Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3

BOOMBOOM669
All they would need to do to steal the show was announce a slim vita, GT6, more details on PS4 and other PS only games
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Individualy Hardly aany of those would steel the show from a console announcement.Combined then what's left for E3 :lol:
 
novcze
Drive Club is what ... arcade racer with real cars, something like next-gen Ridge Racer. I don't see how GT6 can interfere with that. I would happily buy both and play the hell out of them.

And two consoles under TV is no go, at least for me.
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You don't see how if two racing titles are both launch titles they established name would utterly dominate the sales?

You may well buy both, the vast majority wouldn't.


novcze
Everything I saw from this game points in that direction (arcade/simcade), but nothing is confirmed yet, but I would bet on it.
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A simcade, you mean just like GT?


KinLM
I don't think that's a very fair judgement.

Tons of people will buy a GT title no matter what, because it's a GT title, because it's backed by more advertising, etc.

Therefore, it'll always be harder for a game such as Enthusia to outsell GT4, even if it's better.

I doubt GT4 took away many sales from Enthusia. And I doubt GT6 would take away many sales from DriveClub. I'd buy both of them. It's just harder for a small-name game to make itself heard and sell a bunch of games, so comparing its sales figures to a massive-name that solely makes racing games and is completely backed by Sony just doesn't seem fair.
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So people would automatically gravitate towards GT for all the reasons you say (quite correctly) but that wouldn't affect the sales of the other racer at launch?

Leaving DriveClub as the only Sony backed racer at launch is exactly what is needed to push it forward as a brand, make it the only option they have as a racer and people will buy it. Stick it out with a GT title and people will pass it over.


gt5 brad gt5
A question that I have been wanting to ask. If they launch it on PS3 & 4, won't that have an effect on PS4 sales?
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If Sony needed a GT title to sell a new console then they did something magical with the PS2 and PS3, given that both sold out at launch without a GT title.

Look at the maths, a GT title needs an install base of around 5 million at least to justify a release, any less than that and it not worth selling a GT title (unless you want it to be the lowest selling GT title on release day ever). So do you believe that Sony are going to shift that many PS4's on launch day?
 
If GT6 is going to be announced I just want to see one of those epic trailers that just only PD can make.

If it comes out in the PS3 (it will) and in the PS4 as well (could be), I just want that the cars sounds realistic, tons of tracks, all cars premiums, a livery editor and finished features.

Just that.

These days I´m playing rFactor 2 with a paid mod called T5 series (DTM 2012) and it came with some self made liveries but one guy made the real ones and the mod is incredible. Is like having the real deal cars, how simple liveries can change the cars, and not just the way they look is incredible.
Also I know a guy who make really good ones in Forza and he also says that if GT includes a livery editor it will be incredible because of the graphics. (he makes realistic race liveries with 100% detail for rFactor and Forza)

An example of good liveries, and sorry for "cool story bro" and out of topic:

rFactor 2 pics:
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Again sorry. ;)
 
i dont know if this has already bin posted but: i myself think gt6 will most likely be on the ps4 BUT only if kaz and PD listened to their fans, we all want a livery editor, more cars, better track environment and atmosphere, more car customization, more premium cars with good interiors and so on and so forth, but that also require's a lot more RAM and such, something that the PS4 has alot more of, therefore PD can make a better game, the more the system has to offer the better the game will be, everything right know is speculation are you positive we will get the game this november? are you positive that the guy who said GT6 will be on ps3 knows what he is talking about? i dont think that GT6 will be released on PS3 because well PD can make a better game on PS4, but this is all opinion based of course.
 
UnKnOwN287
I dont know if this has already bin posted but: I myself think GT6 will most likely be on the PS4 BUT only if Kaz and PD listened to their fans, we all want a livery editor, more cars, better track environment and atmosphere, more car customization, more premium cars with good interiors and so on and so forth, but that also require's a lot more RAM and such, something that the PS4 has alot more of,
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Very little to none of what you have listed needs a lot more RAM at all, it fact most of what you listed is exactly what was expected of GT5 on the PS3.


UnKnOwN287
therefore PD can make a better game, the more the system has to offer the better the game will be, everything right know is speculation are you positive we will get the game this November?
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Better system =/= better game.


UnKnOwN287
are you positive that the guy who said GT6 will be on PS3 knows what he is talking about?
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Given that he's the Senior Vice President of the Sony division that has always been the biggest market for the GT series (SCEE) I would say its a fairly safe bet to say that he knows exactly what he is talking about.


UnKnOwN287
I don't think that GT6 will be released on PS3 because well PD can make a better game on PS4, but this is all opinion based of course.
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It is indeed and for many reasons (that I have covered many times before) I disagree with you.

Oh and please can you ensure that you follow the AUP that you agreed to when you joined when you post in future, in particular this part...

