Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3
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GT6 on PS3 steals 0 hype from Xbox Infinity and Forza 5 for me personally
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I'm just going to settle on one point for now because I'm dead tired and need to slink off to bed.
Many of us have old game systems and their libraries because those old games were unique and have their own charm. But let's be real here. I love my Dreamcast, but I don't want to see a new racer for it, or my PS2. I still have a seven year old Pentium 4 PC, but I'm buying zero games for it. When on rare occasions I do buy a new PC game, I need something remotely current to run it.
The PS3 has clearly reached its technological peak, as has the 360. In fact, when Turn 10 wanted to take the graphics of Forza 4 to the next level, they hired a Hollywood graphics studio at who knows what cost to do it. Neither the 360 or PS3 has enough ram for all the auto sounds for all the cars, at least incredibly realistic ones, so Forza 4 has fewer engine sounds for other cars, and GT5 has "vacuum cleaner" sounds for theirs.
There was no Movie Maker for GT5 because of the ram limitations of PS3, and for Forza 4, you can produce a whopping half-minute long video clip. Whatever games are produced for PS3 are going to have to fit into that cramped space that developers found a little tight to start with back in 2005 or so when they began making games for it. One poster on the PS Universe forums quoted a rather lengthy letter back in 2006 from a developer who stated that they would be approaching PS3 like a much bigger and more powerful PS2, and would still have to be doing a lot of data shuffling of textures and audio in and out of ram, because HD content demanded a lot of resources. It's even more true late in the PS3's life, because gamers want better games this year than they had last year.
And another thing I've been forgetting to mention. Even on PS3, don't tell me that Gran Turismo 6 isn't going to cast a huge cloud over the racing game market. A lot of features we want will either be gimped on PS3 or just won't work, like the Movie Maker. Do you want 24 car fields or more for multiclass racing? Night racing with vivid and realistic lighting, and most cars casting headlights across the countryside? That won't happen on PS3, especially the lighting which is extremely processor taxing. But even a more basic GT6 on PS3 is going to grab market attention like cheap beer at a beach. Between it and P Cars, I've already lost interest in Drive Club, and P CARS doesn't excite me like Gran Turismo does. Does the latest word of what SMS has done light up the net with worldwide chatter? Or the slightest rumor of some game made by a bunch called Polyphony?
And on the PS4 base, this is an irrelevant point. Even Prologue caused a hefty bump in PS3 sales. If GT6 is made for PS4, don't tell me that SONY will have had their plants working overtime to keep up with demand, because PS4 sales will jump drastically when Gran Turismo is made for it, whenever that is.
I'll say it again. Don't assume anything with GT6. This is a weird year, and anything could happen. Hopefully Wednesday will give us something to celebrate, no matter what Playstation it's made for. Amar seems pretty confident we'll all be happy, so I'm feeling pretty good about whatever Kaz, both Kaz's, drop in our laps.
Generally speaking, a better system means a better game, because the potential for cool features is much greater.
Many of us have old game systems and their libraries because those old games were unique and have their own charm. But let's be real here. I love my Dreamcast, but I don't want to see a new racer for it, or my PS2. I still have a seven year old Pentium 4 PC, but I'm buying zero games for it. When on rare occasions I do buy a new PC game, I need something remotely current to run it.
The PS3 has clearly reached its technological peak, as has the 360. In fact, when Turn 10 wanted to take the graphics of Forza 4 to the next level, they hired a Hollywood graphics studio at who knows what cost to do it. Neither the 360 or PS3 has enough ram for all the auto sounds for all the cars, at least incredibly realistic ones, so Forza 4 has fewer engine sounds for other cars, and GT5 has "vacuum cleaner" sounds for theirs.
There was no Movie Maker for GT5 because of the ram limitations of PS3, and for Forza 4, you can produce a whopping half-minute long video clip. Whatever games are produced for PS3 are going to have to fit into that cramped space that developers found a little tight to start with back in 2005 or so when they began making games for it. One poster on the PS Universe forums quoted a rather lengthy letter back in 2006 from a developer who stated that they would be approaching PS3 like a much bigger and more powerful PS2, and would still have to be doing a lot of data shuffling of textures and audio in and out of ram, because HD content demanded a lot of resources. It's even more true late in the PS3's life, because gamers want better games this year than they had last year.
And another thing I've been forgetting to mention. Even on PS3, don't tell me that Gran Turismo 6 isn't going to cast a huge cloud over the racing game market. A lot of features we want will either be gimped on PS3 or just won't work, like the Movie Maker. Do you want 24 car fields or more for multiclass racing? Night racing with vivid and realistic lighting, and most cars casting headlights across the countryside? That won't happen on PS3, especially the lighting which is extremely processor taxing. But even a more basic GT6 on PS3 is going to grab market attention like cheap beer at a beach. Between it and P Cars, I've already lost interest in Drive Club, and P CARS doesn't excite me like Gran Turismo does. Does the latest word of what SMS has done light up the net with worldwide chatter? Or the slightest rumor of some game made by a bunch called Polyphony?
And on the PS4 base, this is an irrelevant point. Even Prologue caused a hefty bump in PS3 sales. If GT6 is made for PS4, don't tell me that SONY will have had their plants working overtime to keep up with demand, because PS4 sales will jump drastically when Gran Turismo is made for it, whenever that is.
I'll say it again. Don't assume anything with GT6. This is a weird year, and anything could happen. Hopefully Wednesday will give us something to celebrate, no matter what Playstation it's made for. Amar seems pretty confident we'll all be happy, so I'm feeling pretty good about whatever Kaz, both Kaz's, drop in our laps.
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Can someone explain to me whats happening in 2 days?
