off some more 200 point races. My Nemesis is the FGT series. Whatever I try I am just not fast enough.
I also participate in a weekly lan with others, again to improve my skills.
So 111813 is not forgotten but I'm not actively chasing Aspecs at this point in time other than visiting & maintaining this subforum.
Once in a while I try one of the races listed below but so far no improvement to report

- Alpine Tokyo 185/200
- Hyundai Sports Festival 3/5 races at 156/176
- Suzuki Concept 2/3 at 194/200
- Saleen S7 Club 2/5 at 174/200
- MG Festival 2/5 at 160/180
- Copen Race 2/3 at 150/166
- FGT 26xx or 28xx/3000 (4-5 races to do)
- MX5 4hrs 149/200
In total still 493 to go

AMG.

 

[Juli@n]

Don't give up AMG !!! Keep trying and you'll succeed... As regards the FGT championship, I used the Mazda 787B Black Car (stock) with C2/C1 for the 1st run and C3/C1 for the rest of the race. As far as I remember, the F1 had very short runs compared to me, so that after 3 runs I get the 1st position. You just need to focus on not being more than 30 seconds behind the leader over the first 45 minutes. Anyway you probably already know that..

 

[Juli@n]

Hey guys,

this will be my last message since I'm leaving tomorrow for holidays. I have reached 111 779 A-spec points and I miss now only 34 points in the the race 4 hours Roadster. I tried several times this race, I manage to get behing the Mazda 1,8 and the Masda 1800 RS after 10 laps using quite all the NOS... But I still fail in getting behind the 1st which is a Mazda SR limited (1st lineup). I guess that I have to try again, again and again... but I don't have time left before I leave. So I'll dot that end of august when I come back...

Cheers and have nice holidays too...

Juli@n

 

[SuperCobraJet]

I have come to a standstill due to lack of skills. Currently "competing" in WRS to see if I can improve my skills to, at some point in time (2015?), finish off some more 200 point races. My Nemesis is the FGT series. Whatever I try I am just not fast enough.
I also participate in a weekly lan with others, again to improve my skills.
So 111813 is not forgotten but I'm not actively chasing Aspecs at this point in time other than visiting & maintaining this subforum.
Once in a while I try one of the races listed below but so far no improvement to report

- Alpine Tokyo 185/200
- Hyundai Sports Festival 3/5 races at 156/176
- Suzuki Concept 2/3 at 194/200
- Saleen S7 Club 2/5 at 174/200
- MG Festival 2/5 at 160/180
- Copen Race 2/3 at 150/166
- FGT 26xx or 28xx/3000 (4-5 races to do)
- MX5 4hrs 149/200
In total still 493 to go

AMG.

Don't despair AMG, all the races you have listed are among the toughest for max points. There are some others that are just as hard, which you have evidently completed so the ones left, you can win.

BTW a BIG BIG CONGRATS to all the guys who have made it to the 100,000 and 111,813 points in the last few months. IMO, its an accomplishment of Major Sticktoitiveness Proportions.

I haven't posted in quite a while due to time constraints but have been following the 200pt thread to some degree.
All the available time I can muster is being consumed by the quest for 111,813 points. Currently I have about 3000 left. Hope to be providing a photo in the near future.

AMG your snag on these races may not be skill alone. I have completed all the ones you list except one series and one race in another series. I found you must run the right lineup and you must have a good setup or you will not win these very difficult races. Some of the cars, setups, and lineups I have seen posted, in my experience are not winable. I am playing the NA ver. and there are evidently some differences in the PAL, as far as lineups and the pace of them and that may account for some this.

A good case in point is the FGT series. I completed all the races except Suzuka with the R-8 or the black 787. Some of them were very difficult and required many attempts but with almost error free driving were winable. Suzuka was a whole nuther story. You had to cut laps consistently in the 1:39 to 1:40 range to win that race and I could not do it with either of those cars no matter how they were setup. I had to revert to a ballasted FGT car to win that race. Some have claimed they won this race with those cars but in the GT4 I'm playing, I found it to be virtually impossible.

