Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[Doncarlone]

Today, I tried my hand again at using a 911 GT1 for the 700pp LeMans race and it went okay. It can last 3 laps between pitstops when power-lean at 6.

I also finally for the first time reached 20 million credits in this game, I bought a Jaguar XJ13 with that and then saved up some money again for another F1 GTR Longtail. I just didn't feel like getting the 250 GTO yet, maybe later.

You want an easy time farming le mans 700?
Use gr.1 classic cars (787b, sauber c9 etc) and, specially, gr.b cars (most of them are cheap to buy and the pp system is very friendly to them).

 

[MIE1992]

I find it very interesting that the Toyota Celica rally car is in Gr.B, despite very much not being an actual Group B car. I wonder what this could imply for other potentially additions to Gr.B? Could the Group A Lancia Delta end up there alongside its older brutal brother, the Delta S4? And that’s before we mention the prospect of the 037 rally car joining, too. Or perhaps some more 90s rally icons to join the Celica, especially those from Mitsubishi and Subaru. And what about pre-Group B rally cars, such as the Lancia Stratos?

It’s all quite interesting - hopefully we’ll get an actual point-to-point course like Pikes Peak so we can have something more resembling a rally. (The return of the Goodwood Hillclimb would be great, too, especially since I skipped GT6.)

EDIT: Speaking of the Lancia Stratos, the Stratos Turbo seems to be a Group 5 racer in the vein of the Nissan Skyline Super Silhouette, so that’d be real cool if Lancia could get a Gr.3 car through the historic Group 5.

 

[Nathan88]

Over a real world stage later generation Group A cars are every bit as quick as Group B, in fact quicker on most stages.

But in-game Group B cars come with equivalent tyres, decent suspension, brakes, and use of the handbrake. Group A cars are also handicapped with an official circa 300bhp, when actual cars had 350bhp+.

Oh, and the Goodwood Hillclimb would be a great addition. Lots of technical sections so vastly different spec cars can post competitive times. Such a great venue to benchmark cars. They could also use it in the weekly Time Trial, in addition to a regular track.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

You want an easy time farming le mans 700?
Use gr.1 classic cars (787b, sauber c9 etc) and, specially, gr.b cars (most of them are cheap to buy and the pp system is very friendly to them).

Nah, I'm good. and I already knew about those bud, but thanks anyway.

I find it very interesting that the Toyota Celica rally car is in Gr.B, despite very much not being an actual Group B car. I wonder what this could imply for other potentially additions to Gr.B?

Wait, what? checks garage Well, that makes no sense. Group A is in a different world from the Group B cars.

With that said, this could indicate that PD intends for Gr.B to just be the general rally class. Which if it were me, I would prefer them not doing that and making separate classes instead.

 

[261004]

I find it very interesting that the Toyota Celica rally car is in Gr.B, despite very much not being an actual Group B car. I wonder what this could imply for other potentially additions to Gr.B? Could the Group A Lancia Delta end up there alongside its older brutal brother, the Delta S4? And that’s before we mention the prospect of the 037 rally car joining, too. Or perhaps some more 90s rally icons to join the Celica, especially those from Mitsubishi and Subaru. And what about pre-Group B rally cars, such as the Lancia Stratos?

It’s all quite interesting - hopefully we’ll get an actual point-to-point course like Pikes Peak so we can have something more resembling a rally. (The return of the Goodwood Hillclimb would be great, too, especially since I skipped GT6.)

EDIT: Speaking of the Lancia Stratos, the Stratos Turbo seems to be a Group 5 racer in the vein of the Nissan Skyline Super Silhouette, so that’d be real cool if Lancia could get a Gr.3 car through the historic Group 5.

The datamined list mentioned the Renault 5 Rally Car, so I think Gr.B will be a mishmash of Group B and A, hell maybe even S.

Regarding Pikes Peak, this screenshot exists:

 

[OldandSlow]

Hillclimbs are a blast. They would be great additions to the game.

 

[BEBOP_Bill]

You want an easy time farming le mans 700?
Use gr.1 classic cars (787b, sauber c9 etc) and, specially, gr.b cars (most of them are cheap to buy and the pp system is very friendly to them).

