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Gran Turismo 7 Custom Race thread
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I’m going to watch the ucd and try and get 10 of each. Hopefully I don’t miss them when they come around.
- 51,305
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
Added a few more Kenmeris and another R5 to my replica JCCA TS Cup. Testing AI with these cars, at one of the worse locations for AI. In GT Sport, the AI slam on the brakes at Reid and Sulman parks.
In GT7, PD tuned the programming for light taps of the brakes. One of the AI does one tap and another applies the brakes twice. I rode the bumpers of both cars to gadge how much they slowed us down. Everywhere else, the AI handle well. Especially the yellow 240ZG at the end. It didn't overshoot the Chase, as the three previous cars did. Probably to keep it tight to the finish line.
Also noticed the blue Kenmeri redlined it in 4th gear, before T2 to stay ahead of me.
Cars range from PP 615-588, RH, Boost Weak.
In GT7, PD tuned the programming for light taps of the brakes. One of the AI does one tap and another applies the brakes twice. I rode the bumpers of both cars to gadge how much they slowed us down. Everywhere else, the AI handle well. Especially the yellow 240ZG at the end. It didn't overshoot the Chase, as the three previous cars did. Probably to keep it tight to the finish line.
Also noticed the blue Kenmeri redlined it in 4th gear, before T2 to stay ahead of me.
Cars range from PP 615-588, RH, Boost Weak.
- 1,396
- Tennessee
- tnfedexman
Set up a reverse Maggorie full course Ferrari event. Very fun, just don’t pay squat. I like being able to save lineups and use them on other tracks. Working through the full list of tracks for seldom used/not used variants.
I did it as I got the 20 cars M3 89 with different livery and my little championship.. good but there are things to know...
cars cannot be performance differentiated a lot... only RH or CS tyres (except your own car) and BOP apply to so you cannot really have individual PP on each.
so either you create reverse grid order on each new race start or you risk a finish line carbon copy replica each time..
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- Crowborough
- Clemeson
For me, the way the AI races makes no sense, how can I beat second, in a 20 car field, by +20seconds and have my fastest lap around 4 seconds slower than what the Fastest Lap of the race set by the AI?
I believe this is due to what people call rubberbanding? Am I correct?
Anyway, it makes races way less enjoyable to know that you are wining against an opponent that could obliterate you in a jiffy😒
I believe this is due to what people call rubberbanding? Am I correct?
Anyway, it makes races way less enjoyable to know that you are wining against an opponent that could obliterate you in a jiffy😒
- 1,322
- United Kingdom
- rodgers1
Been struggling lately to find the motivation to play GT7. Only time Ive played the game is when my friends are on online and we do online lobbies which is maybe once or twice a week. Other than that the rest of the game just not inspired me.
I started my own custom Touring Car Championship back in August but stopped after two rounds as GTWS at the time took more priority. Anyway decided to jump back in and do another round and I had an absolute blast tonight at Red Bull Ring. I do 3 races each round with 20 cars all with similar performance, quali grid that i do myself, then a full reverse grid and then a random grid makes sure the results are always random, random weather as well (had rain in the second race) with each race starting at sunrise, afternoon and sunset just made the racing tonight amazing and some much fun! Yeah the AI are annoying in some corners but getting the PP, BHP and other setting correct can make the AI really competitive.
Video from my first race and the opening lap. Game just looks amazing with the sunrise and the car headlights shining, along with the car sound.
I started my own custom Touring Car Championship back in August but stopped after two rounds as GTWS at the time took more priority. Anyway decided to jump back in and do another round and I had an absolute blast tonight at Red Bull Ring. I do 3 races each round with 20 cars all with similar performance, quali grid that i do myself, then a full reverse grid and then a random grid makes sure the results are always random, random weather as well (had rain in the second race) with each race starting at sunrise, afternoon and sunset just made the racing tonight amazing and some much fun! Yeah the AI are annoying in some corners but getting the PP, BHP and other setting correct can make the AI really competitive.
Video from my first race and the opening lap. Game just looks amazing with the sunrise and the car headlights shining, along with the car sound.