Anyway one last tidbit or two. Take on Alpine and S-7, there the easiest out of that list. Something else I do and it may work for you is once you pick the next race do not stop running it till you win it for max pts. You are never as practiced and familarized as you are after running it 10,20,30 or more times and some of those races may take that many. If you switch off to another race you will have to re-acclimate when you come back. If after that many attempts you are not close to winning you may need to re-evaluate your lineup and/or setup.

Well, Happy Motoring to all you 200pt. nutters.(such as it is)

 

[FLK]

I know this is probably off topic and also perhaps a bad idea but would a thread for close races be a good idea (regardless of A-spec points) as some 200 A-spec races (or less than) can still be won with fairly large margins. I'm also worried that this would just apply to endurances so it's probably not such a great idea of mine, also the fact that most 200 A-spec races usually end up close anyway plus various race reports.

I was just curious as some of us hunt for very close races and this would help people get an idea of what car they would need to pick. So what do you lot think to this?

 

[AMG.]

I know this is probably off topic and also perhaps a bad idea but would a thread for close races be a good idea .....

I've no intention on raining on your parade but euh....
Yes, it is off topic as it is not about anything goes 200 points & stock max points. This subforum was set up for exactly those two goals.
The idea is NOT bad as there are quite a # people who much more enjoy close racing, tbh so do I when I'm not pursuing 200 pts.

I'm not sure if there is such a thread but you might want to try your luck in Race reports (Smallhorses & Famine) or even in some of the OLR threads/forums.

You may also have noticed this particular subforum like the Missions forum are closed (= you can post but not create a new thread).

Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. I wish you luck in finding close racing. The best close racing I've found is LANning with others. I'm not quite up to speed of the other contestants but I do see improvements.

AMG.

 

[FLK]

It was just an idea I had floating about but after more thought I think there's enough infomation scattered around here already which would make such a thread pretty pointless. Anyway back on topic.....

 

[SuperCobraJet]

It is out of tremendous frustration I make this post, and from review of some prior posts on the subject, I'm not alone.

Apparently my quest for the 111,813 pts is going to be denied, not because of lack of skill, patience, and determination, but rather a goofy srewup glitch, evidently in many and possibly most of the NA versions of the game.

Specifcally; that 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Copen.

For over a month, to no avail, I have attempted with at least 8 (I lost exact count) Copens to wear down the HP using 4 to 5 different set-up combinations in each one.

Ziltch is all have to show for it. 113/58 is it, no matter what I try, which at this point has been about 40 different combinations of parts, gearing, redlining, and other variants including all the posted set-ups. I even tried 2 different game discs, playing on PS3, and 3 seperate games, one a new startup.

Thru these experiments the only thing I found a little unusual was you could reduce the HP to 58 in about the same mileage without even redlining the car, and that was a discovery born out of desperation.

At this point I would like to add that, I have never had this problem with any other car in the game which includes all but the 2CV and Megane which are 2 of only 6 series I have left to do and I havn't literally run those 2 cars down yet.

Also at this point I can only conclude that it is
1: Not possible to achieve the HP needed for max pts with the game discs I am using do to some flaw or glitch.
or
2: There is still some magic combination or window of checking during run down, I have managed to miss in all my multiple tries, that will yield the proper result. (Needless to say, I am clueless as to what that could be)

Should anyone out there have any suggestions that might shed some light on this problem, please do not hesitate to post them.

After further research into the posts of the 200pt. thread I have been unable to conclusively find anyone who has achieved max pts or won the Copen races for 166pts. each using the NA ver. of this game.
This leads me to think that the problem may very well be conclusion #1.

 

[-W-]

It is out of tremendous frustration I make this post, and from review of some prior posts on the subject, I'm not alone.

...

Ziltch is all have to show for it. 113/58 is it, no matter what I try

...

Should anyone out there have any suggestions that might shed some light on this problem, please do not hesitate to post them.

After further research into the posts of the 200pt. thread I have been unable to conclusively find anyone who has achieved max pts or won the Copen races for 166pts. each using the NA ver. of this game.
This leads me to think that the problem may very well be conclusion #1.

I first want to thank all who have contributed to this great forum.

It is out of tremendous delight I make this post.