I want the long tail so bad. I need to be prepared the next time it shows up

 

[05XR8]

I think we all figured by now, no new classes. Probably the utmost controversial car ina Group, was the Slophy. Sent the Sport Mode community into a roar with a car that was too fast for Gr.4. Also, the Gr.1 class put that to bed. It was funny when GT7 screeen shots revealed the GT500 Skyline and Alfa 155 racing together. Then, to find out the Alfa was in Gr.4.
There just aren’t enough of certain cars to start creating the accurate classes. If PD start splitting Group C, LMP1, GT3, GT4, JGTC, Group A touring & rally, real Group B, faux TCR, Group 5, they’d have to actually build many cars than it seems they’d rather not build, for Sport Mode in particular.

Sport Mode is obviously PD’s baby. However, it’s ironic that the Sport Community are made to suffer with the same races over and over. The MX-5 TC is a lone ranger. Yet, there is now a proper MX-5 NR-A that could take its place. Or at least balance the MX-5 TC to go head-to-head with the Civic Type R TC(I’ve been custom racing both cars in a mixed class, along with the Silvia TC). PD painted themselves into a corner with GT Sport and could have sorted it for GT7, but just won’t do it.

 

[JTB10000]

5 classes already seems to be too much for them to adjust seeing how infrequently they do it now. I doubt they want to add more classes to balance to that.

 

[Nielsen]

I’m beginning to lose motivation for this game. I’ve always found it semi-boring due the general lack of different things to so, but most weeks I would earn the credits needed to add another not so overly expensive car to my collection. Just by playing it without grinding any specific event over and over (something I refuse to do). However, the cars I have left to collect are really expensive and I’m earning credits rather slowly, which means the joy of buying a new car is getting considerably more infrequent. Most of my cars I have driven to death and the events I enjoy are starting to feel especially tedious. The act of driving may be timeless entertainment in its own right, but right now I just don’t feel sufficiently stimulated by it.

Time to take a break? I think so, but for once I have some free time and the weather outside is rainy, windy and dark most times of the day. Perfect time to for me to clock some mileage in GT7, but the appetite and mood just isn’t there. Sigh.

 

[MMX]

I’m beginning to lose motivation for this game. I’ve always found it semi-boring due the general lack of different things to so, but most weeks I would earn the credits needed to add another not so overly expensive car to my collection. Just by playing it without grinding any specific event over and over (something I refuse to do). However, the cars I have left to collect are really expensive and I’m earning credits rather slowly, which means the joy of buying a new car is getting considerably more infrequent. Most of my cars I have driven to death and the events I enjoy are starting to feel especially tedious. The act of driving may be timeless entertainment in its own right, but right now I just don’t feel sufficiently stimulated by it.

Time to take a break? I think so, but for once I have some free time and the weather outside is rainy, windy and dark most times of the day. Perfect time to for me to clock some mileage in GT7, but the appetite and mood just isn’t there. Sigh.

I got that feeling sooner than expected with GT7. I'm not a grinder either, and don't have to have every cay. They could do so much more with this game. Would be nice to know what their plans are.
I still play some on occasion, but it's definitely not the big draw it should be, at less than a year old.

 

[OldandSlow]

I’m beginning to lose motivation for this game. I’ve always found it semi-boring due the general lack of different things to so, but most weeks I would earn the credits needed to add another not so overly expensive car to my collection. Just by playing it without grinding any specific event over and over (something I refuse to do). However, the cars I have left to collect are really expensive and I’m earning credits rather slowly, which means the joy of buying a new car is getting considerably more infrequent. Most of my cars I have driven to death and the events I enjoy are starting to feel especially tedious. The act of driving may be timeless entertainment in its own right, but right now I just don’t feel sufficiently stimulated by it.

Time to take a break? I think so, but for once I have some free time and the weather outside is rainy, windy and dark most times of the day. Perfect time to for me to clock some mileage in GT7, but the appetite and mood just isn’t there. Sigh.

Custom Races saved the game for me.

 

[missilefest]

Custom Races saved the game for me.