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- London, ON
- A_Mindful_Place
- 18
Has anyone made a list of tracks where the AI is ‘good’ in road cars?
I know they are terrible at:
1. High speed ring
2. Deep forest
I was testing these with a field of 20 Mitsubishi GTO’s and lapping the AI within a few laps even with an air restrictor.
It would be good to know what tracks are better than others
It’s funny that Forza 7 had the same sorta of issues with certain tracks with some dreadful apex braking
I know they are terrible at:
1. High speed ring
2. Deep forest
I was testing these with a field of 20 Mitsubishi GTO’s and lapping the AI within a few laps even with an air restrictor.
It would be good to know what tracks are better than others
It’s funny that Forza 7 had the same sorta of issues with certain tracks with some dreadful apex braking
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- 5,588
- Druids Bend
- Z4E_Midnight85
So last night I finally started the 15-race all-Honda series I've been working on liveries for a while for. A while back I thought it would be fun to take the Honda road cars (Civic Type R all gens, Civic Touring Car, Integra Type R's and the S2000) and give them JTCC/JGTC liveries as accurately remade as I could make them - so it's taken me a while to get all the liveries done! I still need to re-do the Kool Accord '97 livery which I've got on a '98 Integra, but as I managed to finish the last remaining livery last night (the Gather's Civic Ferio on the Civic Type R FK2) I thought I'd make a start on the race series.
My race format is three races at each circuit, five circuits through the "season", with points allocated as per finishing position - lowest points wins. And, aside from Race 1 where the grid is set by race number, each race is either a reverse grid of the previous or set by championship standings. All the cars are set to 228-230hp, and all at 1250kg. There's a mix of turbo and NA cars across the grid, a mix of widebody and standard body, and a really nice range of liveries across the field!
My race calendar is Suzuka, Autopolis, Fuji, Tsukuba, Kyoto Yamagiwa.
So last night was Suzuka, and driving the #18 Mugen X Dome Civic Type R (NSX '02 JGTC) I started on the 4th row. I bogged down massively on the start, and because I've set my power way down at 185hp to make it more of a challenge, I was in 14th by the time I reached the first corner. It was a relatively simple task working my way back through the field up to the lead cars by the end of lap 2, but once I finally got into the top 3 - battling against the Kool Integra Type R '98 of N. Hattori and the PIAA SN Civic Type R '20 of T. Kurosawa (another '97 Accord livery) - the AI turned up the heat and actually started fighting back! It wasn't too much of a challenge though, as I got past Kurosawa on lap four and took the win by about 3s.
Race two was a reverse grid, so I start back in 20th, and I'm trying to keep the racing as clean as possible (no leaning on other cars in the corners, not out-breaking them while chasing them into a corner, etc.) so I had some fun battles working my way through the pack for the first couple of laps. Once through the main pack though, I just pushed hard with empty track in front to catch up with the Mobil 1 S2000 of J. Matsuda (NSX JGTC '01), Inter TEC Civic Type R '15 of A. Hanhe (Civic Ferio '94) and the widebody Kunimitsu Kaneko Civic Type R '20 of A.Iida (NSX GT1 from Le Mans), where the real battles started. I managed to pull off an awesome bit of car placement on the final chicane on lap 4, sneaking through to win by 1s ahead of Iida.
Race three was another reverse grid, but this time a light rain had turned up, so a little more caution was needed. The first lap again was a load of fun, especially through the esses, and I had to push pretty hard to catch Kurosawa in the PIAA SN Civic Type R '20 who was battling with T. Ichisima in the Spoon Civic Touring Car (Spoon Civic EA '85), oddly very underpowered in this series! I tucked in behind them for two laps and we eventually dispatched Ichisima and fought for the win. I had to settle for 2nd in the end, less than 0.5s off the bumper of Kurosawa.
After all that, I'm miles ahead in the series (so I'm thinking I'll drop the power even lower for Autopolis), taking two wins and three fastest laps out of three races... I saved the replays in Race 1 and Race 2, but forgot to save the replay in Race 3 ( 🤦♂️ ) so I'll try share them when I'm on GT next.
