So when Covid is a couple years behind us, and mask mandates have been lifted worldwide, I trust that you’ll still be wearing your N95 right? COVID isn’t the only airborne transmissible illness you know…
I get the collective “everyone do their part to not spread the virus” bit… I really do.
But there seems like their needs to be a time when personal accountability comes into play, and if the individual feels they are at substantial risk of complications due to Covid, it’s their job to take what they feel is proper precautions. Not mine.
What your job is regarding taking the proper precautions depends on a lot of things, and it changes as the pandemic evolves. You're over-simplifying to say that it's their job, not yours. You're required to take
reasonable precautions to keep the people around you from getting sick. During a pandemic, that might require wearing masks.
Fundamentally, at the most philosophical moral level of this discussion, you simply do not have the freedom to get other people sick. If you think that's your freedom, you're mistaken. I've explained to you before that you might not be considered at fault if you accidentally get someone sick having taken reasonable precautions, but it's not your right to infect others.
You have a right not to wear a mask... in your house... on your property. When you go to someone
else's property, or on public property, you might have to take reasonable precautions to make sure you're not infecting others, and it's not your right to do otherwise.
Same rules apply to when I’m scanning my mirrors during 120 mile commute to work and I see an a-hole weaving in and out of lanes going 30mph over the speed limit. Should I go and block him because it’s my responsibility to keep the other people on the freeway safe? Or should I get the hell out of the way and pray to god that other people are utilizing defensive driving techniques like common sense and drivers training dictates?
You're required not to go 30mph over the speed limit weaving in and out of lanes like an a-hole because that's a
reasonable precaution imposed upon you to keep those around you from getting hurt. It's not your right to go 30mph over the speed limit like an a-hole. This is analogized to "it's not your right to refuse to wear a mask like an a-hole".
World wide, we’re already starting to see governments lift mandates. I’m honestly curious to see how the political and medical leaders are going to frame it? Like, if they’ll try to frame it as we beat Covid or whatever…
I for one, equate it to Americas withdrawal from Vietnam and our latest dismal withdrawal from Afghanistan. We got out because we lost. We got out because nothing was working.
We tried to minimize the loss of life until the pandemic calmed down and people got protected. What on earth did you think was going to happen?
It is what was said from the very beginning and all the way through the pandemic. Flatten the curve at the ER, be safe until folks can get vaccinated. That's exactly what happened. It's not a war, it's not Vietnam, and there's no need to "frame" anything.
The only thing that curbed this virus was lockdowns. The only thing the “vaccine” did was keep people out of the hospital, and people with pre-existing health conditions alive.
That's "all" the vaccines did? Well that's amazing then. But the vaccines also did so much to combat delta, a more deadly variant. The vaccines combated the spread of the variant of the moment, and mitigated the damage of new variants afterward, which is what's bringing on the end of the pandemic.
Masks also work well (unless you wear them under your chin or cut holes in them).
But not nearly enough to warrant vaccine mandates IMHO. The omicron variant proved that if anything.
I have no idea what you think omicron proved here.
Called my mom yesterday to say what’s up like I usually do every couple days or so. She’s positive. Not feeling super great. Not horrible by any means… just sick. She got her booster 2 months ago. And oh yea, this her second time positive too, just like me.
The booster is a good thing to have if you're going to get omicron.
This is the definition of a Vaccine. This Covid Vaccine we have hardly fits the description of this word by way of providing “immunity” as so the definition states.
It's not a vaccine unless it provides perfect immunity? Ok bud, give me an example of a "vaccine" then.
At this point, the Covid vaccine is little more than a pre-emptive therapeutic or booster.
This is profoundly incorrect and uninformed.