I am happy to report that I have a North American version of the game with a 112/57 Daihatsu Copen Active Top '02 just finished tonight!!!

My story: After running it 9000 miles to get it to 113/58, I ran the races and settled with 163/147/164. Extremely frustrated with Motorland, I moved on to other things. For kicks I ran it to 12000 miles and couldn't get it any lower than 58 so I left it on the backburner for a rainy day (tonight!). I'm so glad you posted because if you hadn't I wouldn't have noticed that my car was actually down to 112/58, a little bit lower than your listed 113/58. I ran the car to 13131.1 miles and it is now at 112/57. I just finished the Tsukuba race for 166 points!!!!! 'Edit: all three completed for 166 each'

My 'engine wear' setups:

0-9,000 miles (Below settings except tranny set so I'm a little bit below aspec redline at top speed, 4-8?)

9,000-12,000 miles (Below settings except tranny set to something low like 2. I think I used the same settings for the Test Course and the Ring)

12,000-13,000 miles (Below settings with tranny at 10)

Exhaust: Racing
Racing Chip: Sports
NA Tuning: None
Tire Type: Sports Front/Medium (S2), Rear/Medium (S2)

Nitrous: Equip (50)
Turbine Kit: Stage 3
Intercooler: Racing
Supercharger: None
Brakes: Racing
Brake Controller: Equip (Default - F3/R3)

Suspension: Racing (Default)
Transmission: Full Customize (10/5.545)
Clutch: Triple-plate
Flywheel: Racing
Carbon Driveshaft: None
Driving Aids: 0/0/0

Downforce: None
Limited-slip: Full Customize (Default)
AYC Controller: None
Variable Center Diff.: Standard
Weight Balance: 0/0

I ran the Test Course at the Driving Park in Director's mode at level 5 with first person view at 3X speed for the first 9000 miles. I then ran the Test Course and the Ring for 3000 miles (Test Course: ??? / Ring: level 5, tranny at something low like 2). Tonight, I was curious about laptimes and was just comparing my backup (9000 miles) to my current game (12000 miles) to see if I could predict HP based on laptimes. I then stopped the game when laptimes had degraded just over a tenth and HP was the same. Frustrated, I just started both games again and started searching these forums, only to find out that other NA versions were having the same problem. One post seemed to indicate that they had close to 100,000 miles on their Copen so I was actually going to shut off the game and consider 164 the max for North America. Glad I didn't.

I'm going to see if I can run the backup down to 57hp with a 'black label' version of the game. 'Edit: Done, 57hp after 16000 miles but probably can be done with much less mileage' I used a 'red label' to achieve this milestone.

'Edit: Experimenting with new Copen to see how mileage and other stuff affect hp'

 

[SuperCobraJet]

I'm so glad you posted because if you hadn't I wouldn't have noticed that my car was actually down to 112/58, a little bit lower than your listed 113/58.
One post seemed to indicate that they had close to 100,000 miles on their Copen so I was actually going to shut off the game and consider 164 the max for North America. Glad I didn't.

I'm going to see if I can run the backup down to 57hp with a 'black label' version of the game. I used a 'red label' to achieve this milestone.

I am VERY GLAD you didn't as well.
I can't begin to tell you how encouraged I am at your findings, even though I have already run many Copen wear-down attempts between 15,000 and 30,000 mi. one over 50,000.

Never the less, finally, there is a confirmed NA player who has actually secured the wear-down HP on that wretched Copen, necessary to obtain 166 pts.

I believe prior posts thruout this thread definately indicate something screwy about this feat in the NA ver. of the game.
bttlefed gave up on the MAX pts quest, because he could not wear this car down to the HP required, needing only the 6 pts that 1HP prevented him from being offered in the Copen races.

Likewise, to-date, I am in the same boat. Unless I can find a way to get that 1HP off this car, I am stuck, and cannot continue.

In your post you list Transmission: Full Customize (10/5.545) I assume the 10 is the auto setting?
If so that will have it bouncing off the rev limiter, which I tried once too, but hey who knows, I'll try it again.
Whoops, sorry wrong direction. Auto 10 takes it to max speed and probably won't redline. In my previous post I made note of the fact I could get the HP down to 113/58 without redlining. I'll try it.