If only the paid properly. I think I won 13k, 14k, and 9k...
My race format is three races at each circuit, five circuits through the "season", with points allocated as per finishing position - lowest points wins. And, aside from Race 1 where the grid is set by race number, each race is either a reverse grid of the previous or set by championship standings. All the cars are set to 228-230hp, and all at 1250kg. There's a mix of turbo and NA cars across the grid, a mix of widebody and standard body, and a really nice range of liveries across the field!
My race calendar is Suzuka, Autopolis, Fuji, Tsukuba, Kyoto Yamagiwa.
So last night was Suzuka, and driving the #18 Mugen X Dome Civic Type R (NSX '02 JGTC) I started on the 4th row. I bogged down massively on the start, and because I've set my power way down at 185hp to make it more of a challenge, I was in 14th by the time I reached the first corner. It was a relatively simple task working my way back through the field up to the lead cars by the end of lap 2, but once I finally got into the top 3 - battling against the Kool Integra Type R '98 of N. Hattori and the PIAA SN Civic Type R '20 of T. Kurosawa (another '97 Accord livery) - the AI turned up the heat and actually started fighting back! It wasn't too much of a challenge though, as I got past Kurosawa on lap four and took the win by about 3s.
Race two was a reverse grid, so I start back in 20th, and I'm trying to keep the racing as clean as possible (no leaning on other cars in the corners, not out-breaking them while chasing them into a corner, etc.) so I had some fun battles working my way through the pack for the first couple of laps. Once through the main pack though, I just pushed hard with empty track in front to catch up with the Mobil 1 S2000 of J. Matsuda (NSX JGTC '01), Inter TEC Civic Type R '15 of A. Hanhe (Civic Ferio '94) and the widebody Kunimitsu Kaneko Civic Type R '20 of A.Iida (NSX GT1 from Le Mans), where the real battles started. I managed to pull off an awesome bit of car placement on the final chicane on lap 4, sneaking through to win by 1s ahead of Iida.
Race three was another reverse grid, but this time a light rain had turned up, so a little more caution was needed. The first lap again was a load of fun, especially through the esses, and I had to push pretty hard to catch Kurosawa in the PIAA SN Civic Type R '20 who was battling with T. Ichisima in the Spoon Civic Touring Car (Spoon Civic EA '85), oddly very underpowered in this series! I tucked in behind them for two laps and we eventually dispatched Ichisima and fought for the win. I had to settle for 2nd in the end, less than 0.5s off the bumper of Kurosawa.
After all that, I'm miles ahead in the series (so I'm thinking I'll drop the power even lower for Autopolis), taking two wins and three fastest laps out of three races... I saved the replays in Race 1 and Race 2, but forgot to save the replay in Race 3 ( 🤦♂️ ) so I'll try share them when I'm on GT next.
If only the paid properly. I think I won 13k, 14k, and 9k...
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- Druids Bend
- Z4E_Midnight85
I didn't realise they had those power/weight regs. I've got mine at 230/1250, but that's because it was the easiest set of figures I could use across the full field. It's good fun racing them though. It's slow enough for tight racing in a pack through twisty stuff but fast enough to have some fun when the field thins out.
- 51,305
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
For sure. Some of the tightest battle packs I’m having.
As far as regulations, I search the car I’m looking to replicate and Ill get a few listings. Say, for the Primeras I’m replicating:
“From 1994, the All Japan Touring Car Championship (JTCC) was contested in the New Touring Car category, which replaced Group A.
This category, which was later renamed "Super Touring", was a 4-door sedan event that was popular in Europe at the time. Regulations stipulated that only 2,000c engines (swapping was possible with other engines from the same manufacturer) with a maximum speed of 8,500rpm could be used. Minimum curb weight was 950kg (FF) and 1,050kg (FR). With these conditions applying to all entries, the races were closely fought, and this is what made them so exciting. One major feature was that fact that races were held twice a day.”
