Gran Turismo 7 Engine Swap Compatibility

[Haitauer]

Didn't realise that they had gone with that one, that's especially disappointing.

Just completely overshot into the realm of utterly pointless.

Just realized how bad the rest of the new swaps are.. it seems there is a 13 year old boy in charge of engine swaps in PDI. 🤣 Makes no sense what so ever.

 

[Aloha62_2]

Just realized how bad the rest of the new swaps are.. it seems there is a 13 year old boy in charge of engine swaps in PDI. 🤣 Makes no sense what so ever.

There's 1 guy at PD who loves drifting, unfortunately he's in charge of the engine swap spreadsheet.

 

[Strax]

・Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT Veloce '67 | K24A-Civic
・Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus '16 | 8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron
・Autobianchi A112 Abarth '85 | K24A-Civic
・Dodge Challenger SRT Demon '18 | 8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron
・Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04 | LS7-BRZ
・Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec '24 | 8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron
・Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) '16 | DKH-911
・Subaru WRX STI Type S '14 | DKH-911
・Suzuki Jimny Sierra JC '18 | K24A-Civic
・Volvo 240 SE Estate '93 | LS7-BRZ

Where's DKH-911 from? Did we get a new engine?

 

[Famine]

Where's DKH-911 from? Did we get a new engine?

Yes, it's from the new 992 Turbo S.

 

[p78]

Yeah, not impressed with the Volvo swap. Still, no swap for the RS 500.

I can't wait for the RS500 to get the BRZ-LS7 next month.

Maybe just maybe someone will think, Hey we still have the V8-Ford-GT-LM-Test engine.
Maybe that would be nice for a Touring Car.

 

[Normalaatsra]

Would be great if swappable engines of the same make but from a different donor are added at the same time. Particularly in regard to the LS7 swap where the BRZ donor is favoured over the Corvette. Another case, cars with the RCR K24 option should get the FK8 K24 available too and vice versa.

Or has that been discontinued with the arrival of the FL5 Type R?

 

[I-Runner]

・Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT Veloce '67 | K24A-Civic

I'd preferred the GTAM engine instead of the K24 , in real life there is a Ferrari (V8) swapped Giulia sprint ..

IR

 

[Famine]

First post updated!

 

[tankuroded]

I'd preferred the GTAM engine instead of the K24 , in real life there is a Ferrari (V8) swapped Giulia sprint ..

IR

The fuel wear mind in me prefers the Alfa 2.5 V6 DTM engine.

 

[the Interceptor]

A general question: once a car is engine-swapped, there is - with one exception - no way to revert back to the original engine, is this correct?

The exception is when the car's original engine is a swappable engine itself and you have said engine available in your garage as a tuning part. In any other case you are stuck with the swapped engine.

 

[lilcat89]

There's 1 guy at PD who loves drifting, unfortunately he's in charge of the engine swap spreadsheet.

Either that or someone obsessed with crazy horsepower. I hardly ever touch the swaps to be honest now.

 

[Strax]

I'd preferred the GTAM engine instead of the K24 , in real life there is a Ferrari (V8) swapped Giulia sprint ..

IR

Indeed, the K24 in the Giulia Sprint makes no sense and it's just JDM fanboy material.

 

[ROCKET JOE]

Is it correct that we currently have 5 cars that can have two different swap engines ?

 

[AXL_EXE]

Indeed, the K24 in the Giulia Sprint makes no sense and it's just JDM fanboy material.

I would go for a non-turbocharged Alfa V6 for the Giulia myself, but sadly that isn't in the game.

 

[AlexWilmot]

Indeed, the K24 in the Giulia Sprint makes no sense and it's just JDM fanboy material.

 

[Doncarlone]

Indeed, the K24 in the Giulia Sprint makes no sense and it's just JDM fanboy material.

The swap that makes least sense to me, this update, is challenger demon with chiron engine. Challenger is already a 1000+hp monster. Why does it need a chiron engine? Maybe a gr3 engine swap instead?

 

[Obelisk]

The 240 getting the LS doesn't surprise me, but it is a welcome buff to the brick.

 

[Eggstor]

Yes, it's from the new 992 Turbo S.

I believe that's the first time a new car has been a donor.

 

[Haitauer]

I'd preferred the GTAM engine instead of the K24 , in real life there is a Ferrari (V8) swapped Giulia sprint ..

IR

YES! Now that would make sense.

Either that or someone obsessed with crazy horsepower. I hardly ever touch the swaps to be honest now.

If only they would let us tune them ourselves to those crazy hp if we wish.

The swap that makes least sense to me, this update, is challenger demon with chiron engine. Challenger is already a 1000+hp monster. Why does it need a chiron engine? Maybe a gr3 engine swap instead?