I am using two "black label" versions.

Many thanks for your informative post. Even though I am still stuck between conclusions 1 and 2 you have confirmed it is possible to do with at least one NA ver of the game.

Update 10/02/07 Using auto 10/5.545 final gearing and the exact parts as -W- listed above in post 163, at just over 9400 mi. that major PITA Copen finally gave it up, 111/57HP. I had almost lost hope of ever making it happen. That Copen is a real weird egg, at those settings you don't come close to redlining. Hey go figure. Have already got 166pts in the first race at Tsukuba. Looks like I may have to pack a lunch for Motorland though.
Many thanks to -W- for the reply post on this subject and while I'm at it, to all who contribute herein.

 

[AMG.]

Glad to hear you made it Cobra. Good luck with the other two races.

To -W- a warm welcome to the Aspec nutter club. Good to read there are still people out there willing to go for this seemingly impossible goal.

One of these days I might actually achieve it too

AMG.

 

[-W-]

Thanks for the warm welcome. Just trying to help out anyway I can. I have a couple more experiments I want to run. Hopefully, they'll lead to something pretty useful.

 

[Car-less]

Thanks for the warm welcome. Just trying to help out anyway I can. I have a couple more experiments I want to run. Hopefully, they'll lead to something pretty useful.

As have I. If we are thinking of the same series of experiments then perhaps we can colaborate to get things done quicker - I'm expecting to run a minimum of 100,000 miles in engine wearing comparasons.

 

[Open Addict]

hi guys, as you can see in my sig i am on my way about to pass the 70,000 mark. Just wondering if anyone has any tips for set-ups to get 200 pointers using n1 tyres on the front of cars. examples i have tried are alpine and audi tt and just cannot get the blasted things to turn. i have seen that jacking up front suspension and giving more camber can help.

will all races requiring n1's be this tough and would these tips that are supplied be useful for most of the races need to use n1's on fronts.

thanks in advance

 

[SuperCobraJet]

hi guys, as you can see in my sig i am on my way about to pass the 70,000 mark. Just wondering if anyone has any tips for set-ups to get 200 pointers using n1 tyres on the front of cars. examples i have tried are alpine and audi tt and just cannot get the blasted things to turn. i have seen that jacking up front suspension and giving more camber can help.

See posts# 44 and 45 in the One Make Races France and Germany.
Use the VCD Controller, found next to weight reduction to help improve the TT.
A search on the specific car, can help you find additional setup info especially in the original 200pt thread.

will all races requiring n1's be this tough and would these tips that are supplied be useful for most of the races need to use n1's on fronts.

Pretty much, though some are easier than others.
Yes they will, but there's no substitute for set-up practicing and experimentation.
Since your the one driving, you may race better with the car a little this way or that way.
Hope this is of help to you.

 

[Open Addict]

See posts# 44 and 45 in the One Make Races France and Germany.
Use the VCD Controller, found next to weight reduction to help improve the TT.
A search on the specific car, can help you find additional setup info especially in the original 200pt thread.

Pretty much, though some are easier than others.
Yes they will, but there's no substitute for set-up practicing and experimentation.
Since your the one driving, you may race better with the car a little this way or that way.
Hope this is of help to you.

thanks for the info. i did find the audi TT details. i was just wondering if it gets too hard from here or i keep continuing the quest. you and every one else who has reached max points give me hope that i too can join the club.

 

[AMG.]

thanks for the info. i did find the audi TT details. i was just wondering if it gets too hard from here or i keep continuing the quest. you and every one else who has reached max points give me hope that i too can join the club.

It gets tougher, but when I got to 100K I looked back and found it very satisfying. I am an average driver and still managed 111K. Just perserve if you really want to reach >100K.

AMG.

 

[Open Addict]

It gets tougher, but when I got to 100K I looked back and found it very satisfying. I am an average driver and still managed 111K. Just perserve if you really want to reach >100K.

AMG.

thanks for the vote of confidence. i shall keep trying.👍

 

[SuperCobraJet]

thanks for the info. i did find the audi TT details. i was just wondering if it gets too hard from here or i keep continuing the quest. you and every one else who has reached max points give me hope that i too can join the club.

