Gran Turismo 7 Daytona Speedway Gameplay Revealed
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I don't necessarily think it was included purely because of financial motives but they definitely dropped the ball with rally after GT2. Outside of those special WRC events you'd get in GT5, they haven't really bothered to do much with it at all.
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You know what's disrespectful? Not spelling his name right.
Kazunori Yamauchi - Wikipedia
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For anyone bored or interested in AI talk.
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Absolutely. No two ways about it.
The guy owns a rally prepped Evo, and yet still couldn't be bothered to make rallying even slightly close to reality, or have any care towards a very different kind of motorsport instead making it basically a worse handling circuit race.
That excuse died in 2001.
Argue all you want about why rallying was included, the clear fact is it hasn't improved AT ALL since inception. GTS rally is exactly the same as GT2 rally, down to the wide, not-rally-not-rallycross tracks, the terrible physics and, laughably, the solid concrete 'tape' that other games ditched in the PS2 era.
Well, suffice to say I don't see what he's seeing.
Well, suffice to say I don't see what he's seeing.
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Those titles didn't sell anywhere near as much as Gran Turismo did, Kaz Yamauchi simply wanted all aspects of car culture represented.
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Yeah, to insist that it was included purely to compete with CMR and V-Rally is a bit nonsense.
CMR and V-Rally were only really popular in Europe, while GT was popular in all regions. Many Americans barely followed rally back in the 90s, let alone actually knowing who Colin McRae was…
Let’s not forget that Kaz wanted a drag racing mode included aswell, which was ultimately scrapped with some remnants (menu icons, drag cars).
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Both answers could simultaneously be correct you know. Money and all aspects of car culture.
Also ... Remember the cheeky little drift section in gtsport? I never played it that much as it was rock hard (for me) ...should have tried more.
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You know what's disrespectful? Not spelling his name right.
Kazunori Yamauchi - Wikipedia
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For a guy who didn't know jack about FWD and understeer, and seriously thought that GT5 and 6 were 60 FPS, I really shouldn't be surprised that someone that so blatantly covers for Kaz would **** up his name in his rush to defend.
You guys are still responding to magog?
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The jungle alone looks like a real next gen experience IMO. Btw, where is Kaz? Where are the interviews?
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Yes I would like that also… I’m going to have to go buy a rally game so I can see the difference. I actually like to do the rally events in GTS but I have no clue how it is compared to other games.He did interviews during the release date press.
Regarding rally, at least give us proper point-to-point tight rally tracks. The wide dirt circuit tracks in GTSport are so bad and bland.
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Thank you Mr Patronising. I am well aware that GT7 has a livery editor, but thanks for the announcement anyway.
It's like a completely different world. The rally physics of GT have always just felt like tarmac with a lower grip multiplier. If you play a real rally game you'll actually feel the car biting into the loose surface and gaining grip so you can properly take corners at speed and not just slide to the outside like you're on ice like it's always been in GT.
That's not even taking into account the completely different experience actually driving on narrow rally tracks with hazards constantly there to ruin your day. Trees, rocks, ditches. Not a solid unbreakable bit of tape lining the tracks which are wider than a highway.
It's quite the challenge driving cleanly for 5+ minutes, and as I say, worlds away from GT.
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Here's a fun piece of trivia on the topic of GT rally physics:
It seems that the Japanese release of GT2 had much more challenging dirt physics, with cars oversteering more and having less grip overall. The NTSC and PAL versions have an almost 10 second faster lap time than the Japanese version!
I wish they kept the Japanese dirt physics for the Western releases, looks way more satisfying to drive.
It seems that the Japanese release of GT2 had much more challenging dirt physics, with cars oversteering more and having less grip overall. The NTSC and PAL versions have an almost 10 second faster lap time than the Japanese version!
I wish they kept the Japanese dirt physics for the Western releases, looks way more satisfying to drive.
On PS4 you're probably best starting out with Dirt 4. It's not simulation but it's synonymous to GT and tarmac racing, realistic enough, and still substancially more realistic than GT. It's got a career mode that you work your way through with team sponsors and that sort of thing, as well as rallycross and some other off-road events.
If you like the premise you can then try Dirt Rally 2.0 which is more a straight up rally simulator. There isn't much "game" to it like Dirt 4, you just race in a group of rallies, rinse repeat, and that's about it. No fancy structured career as such, and it can be very brutal in difficulty just because the rallies are realistic with the hazards. There is quite a learning curve, which is why I suggest starting with the more forgiving Dirt 4 first.
There are also the official WRC games which as I understand have steadily gotten better and better over the years but I'm no personal experience.
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Buy WRC10. The rallying in this game series is so much better than GTSport, and not just in the rally track designs but gravel physics too. The career mode is great and it looks great as well. I like its handling model and track designs more than Dirt Rally 2 personally, but these 2 titles are probably the most sim rally games right now.
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If you want to go truly hardcore, there's Richard Burns Rally on PC with the RallySimFans plugin.
Simply put, it integrates online into RBR with the ability to make your own tournaments. It also comes packaged with new physics that make the game a lot more realistic, new cars (with an overhauled engine sound system) and many new stages. There's even a plugin included with it that allows you to make your own pacenote sequences and install new co-drivers.
This tutorial video is very slightly outdated but it should still help. RSF has it's own Discord server so if you have any issues you can always ask there.
Like I said though, it's incredibly hardcore and the closest you can get to real rally in simracing. WRC 10 and DiRT Rally 2.0 are still great ways to get started though, and are much better in regards to singleplayer career modes (RSF focuses more on the online side of things.)
Simply put, it integrates online into RBR with the ability to make your own tournaments. It also comes packaged with new physics that make the game a lot more realistic, new cars (with an overhauled engine sound system) and many new stages. There's even a plugin included with it that allows you to make your own pacenote sequences and install new co-drivers.
This tutorial video is very slightly outdated but it should still help. RSF has it's own Discord server so if you have any issues you can always ask there.
Like I said though, it's incredibly hardcore and the closest you can get to real rally in simracing. WRC 10 and DiRT Rally 2.0 are still great ways to get started though, and are much better in regards to singleplayer career modes (RSF focuses more on the online side of things.)
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Like others have noted, the rally aspect of Gran Turismo is atrocious…. always has been.
Interesting enough, I challenge each of you to dig the Mazda Demio from the dark corners of your virtual garage, and slap some dirt tires on it. It’s actually a blast to rally
Interesting enough, I challenge each of you to dig the Mazda Demio from the dark corners of your virtual garage, and slap some dirt tires on it. It’s actually a blast to rally
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Yes, but it makes me even more annoyed that they didn't bother to incorporate any physics into the elements inside the car, like the safety net and release strap, the air conditioning ducting pipe, and the windshield wipers; symptoms of a generation that only cares about graphics...and where's my oil and dust on the windshield? Everything is very clean! As long as players simply don't mind charging for these kinds of things, like detail and realism, we won't see any real evolution.
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If you want rally just take 10 dollars and buy Dirt Rally 2.0. Gran Turismo has always focused more on circuit racing and will never be as good as a game that focuses just on rally.He did interviews during the release date press.
Regarding rally, at least give us proper point-to-point tight rally tracks. The wide dirt circuit tracks in GTSport are so bad and bland.
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