Yes - this is stupid SEMA show-off combo.

The 240 getting the LS doesn't surprise me, but it is a welcome buff to the brick.

..just that it is the wrong "LS".

 

[Meythia]

In any other case you are stuck with the swapped engine.

correct.

Is it correct that we currently have 5 cars that can have two different swap engines ?

without your comment I wouldnt even have noticed.
I never thought about how to select both when there only is a single overly huge button for "the option".

 

[Eggstor]

I never thought about how to select both when there only is a single overly huge button for "the option".

When you click the first engine swap button in GT Auto, it will let you choose which engine to buy and install.

 

[V8 Hilux]

Agree with the sentiment that this batch of swaps are a bit meh... Chiron engine is unusable in any fueled race. Was hoping the Volvo swap would make a good BTCC model, but not that BRZ thing... 😮‍💨 at least we got a new engine this time and the total swaps is the highest I belive for any update.

+1 for the spreadsheet crew! 🤓

 

[Strax]

Ugh, don't like this at all!

 

[tankuroded]

I would go for a non-turbocharged Alfa V6 for the Giulia myself, but sadly that isn't in the game.

Alfa 155 DTM's engine? It's a 2.5 NA V6.

 

[jrcmr03]

I'm just curious why you've quoted the two random posts you have quoted and what the rest of it means.

There's no Ruf cars that can accept new engines, so they're not listed. A Ruf-origin engine can go into two other cars and that is listed, under "Ruf" in the engines list. The car ordering isn't really relevant to anything - and is inconsistent in the game in any case, so I've done it in a more comfortable and easy to browse format (adding and rearranging some information to make it more clear and consistent): alphabetical, then generational where at least some cars have a generation listed, then alphabetical again. And the Toyota 86 Gr.4 is listed as such, twice; there are other non-racing 86s in the list too.

Sorry I am new here and perhaps did not post appropriately. The facts remains .. IMO. improvement is possible and warranted for such a great and vastly used resource. You are correct about RUF. and that's what I was intending thanks for that. I was trying to suggest that the list is matched to the manufacturer sort in game to easily allow the many to complete and see deltas as opposed to the convenience and arbitrary sorting of the composer (who i greatly appreciate the time and effort to this point) the BOLD and color of font on black is also not optimized as say yellow on black and adding italics with underline, to show update changes or even the list as is with a summary prior. I.e. 1.xx new swaps
1.
2.
etc
Constructive suggestions, thanks for your consideration.

I'm just curious why you've quoted the two random posts you have quoted and what the rest of it means.

There's no Ruf cars that can accept new engines, so they're not listed. A Ruf-origin engine can go into two other cars and that is listed, under "Ruf" in the engines list. The car ordering isn't really relevant to anything - and is inconsistent in the game in any case, so I've done it in a more comfortable and easy to browse format (adding and rearranging some information to make it more clear and consistent): alphabetical, then generational where at least some cars have a generation listed, then alphabetical again. And the Toyota 86 Gr.4 is listed as such, twice; there are other non-racing 86s in the list too.

 

[AXL_EXE]

Alfa 155 DTM's engine? It's a 2.5 NA V6.

Oh right. I think what I meant was a detuned variant of that engine. Somewhere around 200-240 HP would be to my liking.
I agree that some of these engine swaps are... questionable. Why a 1000+ engine into a car built to handle 120-150HP, that just ain't drivable anymore?😅

 

[Mafio]

I guess if you're not into drifing and swaps you wouldn't know stuff like this exists.

Volvo 745 Wagon with a 825 hp T6 Inline-Six

Kevin Brunberg rebuilt his Volvo 745 wagon for the 2023 Swedish Pro Drift Championship. The car is powered by a 2.8 L Volvo T6 inline-six built by Dennis Modig capable of 825 hp and 850 Nm (626 lb-ft) of torque to the wheels. The motor features a 021 Motor AB custom aluminum block, forged...

engineswapdepot.com

 

[Famine]

I was trying to suggest that the list is matched to the manufacturer sort in game to easily allow the many to complete and see deltas as opposed to the convenience and arbitrary sorting of the composer

My method isn't arbitrary. It's sorted alphabetically by brand, then alphabetically by car model, then by generation (and I use a standardised generation notation, not like the entirely random way done in game), and then alphabetically by trim. Other than a couple of instances where this would orphan a vehicle or group of vehicles - such as 996/997-generation 911s preceding 991/992-generation 911s - it's all sorted in this manner, and it matches the GTPlanet Master Car List in this regard.

The game uses various different ways of sorting and several of them are insane until you realise that they're sorted by a filename that you can't actually see.