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SONY is making a big announcement about a new game, and it seems that game could be most likely GT6:tup:
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I remember the forums going through similar phases during GT5's hype era.
Poise. Poise is key.
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Well.. I hope you guys don't get your hopes up too high.There are many new IP's being announced by Sony. I think they may save this for E3. I may be wrong.
If it's not GT6 then I hope it's The Last Guardian.
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I remember the forums going through similar phases during GT5's hype era.
Poise. Poise is key.
Relevant post is relevant. I feel like I'm in the same year leading up to GT5 (well before the first delay)
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Oh, I am 100% positive that Turn 10 and SMS are watching these events like a hawk.
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For the sake of the franchise, and for the prosperity of the PS4, it must be a PS4 release title, or else it will get ripped apart by Forza 5.
I'd wait another year or more to get a world class, massively upgraded game on the latest console, than a slightly improved one on a console that will soon be outdated, then wait several more years again for GT7, if putting it on the PS3 doesn't already destroy it completely.
Just like a user on here has said already, GT5 may end up being PES, and Forza will become FIFA if Sony does something stupid.
I'd wait another year or more to get a world class, massively upgraded game on the latest console, than a slightly improved one on a console that will soon be outdated, then wait several more years again for GT7, if putting it on the PS3 doesn't already destroy it completely.
Just like a user on here has said already, GT5 may end up being PES, and Forza will become FIFA if Sony does something stupid.
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You guys are sure this SONY event is gonna be on Wednesday?
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Post doesn't make any sense. A gt game for ps4 will need another 2 years or so to be made if they want a nice number of cars, tracks and ps4 graphics. For the sake of making money this year and the next pd and sony do want gt6 on ps3.
Also I know everybody wants to bandwagon the ps4, but there are people who buy a system when theres actually a number of good games on it to make it worth owning. This will take a year or 2, and in that meanwhile while it's nice to own a new console it won't be much fun afterwards when there's no good games to play on it.
Ps3 came out 2006, it was only worth owning with circa 2009 when there were at least some good games on it.
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Yes generally speaking a new system provides a better potential for better games, I didn't say anything that would suggest otherwise. What I said was that a better system doesn't equal better games, because its not an automatic thing at all. Its perfectly possible for any sequel on the PS4 to actually be inferior as a title to its fore-bearers on an older machine.
Bringing the Dreamcast or PS2 into this is also utterly irrelevant, as both ceased hardware production a while ago, the PS3 is still very much a valid product and software for it (particularly a AAA title) will still sell for the next few years in solid quantities.
And yet you have acknowledged in the past that PD could make a few changes to the GT5 package, such as drop the res to 720 to free up RAM for graphical tweaks, tidy up the engine (which is still more than possible), up the number of premium cars, add in new tracks and sort out the UI.
Even those changes would be enough for a GT title that will shift more than enough units, and certainly shift more units at the end of this year than a GT title on the PS4 at that time is going to shift.
Fix the majority of the issues in GT5 and tweak the physics engine and I don't see it casting a huge cloud over anything. Did GT2 cast a huge cloud? Did GT4 cast a huge cloud?
GT5P caused a bump in PS3 sales at a point when Sony and its contractors were able to meet that demand, even with the plants working overtime the yield rates on new machines are always low and as such its not going to help Sony sell PS4's.
The simple fact is that if Sony need a GT title at launch to sell the PS4 then they have significant issues with the attractiveness of the package to the gaming community at large. Sony will look (if they have any sense) at a GT title launch at a point when early adopters have bought in (and they are going to buy regardless of a GT title) and production is up to full capacity and yields, PD and Sony will be looking for a large enough user base to make a GT launch a worthwhile exercise, which means enough PS4's to see first month sales in the region of 4-5 million (which means a lot more than 4 -5 million PS4's in users hands).
That's unlikely to happen in the first year, as such PD could launch a PS3 GT title late this year and then a PS4 GT title around 12-24 months from now, a move that would make financial sense in every way.
I've not assumed anything, I've actually approached this from a logical financial sense, looking at it from the view of a company and its offshoot that are looking to maximise the investments they have already made and ensure the sales opportunities for the hardware and software they are looking to release.
PD may well announce a GT title for launch with the PS4, if they do I believe that they will a) fail to get it out in time for launch (as they have a track record of doing so - something I personally do not now believe they have ever actually really aimed for) or b) if by some miracle they manage to get it out for launch with the PS4 it will be the worst GT launch title in terms of sales ever.
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If GT6 is on PS3 , it would seem odd to me to launch it near the end of the year with PS4 releasing .
Maybe we dont have long to wait .
Maybe we dont have long to wait .
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When they're taking their information from false sources (Like the release date and cover art from NewEgg) I wouldnt exactly trust that...
Now, that, I trust.
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I love your posts Amar. Reason being, because it makes me feel like you are watching this thread for any misleading info, and as you have, posting to tell us the truth.
And for that I thank you.
And for that I thank you.
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Probably leaks ?
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I'm afraid you're wrong, a gaming web here in Slovakia says it's gonna be announced too and it's not just some web... They have been at PD, talking to Kaz in 2009 and 2011, making interviews with him... So I am pretty sure they got the right informations...
However, we'll see tomorrow
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I would love to be wrong, I can tell you that - the wait has been too long
If some information gets out tomorrow it will be great and it is plausible, I concur - but as I know, the official reveal will not happen tomorrow. Maybe announcement of the announcement.
I am 99,99% certain about it.
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Lord ProtectorI'm afraid you're wrong, a gaming web here in Slovakia says it's gonna be announced too and it's not just some web... They have been at PD, talking to Kaz in 2009 and 2011, making interviews with him... So I am pretty sure they got the right informations...
However, we'll see tomorrow
Amar knows more than anyone
I doubt he's wrong.
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