Yeah, people will buy it regardless how good or bad the game is.
But like I said, it just creates confusion. I sold my PS4 to save up for PS5 and now I'm starting to regret doing that. If only I knew the game would come out on last gen from the start I'd be happy playing GT7 on PS4. Sure the graphics won't be as good but it's not a big deal to me as long as it doesn't have performance issues like the GT games on PS3.
I would only expect small incremental changes to any of that, something more akin to GT5>GT6 rather than GT6>GTS. Id imagine with it being a new game there going to want to pump up the same things they always focus on first, which is likely some visual fidelity. Then if they up things like cars on track than I can see other things being put on the back burner as you go down the list. I wouldn't expect major improvements as I don't think they'll have the capacity to do that. If they cant get feature parity and have to water both down, then I'm hoping the content makes up for it at least.
I can understand if people have lost hype due to impatience over no news, but the drama over a potential PS4 version is getting out of hand. Keep in mind that PD are some of the best Playstation hardware wizards out there, and if GT7 can achieve more on PS4 than GT Sport has, then the enhanced PS5 version will still be awesome. Maybe not up to its fullest potential, but we also have to remember that these are difficult times and Sony is a business that needs to satisfy investors and not just racing game aficionados.
I mean its perfectly reasonable that people would be upset about such news, especially if they bought a console expecting it to be exclusive based of them literally saying so. I don't think buying a console for one game is ever a good move, but that doesn't take away from that point. While PD may be good at their craft, keep in mind that they already made compromises to hit their target with GTS, so it's not necessarily unfounded to think that there really wont be major improvements - not without more of those compromises at least. People were just looking forward to play a fully next gen game on their next gen console. Unfortunately, like you note, money talks.
It is reasonable to be upset, but it’s also getting blown out of hand. I feel like it’s starting to distract from the overall idea that GT7 is still worth waiting for. So far people can only guess what impact it will actually have on the PS5 version, so I’d say save the conclusions until more info is available. I mean, PD’s ambitions for the PS5 version were never known in the first place.
I don't get that - If it's something reasonable how is it being blown out of hand? Some people just had a certain idea how the game was going to turn out based off the information given initially, that got back tracked on. I think the response is more then reasonable given they let people expect as much in the first place. Especially considering the availability of the console, and early adopters trying to avoid all the stockage issues, only for Sony to backtrack on what they originally had said. People wanted a next gen game, and if a next gen game isn't coming, what conclusions is there to wait for? It seems like most people aren't even saying the game is going to be outright bad, more so that it just wont be able to accomplish the same goals whatsoever.
The disappointments jump to conclusions, and it overshadows the argument of giving GT7 benefit of the doubt until more about it is known. Feel free to disagree.
I’ll always argue to hold off buying a console before you know the sole game you want is definitely coming. For example, it being listed for PS5 says nothing about whether better PS5 hardware (potential PS5 Pro) might be close to release once the game actually comes out.
It's an easy conclusion to come to though, because they took things out of GTS in order to make it work in the first place. If the PS4 couldn't handle it before, then it's actually not too farfetched to assume that it wont handle it now, at least not with out compromises. PD isn't known for compromising too much, though this past generation in general have shown that now they're willing to go that route to make sure the game runs at as close to a 60FPS as possible, and I doubt they're going to deviate from that. It's perfectly fine to have a pessimistic view about the outcome of the next game, especially when you consider these things. I've been disagreeing since your initial post, but thanks for allowing me to. There's no benefit of the doubt to be given at this point, and there really is no requirement for people to do so. What we know is things didn't work on the PS4 before, and it's likely to not in the future, so until it's stated otherwise, it's a perfectly ok viewpoint to have. Considering I missed GTS, this game will be fresh for me so it doesn't bother me much either way, and it actually helps since I don't have to try to get a PS5 as soon as possible.
So will I, really. The thing is, the sole game some people want was already definitely known to be coming(delay withstanding), and if you take a look at the image above, that seems concrete enough for them to believe what they said is true. It just happened to be not true. A PS5 pro is irrelevant to this discussion as that's still just a next generation PS5, they're essentially the same console generation so that changes much of nothing.
Except they’ve probably learned more tricks to maximize PS4 now compared to back in the earlier days during GTS development. Maybe not by much though.
Agreed, but at the same time the fact there will be a better PS5 version alongside might inspire them to take a more lenient approach to making it perform on PS4.
I didn’t try to argue otherwise. All I’m saying is we should be careful not to get too distracted by disappointment until we know more about it. I hope you realize I’m trying to inspire a bit of optimism rather than blaming anyone for being upset.
LOL. My point was there’s no reason to start a deep debate over seeing this situation in different ways.
Again, I never said it wasn’t ok.
I had forgotten this. The disappointments are completely valid, but let’s wait and see how the game turns out on PS5. Not everything is about technical bells and whistles anyway. I recently started playing FH4 on Xbox Series X, and in one way I enjoyed it more on Xbox One, but only in one way.
You can say that but I’d still not recommend buying a PS5 for GT7 until much more is known about it. Not to say PS5 owners have themselves to blame, but there’s just nothing to gain by adopting the system so early if GT7 is all you care(d) for.
Right.
Believe it or not, GT7 will sell a lot on the PS4. There are millions of people out there who can't wait for this game yet they can't afford a PS5, just like me. I think it's no surprise to anyone that GT7 it's going to be essentially GT Sport + the "proper GT" factor. The PS4 needed that proper GT game.
Difficult times for who? The creators of the fastest selling console in the history of the videogame industry, a horn they put out press releases to toot every few months?
That becomes increasingly unlikely the further it gets away from the PS5's launch. If GT7 comes out at the end of next year like it certainly looks to be at this point, the PS5 version will decimate any comparative sales a PS4 version will receive.
Sony isn't going to port GT7 to the Master System.
But look at the sales numbers for Miles Morales, for instance. It sold much more on the PS5. And I daresay that is a pretty damn big title.
There wasn't really any "earlier ps4 days" of GTS development. GTS development spanned almost the entire generation and came out near the end of the PS4 console gen; Kaz even stated that since they started late it gave them time to research the PS4 hardware and push it as much as they can. The PS4 was very easy to develop for compared to the PS3, meaning it was easier to push its limits and get the most out of it quicker. People thinking the PS4 is going to magically crank out dynamic time progression with dynamic weather and notably improved simulations at 60fps are in for a disappointment.
I'd say it mostly has something to do with the insane price of imported goods. People in the US can barely get their hands on one let alone a country who is still trying to get a hold of the PS4..
its normal, for example similar late crossgen metal gear solid 5
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ps4 72% sales, ps3 3% and in late 2015 ps4 saled around 20 milions and ps3 85 milions
This is all with those systems sold at normal supply? That's cool for MGS. How does it equate with GT games?its normal, for example similar late crossgen metal gear solid 5
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ps4 72% sales, ps3 3% and in late 2015 ps4 saled around 20 milions and ps3 85 milions