You are correct about RUF. and that's what I was intending thanks for that.

As nothing has changed in that regard, I don't know what change you were suggesting...

 

[RCKakashi14]

With the 991 GT3 RS getting the Turbo S motor, I will make a build like this:

 

[tankuroded]

Keeping track of engine swaps by their introduction - did I get them right?

1.54
8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron to R8 Coupe '16
8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron to GT-R T-Spec '24
8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron to Challenger Demon
K24A-Civic to Giulia '67
K24A-Civic to Autobianchi A112
K24A-Civic to Jimny Sierra
DKH-911 to WRX STI '14
DKH-911 to 991 GT3 RS (second swap)
LS7-BRZ to Evo 8
LS7-BRZ to Volvo 240

1.52 (first update with second swaps)
R26B-787B to Roadster NR-A (ND) '22
R26B-787B to Roadster Touring Car (NA)
Evo-Final-Gr.B to Lancer Evolution Final (second swap)
Demon-Challenger to GTO Twin Turbo '91 (second swap)
SR20DET-Silvia-S15 to S13 Q's (second swap)
VK45DE-GT-R to S15 TC (second swap)
VR38DETT-GT-R-NISMO to 86 Gr.4
3UZ-FE-SC430 to 86 GRMN '16
K24A-Civic to 86 GT '15
LS7-BRZ to Hiace Van

1.49 (return of 10 swaps per update)
P65B44-Z4 to E91 M3
P65B44-Z4 to M4 '14
B58-GR-Supra-'20 to M3 (E30) Sport Evo '89
LS7-BRZ to M4 Gr.4
LS7-BRZ to E36 M3
690T-Giulia to Hyundai Genesis Coupe
690T-Giulia to Atenza Sedan '15
K24A-Civic to Mini '05
K24A-Civic to S2000
RB26DETT-GT-R-R34 to R31 GTS-R

1.48
B18C-Integra-'98 to EG Civic (first update car to get swap at debut)
K24A-Civic to 1997 EK Civic Type-R
K24A-Civic to Civic Type R TC
K24A-Civic to 1995 Integra Type R
K24A-Civic to Sileighty

1.46
LS7-BRZ to Veyron Gr.4
LS7-BRZ to LC500
LT5-Corvette-C7 to C1 Corvette
LT5-Corvette-C7 to C2 Corvette Coupe
LS7-Rampage to NSX Gr.4

1.44
Evo-Final-Gr.B to Evo III
Evo-Final-Gr.B to Evo IV
Evo-Final-Gr.B to Evo V
Evo-Final-Gr.B to Evo VI T.M. Edition
Evo-Final-Gr.B to Evo IX

1.43
2JZ-GTE-Supra to GR Corolla
27Z-GTE-Supra to A70 Supra
LS7-BRZ to 2017 GT-R
3S-GTE-MR2 to AE86 Trueno
K14C-Swift to Jimny

1.42
Demon-Challenger to Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi '68
Windsor-351-Maverick to Ford F-150 SVT Raptor '11
HR-414E-NSX (2016 GT500) to Garage RCR Civic
V12-XJR-9 to Jaguar XJ220 '92
M159-AMG-GT3-'20 to Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5-16 Evolution II '91
VR38DETT-GT-R-Nismo to Nismo 400R '95
2JZ-GTE-Supra to Toyota GR Supra RZ '19
1LR-GUE-LFA to Toyota Alphard Executive Lounge '18
1LR-GUE-LFA to Toyota GR Supra RZ '20
3S-GTE-MR2 to Toyota Corolla Levin 3Door 1600GT APEX (AE86) '83

1.40 (Spec II; first with 10 swaps per update)
LS7-Rampage to C7 Gr.3 Road Car
8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron to C6 ZR1
8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron to Viper GTS '13
8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron to Huracan
8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron to RC F
8.0-WR16-64v4T-Chiron to R35 NISMO
Windsor-351-Maverick to Mustang Gr.3 Road Car
R26B-787B to Atenza Gr.3 Road Car
VR38DETT-GT-R-Nismo to Lancer Evo Gr.B Road Car
CTR38-CTR3 to WRX Gr.B Road Car

1.38
959.50-959 to 356 A/1500 GS Carrera (coupe)
959.50-959 to 901 Carrera RS
959.50-959 to 964 Carrera RS
M97/80-911 to 997 GT3
Windsor-351-Maverick to Cayman GT4 (road car)

1.36
LT4-Camaro to Chevrolet Camaro Z28 '69
LT5-Corvette-C7 to Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (C4) '89
Voodoo-5.2L-GT350R to Ford Mustang Boss 429 '69
Windsor-351-Maverick to Ford Shelby GT350R '16
Voodoo-5.2L-GT350R to Shelby G.T.350 '65