Power and wheels sizes:
| Nissan Primera GT | Janspeed Engineering | BTCC |
| Engine | Nissan SR20DE 4 in line | 
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| Bore and stroke | ||
| Size | 1998 cc | |
| Cams | 2 OHC | |
| Valves per cilinder | 4 | |
| Power | 274 HP | |
| Details | ||
| Transmission | Hollinger 6-speed | |
| Weight | 950 kg | |
| Brakes f/r | disc / disc | |
| Wheels f/r | 8 x 18 / 8 x 180 | |
| Tires | Yokohama |
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- Druids Bend
- Z4E_Midnight85
Awesome stuff! I wish we had the old Primera in the game... 👎 And the Accord!For sure. Some of the tightest battle packs I’m having.
As far as regulations, I search the car I’m looking to replicate and Ill get a few listings. Say, for the Primeras I’m replicating:
“From 1994, the All Japan Touring Car Championship (JTCC) was contested in the New Touring Car category, which replaced Group A.
This category, which was later renamed "Super Touring", was a 4-door sedan event that was popular in Europe at the time. Regulations stipulated that only 2,000c engines (swapping was possible with other engines from the same manufacturer) with a maximum speed of 8,500rpm could be used. Minimum curb weight was 950kg (FF) and 1,050kg (FR). With these conditions applying to all entries, the races were closely fought, and this is what made them so exciting. One major feature was that fact that races were held twice a day.”
Power and wheels sizes:
Nissan Primera GT Janspeed Engineering Engine Nissan SR20DE 4 in line Bore and stroke Size 1998 cc Cams 2 OHC Valves per cilinder 4 Power 274 HP Details Transmission Hollinger 6-speed Weight 950 kg Brakes f/r disc / disc Wheels f/r 8 x 18 / 8 x 180 Tires Yokohama
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- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
Theres an EG6 in that datamine. If it comes, that’d be a start.
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- Brazil
My GT "GT" Series is ready. The idea is to only use the in-game fantasy brands and create a championship around that. No real GT3 cars allowed! At the best "GT spirit", only fictional Gr.3 cars will take part in this. Well, there's a real counterpart of the Atenza Gr.3, but the other option was the Citroen GT and that car is way to hard to create any liveries! 
Grid is 20 cars, 2 for each team and they will be racing around real and fantasy circuits.
edit: since it's 10 cars for each team, the idea was to make liveries that are plain and simple because it's faster than make a detailed livery for every car
edit2: it's allowed to edit after so many months? I changed the cars a little bit a couple weeks ago. Some of them remain the same (like the Suzuki VGT), others like the Lancer Evo got new decals here and there
Grid is 20 cars, 2 for each team and they will be racing around real and fantasy circuits.
edit2: it's allowed to edit after so many months?
I changed the cars a little bit a couple weeks ago. Some of them remain the same (like the Suzuki VGT), others like the Lancer Evo got new decals here and there
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- 51,305
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
Welp, dusted off my RX-8 Cup cars and tested The tyre compounds again. Just to amuse myself. Bought a set of SS for one AI and my car. AI still not using the tyres I assigned in that car’s Settings. The real race series use semi-slicks. For once, I’d like to use SS compounds, but I’m going full RH, as per my normal play. 
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- The Gem State
- GTvsForza
- GTvsForza
I'm currently working on copying all events from Sport's GT League, complete with exact time of day, weather conditions and everything else.
docs.google.com
Not everything is in yet, I just started this. I will be updating it when I get the time.
GT Sport GT League Races
BEGINNER LEAGUE Sunday Cup [N400, 12/12] Northern Isle Speedway - 6 Laps (10:30, Clear) Suzuka East - 3 Laps (14:30, Fine Weather) Dragon Trail Seaside - 2 Laps (10:00, Clear) Alsace Village Reverse - 2 Laps (21:00, Clear) Nurburgring GP - 2 Laps (17:00, Clear) Autodrome Lago Maggiore Center...
Not everything is in yet, I just started this. I will be updating it when I get the time.
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- United States
Ran two 10-lappers at Monza using a 15 car grid, mostly Group C cars. I threw in a Tomahawk and the MP4/4.