Some of the races are very difficult and at first may even seem impossible, but they can be done.

Besides having ample quantities of perseverance, persistence, and determination the best other advice I can give is:

I found you must run the right lineup and you must have a good setup or you will not win these very difficult races.

You are never as practiced and familarized as you are after running it 10,20,30 or more times and some of those races may take that many. If you switch off to another race you will have to re-acclimate when you come back. If after that many attempts you are not close to winning you may need to re-evaluate your lineup and/or setup.

Go for it !

BTW I forgot to mention, my wife hates for me to play this game too. Naturally its the one I like to play the most.

 

[MacTarmac]

Hi again

Holiday season is over and the PS2 has been left in the background for a while...

But I am back, and hooked again! Currently looking at 30,828 points and working my way through the final professional events (1,394 poits left there).

Meanwhile, I figured out how some people got 80 + 5 gold medals, so I am giving the coffee break licenses a go as well. And I am also trying to get my car list complete, so I am chasing all specials now (only 13 left, and a whole lot of cars that can be bought any time).

Probably only a matter of time before I try to max out the B-sepc points as well

Did I mention that I was hooked again?

 

[Open Addict]

Some of the races are very difficult and at first may even seem impossible, but they can be done.

Besides having ample quantities of perseverance, persistence, and determination the best other advice I can give is:


Go for it !

BTW I forgot to mention, my wife hates for me to play this game too. Naturally its the one I like to play the most.

i am going to have to buy another ps2 so my wife can play her games at the same time.

Audi TT cleaned up last night. all the settings and tips worked well. was a little tough but got there. 👍 for the help.

 

[-W-]

Congrats SuperCobraJet on attaining max A-spec!

Dumb question but how do you get 100% win percentage? Do you reset before any loss is recorded or can you rerun a race to erase a loss?

I may never reach max A-spec but my advice to others is to keep at it. If I'm having trouble with a race, I see where I fall behind and work on that corner/complex of corners. It's usually because I'm trying to go too fast and sometimes it's because I've got the line all wrong. I've found tuning the suspension helps in the difficult low horsepower cars. I tend to do parts of random series here and there. I also tend to try and get max A-spec the first time on each race. Oh yeah, I'm also one of the dirtiest drivers out there.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

Congrats SuperCobraJet on attaining max A-spec!

Thanks -W-

Dumb question but how do you get 100% win percentage? Do you reset before any loss is recorded or can you rerun a race to erase a loss?

You reset. Once you lose a race, and you save the game you can't undoit.

Once I forgot I lost a race and switched cars which saves the game. I hadn't saved to my backup card recently and had to do 3 or 4 series over again.

BTW this adds considerably more time to the quest, probably between 30% to 50% longer.
Also for some races it adds more pressure and makes it harder.
I can't tell you how many times I almost chucked that 100%.

Oh yeah, I'm also one of the dirtiest drivers out there.

That will come in handy for many of the Max pts. races and will be a requirement to win some.

 

[MacTarmac]

Yeah, finally nailed the ring in World Classic Car Series

Which means I wrapped up all professional events

So, beginner events, professional events, missions and Family cup down. What's next?

 

[SportWagon]

Oh dear. I think I've found a cheating way to get the 200pts for the Family Cup.

I took my worn-out Motul Pitwork Z with R5's, and managed to get 200 points at level 10 at Tsukuba Wet. I might have entered with R1's and switched in setup? (I'll try to rerun some time to see if that works, etc.; I'll also try a fresher copy of the same car, too). Anyway, I beat the Panoz which turned up by about 10 seconds, even though my drive was not incident-free, let alone perfect.

I tried this based on how easy it was to use the same car to get a similar (but closer) 200pt result in the Hard Special Conditions race at the same course.

It's not Dodge Ram type cheating, but it's still sort of baby-candy-stealing simple.

 

[AMG.]

Yeah, finally nailed the ring in World Classic Car Series Which means I wrapped up all professional events So, beginner events, professional events, missions and Family cup down. What's next?

Get the Spec Conditions out of the way, they're a pita. Or the MX5 4 hour race.

AMG.