1.35
VR38DETT-GT-R-Nismo to A110 '17
VR38DETT-GT-R-Nismo to R32 NISMO
VR38DETT-GT-R-Nismo to Z Performance
RB26DETT-GT-R-R34 to 350Z
VRH35Z-R92CP to R32 V-Spec II

1.34 (first version with ability to swap from GT Auto)
R26B-787B to Mazda3
R26B-787B to FC RX-7
H25A-Escudo to GTO Twin Turbo '91
M97/80-911 to 911 GT3 RS
CTR38-CTR3 to 993 Carrera RS

1.32
SE75E-2&4 to S800
SE75E-2&4 to S660
V8-Suzuki-VGT-Gr.3 to 2015 BRZ
V8-Suzuki-VGT-Gr.3 to M3 '89
V8-Suzuki-VGT-Gr.3 to 4C Gr.3 Road Car

1.31
SR20DET-Silvia-S15 to Z432R (S30)
LS7-Rampage to 240ZG
LZ20B-Skyline to FuguZ
LZ20B-Skyline to KPGC10
LZ20B-Skyline to KPGC110

1.29
LS7-Rampage to RE Amemiya RX-7
LT5-Corvette-C7 to S14 Silvia K's Aero '96
VRH35Z-R92CP to R33 GT-R
VRH35Z-R29CP to R34 GT-R
M158-AMG-Huayra to Supra RZ '97

1.27
Hellcat-Charger to the Jeep Willys MB
K20C1-Civic-'20 to Abarth 595 SS
F140B-Enzo to Ferrari F40
M97/80-911 to 930 Turbo '88
L539-Aventador-SV to Countach 25th Anniversary '88

1.26
HR-414E-NSX to 1992 NSX-R
HR-414E-NSX to 2002 NSX-R
HR-414E-NSX to Amuse S2000 GT1
HR-414E-NSX to BRZ Drift Car
VR38DETT-GT-R-NISMO to S15 Silvia Touring Car

1.25
K20C1-Civic-'20 to Beat '91
LT5-Corvette-C7 to 86 GT Limited '16
LT5-Corvette-C7 to S14 Type S '94
LT5-Corvette-C7 to BRZ STI Sport '18
LS7-Rampage to Amuse 380RS

1.23
13B-REW-FD to Suzuki Cappuccino
BYH-R8 to Audi TTS '14
F136F-458 to Alfa Romeo 4C
Voodoo-5.2L-GT350R to Ford Roadster
H25A-Escudo to Lancer Evo Final Edition

1.20
R26B-787B to RX-8 Spirit R '12
Camaro-LT4 to Tuscan Speed 6
VK45DE-GT-R to 370Z
R5-20vT-Quattro-Pikes to VW Golf Mk1
Hellcat-Charger to Superbird '70

1.19
V8-Ford-GT-LM-Test into Ford Focus RS '18
P65B44-Z4 into BMW 3.0 CSL '73
LS7-Rampage to DMC DeLorean S2 '04
Coyote-5.0L-Mustang into De Tomaso Pantera '71
LT5-Corvette into Corvette Stingray C3 (coupe)

1.17 (cutoff for bonanza-era engines)
LT5-Corvette-C7 to Corvette C3 Convertible
3UZ-FE-SC430 to Crown Athlete G '13
3UZ-FE-SC430 to Tundra
2JZ-GTE-Supra to GR Yaris
VR38DETT-GT-R-Nismo to 300ZX (Z32) '89

1.15
BYH-R8 to MR2 GT-S
VR38DETT-GT-R-Nismo to Delta HF
2JZ-GTE-Supra to BRZ '21
2JZ-GTE-Supra to GR86 '21
K20C1-Civic-'20 to Mini Cooper '65

1.13
LS7-BRZ to S13 Q's
P65B44-Z4 to M3 E46
LS9-Corvette to Firebird Trans Am
VR38DETT-GT-R-NISMO to 180SX
K20C1-Civic-20 to Integra '98

Day One
M64-03/911 to VW 1200 (originally would have been the 996's M96/76-911 engine)
M64-03/911 to Sambabus
R26B-787B to FD RX-7 Spirit R Type A
Coyote-5.0L-Mustang to Mustang Mach 1
2JZ-GTE-Supra to S15 Silvia
K20C1-Civic-'20 to EK9 Civic '98
13B-REW-RX-7 to NA Roadster
SR20DET-Silvia-S15 to S13 K's (at the time named "SR20DET-Silvia" prior to addition of the S14s)
Hellcat-Charger to Challenger R/T
LT1-Corvette to ND Roadster