For the first race, I used my 787B at 800pp. I had the Tomahawk pass me on the last lap and I finished second. For the second race, I bumped the 787B to 900pp. That made it a bit too easy.
I‘m really liking the Custom races. I’ll refine them as I go along.
For the first race, I used my 787B at 800pp. I had the Tomahawk pass me on the last lap and I finished second. For the second race, I bumped the 787B to 900pp. That made it a bit too easy.
I‘m really liking the Custom races. I’ll refine them as I go along.
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- They/Them
- Autumnal_Glow
- AutumnalGlow
I find that nearly every time I set up a custom race, I either sit at the front and get bored lapping alone, or 1-3 cars at the front take off and are never seen again until the checkered flag appears next to their name a minute before anyone else's.
I set up a Gr.4 race, forget the track, with BOP on and boost set to weak, Professional difficulty. Somehow the lead two AI cars finished more than 40 seconds ahead of everyone else. Those two were close, the rest of the AI cars were decently close for an hour of racing, but there was a huge gap between those leading two and the rest of the cars. Nobody needed to pit. And I do expect some spread after an hour, of course. But this just feels like two of the cars cheated and left the rest behind. The real race was for third and below.
I just don't understand how to keep things relatively balanced without picking the cars myself. Even with the game's settings that are designed to keep the racing closer, I run into very unbalanced cars and/or AI.
I set up a Gr.4 race, forget the track, with BOP on and boost set to weak, Professional difficulty. Somehow the lead two AI cars finished more than 40 seconds ahead of everyone else. Those two were close, the rest of the AI cars were decently close for an hour of racing, but there was a huge gap between those leading two and the rest of the cars. Nobody needed to pit. And I do expect some spread after an hour, of course. But this just feels like two of the cars cheated and left the rest behind. The real race was for third and below.
I just don't understand how to keep things relatively balanced without picking the cars myself. Even with the game's settings that are designed to keep the racing closer, I run into very unbalanced cars and/or AI.
- 51,305
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
Gotta be quicker.
Lots of things change for me in a few days. I converted cars back to stock. I’m trying something different.For the cars in the video, all cars are stock body with 18” wheels & wide offset(the ‘97 Integra only goes up to 17”), Racing Hard, rear spoiler removed from the Lancer and I think a couple Integras.
For the Skyline, I leave the body and use wide offset. The tyres are wide enough to Replicate the look of the real cars.
For the touring cars, negative camber are -5f/-4r. I’ve stuck with that for many years, while watching BTCC mentioning those settings at a Snetterton night race event.
Power/weight for the Evo IV and M3 non-Evo are about 280-290BHP/1050kg(I think the Lancer only drops to 1053kg). They just need the ECU for detuning. 270BHP for the Integras and Civic TCs. All cars have a Racing Silencer. It’s all about the sounds with these cars.
Springs are about 3.0 hzf/r for all cars and anti-roll bars are varied. I mean, the AI will be using them. So, they’ll have all the aids on anyway.
As for the Evo IV, I use the Torque Vectoring set at 5:95. A caveat if you use it, the Lancers can feel light in the rear(not snappy, but lively, at corner exits. Be easy. It’s not so quick off the line with TCS Off either. AI will blast past you during a Grid Start though.
I don’t mess with the differentials. I buy the two-way diff.
Transmissions can be left stock or buy the Manual transmission and leave the default settings. The cars don’t need to reach 300km/h. They’re perfect redlining at about 240-250 km/h.
The R32, I set camber to -5f/-3r. Some of the real car front camber were more than that, but we’re only limited to -6f/r.
That car is about 550 BHP/1260kg, 18” wheels.
As for other Gr.A cars like the Supra ‘88, I used widebody to get the tyre width. The real Gr.A performance was great. The cars were too heavy. I tuned it a Little over 500BHP/under 1300kg. The R32 just murders everything like the real one.
M3 Evo I left stock body. Max engine tuning and use 18” wheels with wide offset.
As close to this as possible https://www.supercars.net/blog/1990-bmw-m3-group-2/
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