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You will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in your messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters.
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Scaff
Very little to none of what you have listed needs a lot more RAM at all, it fact most of what you listed is exactly what was expected of GT5 on the PS3.



Better system =/= better game.



Given that he's the Senior Vice President of the Sony division that has always been the biggest market for the GT series (SCEE) I would say its a fairly safe bet to say that he knows exactly what he is talking about.



It is indeed and for many reasons (that I have covered many times before) I disagree with you.

Oh and please can you ensure that you follow the AUP that you agreed to when you joined when you post in future, in particular this part...
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Yes very little of what I said might need more RAM but some does, I did not mean just RAM which is why I said and such, I merely used RAM as an example, and yes it was expected in GT5 but it wasn't maybe because there was already enough to the game as it is? i mean GT5 is a huge game. and I meant to say better system= better potential for a game, the more the system has to offer the more you can do to the game, something that PD can take advantage of with more RAM, faster processor, better graphics card and all that other PS4 power. I was not aware he was the Senior Vice President all I knew is that someone from Sony said GT6 will come out on the PS3. May I ask what reasons you disagree with me for? I really don't feel like reading though the however many pages of post's there are to find you're reasons. I apologize for the AUP law breaking I have not been on GT Planet in a long time. :)
 
UnKnOwN287
Yes very little of what I said might need more RAM but some does, I did not mean just RAM which is why I said and such, I merely used RAM as an example, and yes it was expected in GT5 but it wasn't maybe because there was already enough to the game as it is? i mean GT5 is a huge game.
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GT5 is a huge game, but its also one with many, many flaws and a totally inconsistent level of quality. To such a degree that had it not been a GT title a good chance exists that it would have been given a much harder time at launch.

PD could resolve a lot of the issues with GT5 in a new title without even needing to go to the PS4.


UnKnOwN287
and I meant to say better system= better potential for a game, the more the system has to offer the more you can do to the game, something that PD can take advantage of with more RAM, faster processor, better graphics card and all that other PS4 power.
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True, but by no means certain. After all PD could have done so much better with a more powerful system than they did with GT3 and GT4, yet they didn't really move the series along a great deal at all, despite having more power in the PS3 than they even had with the PS2.

UnKnOwN287
I was not aware he was the Senior Vice President all I knew is that someone from Sony said GT6 will come out on the PS3.
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Its in the very first post in this thread, now while I can understand not reading it all, I would have hoped that at least the opening post would have been read by yourself.


UnKnOwN287
May I ask what reasons you disagree with me for? I really don't feel like reading though the however many pages of post's there are to find you're reasons. I apologize for the AUP law breaking I have not been on GT Planet in a long time. :)
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Quite a few reasons, the main ones are however:

  • GT5 cost $60 million (at least) to develop, GT5 sales only just cover that in terms of reough revenue return. It makes sense to maximise that investment wth another title on the same platform (which woudl then be able to share that development cost)
  • The PS3 has 170 million potential buyers for a new GT title.
  • A GT title needs to shift at least 5 million units in its release month to match past sales, that would require (at a 20% attach rate) 25 million PS4s to be on the market.

In short Sony and PD can make a good return by throwing another GT title at the PS3, particularly given that the user base for a PS4 GT title will not exist for a good 12 - 24 months from the launch of the PS4.
 
Scaff
GT5 is a huge game, but its also one with many, many flaws and a totally inconsistent level of quality. To such a degree that had it not been a GT title a good chance exists that it would have been given a much harder time at launch.

PD could resolve a lot of the issues with GT5 in a new title without even needing to go to the PS4.



True, but by no means certain. After all PD could have done so much better with a more powerful system than they did with GT3 and GT4, yet they didn't really move the series along a great deal at all, despite having more power in the PS3 than they even had with the PS2.


Its in the very first post in this thread, now while I can understand not reading it all, I would have hoped that at least the opening post would have been read by yourself.



Quite a few reasons, the main ones are however:

  • GT5 cost $60 million (at least) to develop, GT5 sales only just cover that in terms of reough revenue return. It makes sense to maximise that investment wth another title on the same platform (which woudl then be able to share that development cost)
  • The PS3 has 170 million potential buyers for a new GT title.
  • A GT title needs to shift at least 5 million units in its release month to match past sales, that would require (at a 20% attach rate) 25 million PS4s to be on the market.

