[Gran Turismo 5 @ E3 2010] (SEE POST 1!: New Vids, Pics, Interviews!)

[evilfoxhound]

No, they are not!
They even have fully modelled interiors.
The cars in GTHD Concept look almost identical to the cars in GT5, they are not GT4 models.

GTHD didn't have cockpit view because it was GT4 upscaled. Even Kaz said so.

 

[HN7]

I can't believe standard cars won't have interior view.
I can't believe all the madness going on here.

Seriously though, let's take what we know, accept it and move on, wait for for news from future game show.

 

[eSZee]

These standard cars are slowly diminishing my hope for visual customization of cars.

 

[bigred5050]

Hmm... so those videos we saw earlier with 16 cars racing around - were those "premium" cars, or "standard" cars? Can anyone confirm?

They wouldn't make it so if you're racing standard cars you can have a field of 16, but premium cars have a field of 8.... would they?

Someone tell me I'm wrong.

 

[Jantsu92]

GTHD didn't have cockpit view.

Yes but GTHD cars still have modeled interiors. GTHD cars looks as good as GT5 Prologue cars.

 

[eSZee]

Hmm... so those videos we saw earlier with 16 cars racing around - were those "premium" cars, or "standard" cars? Can anyone confirm?

They wouldn't make it so if you're racing standard cars you can have a field of 16, but premium cars have a field of 8.... would they?

Someone tell me I'm wrong.

It was gt500 and nascar cars, so yeah, 16 no matter what.

 

[G.T.Ace]

No, but still fully modeled interiors you could see from the outside.

EDIT: Toooooo slow.

 

[RACECAR]

Hmm... so those videos we saw earlier with 16 cars racing around - were those "premium" cars, or "standard" cars? Can anyone confirm?

They wouldn't make it so if you're racing standard cars you can have a field of 16, but premium cars have a field of 8.... would they?

Someone tell me I'm wrong.

16 Premium cars have been seen on track three times during the gamespot interview.

 

[oJayTo]

Hmm... so those videos we saw earlier with 16 cars racing around - were those "premium" cars, or "standard" cars? Can anyone confirm?

They wouldn't make it so if you're racing standard cars you can have a field of 16, but premium cars have a field of 8.... would they?

Someone tell me I'm wrong.

They were premium, I presume your talking about the super gt.

 

[LP670-4 SV]

All of this standard model talk is giving me the urge to pick up GT4 again

i said that in another thread , i can hear all the Forza Fan boy's mocking us to no end with look at my cars interior oh i forgot you don't get one............

 

[JDMKING13]

These standard cars are slowly diminishing my hope for visual customization of cars.

Not only that What about the head tracking?

 

[MrRoadRace]

This is all nascars fault! lol i still cant wait to play because I am dieing to see how the new physics engine handles.

 

[wajdi1977]

Hmm... so those videos we saw earlier with 16 cars racing around - were those "premium" cars, or "standard" cars? Can anyone confirm?

They wouldn't make it so if you're racing standard cars you can have a field of 16, but premium cars have a field of 8.... would they?

Someone tell me I'm wrong.

Nope!!!

 

[bigred5050]

Not only that What about the head tracking?

Head tracking won't work (or wouldn't be necessary) if there's no cockpit view.... Probably right.

 

[HN7]

Head tracking won't work (or wouldn't be necessary) if there's no cockpit view.... Probably right.

You can still look left and right just like using the right analog stick.

 

[RACECAR]

 

[Stratosphere03]

I'm just gonna put myself in the mindset that the premium cars are part of the core GT5, and the standard cars are part of an additional 'Classic Mode'. Yeah that makes me feel better already.

 

[PirateThom]

I'm just gonna put myself in the mindset that the premium cars are part of the core GT5, and the standard cars are part of an additional 'Classic Mode'. Yeah that makes me feel better already.

That's how I'm looking at it, combined with car numbers from other new GT games on new consoles.

It's worked well and made me feel better and just want the game more.

 

[oJayTo]

Posted already but did anyone notice the sound in the standard video or is it so bad that people dont want to talk about it

 

[Qronicle]

I'm just gonna put myself in the mindset that the premium cars are part of the core GT5, and the standard cars are part of an additional 'Classic Mode'. Yeah that makes me feel better already.

Yeah i find it easy to think about how GT3 only had 160 or so cars, and still is my favourite of the series.
I do however hope they don't mix the premium and standard cars too much in races. I'm kind of a replay whore and it will be really strange seeing those two types in one shot.