In short Sony and PD can make a good return by throwing another GT title at the PS3, particularly given that the user base for a PS4 GT title will not exist for a good 12 - 24 months from the launch of the PS4.
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Yes GT5 had many flaws, the main reason it sold was because it was the first PS3 GT title, and everyone was getting into, or already in the next gen system stage. Yes they could make GT6 the more complete GT5 without going over to PS4. That would most likely be the smartest decision, but my point was so many people wanted so much in GT5 and want so much in GT6 that maybe the PS3 doesn't have the power and support to put everything we want and they want onto a game for the PS3. yes GT3 and GT4 did good for the PS2 without waiting to go onto the next gen console but that would have been a very stupid decision on PD's part, GT4 was a top of the line PS2 game, it was one of the only games to support 1080i but it was good for the PS2, the game was already delayed as long as it was i wouldn't see much sense in PD delaying it even longer just to get a copy out onto the PS3. They waited for the PS3 to enter its life and for the potential buyers to go up untill they released a PS3 GT game, yes that being said it's only logical that they release it on the PS3 to let the PS4 get more potential buyers, but to make GT6 what we want with all our features might be to much for the PS3 to handle, im not getting my hopes up of GT6 being a revolutionary game in the GT series, its just going to be a more complete GT5, il be excited when we get livery editors, and body kits, a drag strip, and all that fun stuff. Im also pretty sure ive heard alot of speculation of the PS4's price bing anywhere from 299-399 which would make the PS4 quite possible to reach blockbuster sales, therefore having a quite large amount of potential buyers in the first year or two of PS4's life.

All in all I think the best thing they could do is make a finished GT5 getting rid of its flaws and querks and adding a little more to the game (Different cars, Tracks, Better load times, and a better menu; i found GT5's menu ugly, and horrible to navigate). And then taking GT6's finished quality's and putting everything we want in the next game (livery editor, track creator, car customization, track atmosphere, free roam, whatever we all want) and put it on a system that can play all of it with ease without making the load times ten years.
 
Scaff did you just double post right after letting a poster know about the AUP rules? LOL! Not having a go but that made me chuckle :)

However Could be my phone not updating the posts in order so....:P
 
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Scaff
  • The PS3 has 170 million potential buyers for a new GT title.
  • A GT title needs to shift at least 5 million units in its release month to match past sales, that would require (at a 20% attach rate) 25 million PS4s to be on the market.
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Uhh I hope you don't really think a GT6 for the PS3 would shift another 80-90 million PS3 units? Because Sony sold just about 80 million PS3's at date.

20% is extremely optimistic, considering that they only sold 9 million GT5 copys on an existing base of about 80 million PS3s. Let's say they'll soon hit the 10 million mark with GT5, but even then...
 
tillbot8
Scaff did you just double post right after letting a poster know about the AUP rules? LOL! Not having a go but that made me chuckle :)

However Could be my phone not updating the posts in order so....:P
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Haha he did. Wow, drowning in the irony. :lol:

Unless some other posts were deleted or my phone is acting up as well..
 
I think GT6 will be atleast pretty good no matter which console it's released on, I won't be too disappointed if I don't need a new console to play it, or if on a new console it has extremely better graphics. Other people have mentioned also running at 720p would increase their room to work with the PS3, might not be too bad an idea.

But aside from where people want it, think about this as logically as possible, then conclude which is more likely, and even then, it's only iyo.

A. Release on a old, soon to be replaced, console, with the advantages of using the existing game engine.

B. Release on a new, soon to be released, console, with the advantages of using a new game engine.

Isn't that what it boils down to? New Console = New Engine, regardless of GT6, we know for a fact that GT7 'won't' be released on PS3, it's all but impossible, and considering the time frames, if PD get their act together its a 95% chance it'll be released on PS4, with a new engine. EDIT: Not the GT5 engine at any rate, GT6 could be the same potentially.

So the question to ask ourselves, do they want to put in the hard yards and make a new engine now, or later? Even, could a new engine work on both systems? That might be the best scenario, make one that works on the PS4, then cram it into the PS3, so when it comes time for GT7, the programming is easier and the graphics improve based on existing models, whilst still benefiting from faster cash from a PS3 release.
 
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Scaff made a slight error in the PS3 sales. I think he meant over 70 million, not 170 million. But I think the most obvious answer is the "right" one.

1. 77 million total PS3's sold up until January 2013.

2. The PS3 is reported to be supported until at least 2015.

3. Highly significant titles still to be released.

4. "The GT6 slip" by a Sony executive.

5. GT5's operating system isn't bad; the game is just bad. Bad decisions all across the board.

6. No body owns a PS4. Who are they selling to?

7. Drive Club.
 
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If Jordan is happy I am happy as well. This wednesday could be a big day for GTeers!

Also the apocalypse begins for the servers if this happens...lol I still remember the old good days...well actually months before GT5´s release and official announcements.
 
Foxiol
If Jordan is happy I am happy as well. This wednesday could be a big day for GTeers!

Also the apocalypse begins for the servers if this happens...lol I still remember the old good days...well actually months before GT5´s release and official announcements.
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What happens on Wednesday?
 
Yep, when Wednesday comes, it's gonna get heavy.

BRING IT ON!!!! III NEEEEDDD IIITTTT!!!!

and with that aside, anyone else notice that the OCD hasn't been updated in a while? that might be an indication of something epic
 
Well, Jordan is "feeling good".... Amar states "no one will disappointed"... GT6 just might make this place explode with happiness.
 

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