Fingers crossed for the inclusion of Trial mountain and Grand Valley now

 

[LancerEvoX]

First off, i fail to see anywhere it's been stated _clearly_! that there is no cockpit view in standard cars. It is all a matter of interpitation, and I look at it as there will be cockpitview in all cars, but not as detailed as in premium.

Second, if you want more than 200 premium cars, then you can drop the 2010 release date, and put a 2020 releasedate+ on it, if you want all 1000 cars to be premium. I don't want that. I much rather want to have some nice cars, a good game driving wise, GTmode as we know it + some new maybe, better online, and overall astonishing graphics. Then i can live with 200 cars being much smoother and more detailed than the rest 800. Easily...



PS: Good thing about ps3 = you can get DLC! See what i did there?

Completely agree. It seems like people think that there will only be 200 cars worth driving which is clearly not the case. And besides, whats wrong with bumper cam?

 

[LaBounti]

I shall leave, I suggest others do the same and just not watch this disastrous thread anymore .... Good day...

 

[Seismica]

It was gt500 and nascar cars, so yeah, 16 no matter what.

But can we go the other way with that argument?

I mean, 16 premium cars are confirmed. Premium cars are suspected to be somewhere between 200,000 and 500,000 polygons.

GT4 cars were around 4,000 if I remember correctly.

Obviously it's not 16*(200,000/4,000)=Number of cars we can see on track. Polygons aren't the only issue.

But surely we can push to 20 or even 24, if it's a standard car only event. The vast difference in polygons leaves quite a large black hole in the cell processor's power, which will go to waste otherwise.

I can understand exactly why PD have done what they have done. It wasn't intended, but they simply ran out of time, by 2008-2009 they must have realised the impossible nature of the task they had set themselves within the time they had allocated. Something had to give, the cars or the release date. The cars did, because you can't delay a release date indefinitely without going into Duke Nukem territory.

Those 200 cars are future proof, and providing they keep the licenses, those 200 cars will be in GT6, GT7 and so on and so forth. And they don't need to be touched, at all, regardless of the improvements in the hardware, because they are already so detailed.

 

[Conquerer]

Honestly, we never had cockpit view until GT5P and that was fine so it's not a massive deal to me (although yeah, it definitely hurts to have 800 without cockpits). I'm not kidding myself though, I'm still going to drive them and spend a lot of time with them, however I not quite as much as I'll spend with the premium cars. Although to be honestly, thankfully all the new brands to the series (Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren, Bugatti, Maserati) are all premium since I'll be using them the most in GT5.

 

[Strittan]

Nope!!!

Best GIF ever! There are cars all over the place!

 

[eSZee]

But can we go the other way with that argument?

I mean, 16 premium cars are confirmed. Premium cars are suspected to be somewhere between 200,000 and 500,000 polygons.

GT4 cars were around 4,000 if I remember correctly.

Obviously it's not 16*(200,000/4,000)=Number of cars we can see on track. Polygons aren't the only issue.

But surely we can push to 20 or even 24, if it's a standard car only event. The vast difference in polygons leaves quite a large black hole in the cell processor's power, which will go to waste otherwise.

I can understand exactly why PD have done what they have done. It wasn't intended, but they ran out of time. Those 200 cars are future proof, and providing they keep the licenses, those 200 cars will be in GT6, GT7 and so on and so forth. And they don't need to be touched, at all, regardless of the improvements in the hardware, because they are already so detailed.

Good points.
I'm wondering, can we even have standard and premium cars ont he track at the same time? We haven't seen it so I'm just asking.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Good points.
I'm wondering, can we even have standard and premium cars ont he track at the same time? We haven't seen it so I'm just asking.

I doubt it, would look weird anyway.

 

[JDMKING13]

I have read the official site news and i dont see where people are getting there is no cockpit view for the 800 cars. it says " "Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view." is this where people are saying there is no cockpit view for the standard cars?

 

[eSZee]

I doubt it, would look weird anyway.

That's would be a bigger disappointment that anything else so far. It would really be like 2 different games. Your entire "career" up until the big boy super cars, would pretty much be standard cars.

 

[G.T.Ace]

I have read the official site news and i dont see where people are getting there is no cockpit view for the 800 cars. it says " "Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view." is this where people are saying there is no cockpit view for the standard cars?

They don't even have basic modeled interiors from the outside, you don't really think they will have a proper cockpit view?