I've noticed that when I run Tokyo East 20 lappers that the AI will frequently decide to slow down by about 30-40 seconds, only using about 90% throttle, for significant portions of the race. Other races they are posting times faster than I could get (this should be the norm but its rare). For context these are with 20 garage opponents with a wide range of pp. It's fustrating.

 

[HarVee]

Custom Races saved the game for me.

They'd save the game for me too if payouts weren't total ****. As it is now I only run them on occasions when I'm bored.

 

[GBalao888]

The datamined list mentioned the Renault 5 Rally Car, so I think Gr.B will be a mishmash of Group B and A, hell maybe even S.

The original Gr. B cars created since GT Sport were also even a mix of rallycross supercars inspired by FIA WRX, Red Bull GRC or Rallycross Americas. So pretty much, Gr. B is a strange blend of cars.

 

[RACECAR]

The original Gr. B cars created since GT Sport were also even a mix of rallycross supercars inspired by FIA WRX, Red Bull GRC or Rallycross Americas. So pretty much, Gr. B is a strange blend of cars.

Its effectively done exactly like GR.3 and GR.4 were going all the way back to the Closed Beta: Its a generalized category that's loosely based on real life racing classes but less a 1-to-1 recreation and more so based on general performance or idea of said category (Which even then is abit sketchy). That's why GR.1 has VGTs. LMP1 Hybrids, LMP1s and Group C cars lumped together or why GR.2 has the 2008 JAF GT500 cars lumped with the 2016 Class 1 GT500 cars and the late 1990s GT1 cars lumped together.

Essentially, PD's spin on GR.B is cars that are Rally based whether that means the cars they created based on Rallycross, WRC Group B (Peugeot 205 Turbo 16) and Group A (Toyota Celica GT-Four ST204) or Hillclimb cars (Audi Sport Quattro).

 

[lqpl]

They'd save the game for me too if payouts weren't total ****. As it is now I only run them on occasions when I'm bored.

Amen to that..

 

[suomi1]

Amen to that..View attachment 1222981

These light reflections though..

 

[Nielsen]

Custom Races saved the game for me.

The AI doesn’t seem to have any pace in the custom events. It feels like a track day and the payouts are horrible.

 

[OldandSlow]

I've noticed that when I run Tokyo East 20 lappers that the AI will frequently decide to slow down by about 30-40 seconds, only using about 90% throttle, for significant portions of the race. Other races they are posting times faster than I could get (this should be the norm but its rare). For context these are with 20 garage opponents with a wide range of pp. It's fustrating.

They'd save the game for me too if payouts weren't total ****. As it is now I only run them on occasions when I'm bored.

The AI doesn’t seem to have any pace in the custom events. It feels like a track day and the payouts are horrible.

I run the Boost setting on weak. That makes the AI much more aggressive and challenging. Without boost, it's too easy, (even for me).

The payouts do stink.

Amen to that..View attachment 1222981

Looks like a bunch of Minions out there. Love it.

 

[benjoi84]

Custom Races saved the game for me.

I could see this being the case in the future. I'm more or less still interested in online, but for when I fancy a casual driving session my single player workflow is looking like this:

Test different elegible cars in World Circuit events -> win each event in most-fun cars -> setup One-Make custom races on the same circuits using the absolute favourites.

As mentioned before, it's not exactly a money spinner but that's why I have left a few missions and circuit experiences.

 

[John Istead]

Hillclimbs are a blast. They would be great additions to the game.

Totally agree, Goodwood & Pikes Peak + more British & European hillclimb venues also

 

[Nowax]

Totally agree, Goodwood & Pikes Peak + more British & European hillclimb venues also

This. Trento Bondone from Assetto Corsa is really a pleasure to drive on. It's fantastic.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

I run the Boost setting on weak. That makes the AI much more aggressive and challenging. Without boost, it's too easy, (even for me).

The payouts do stink.


Looks like a bunch of Minions out there. Love it.

I being wondering doesn't boost just turn the ai into rubberbanding ai?

Also what happens when you make the boost strong?

 

[OFautomotive]

Can we expect some silhouette hint from Kaz today ?

 

[GTJG44]

Can we expect some silhouette hint from Kaz today ?

Don’t think so, it’s already late in Japan. Silhouettes will probably be shown next weekend.

 

[Talon16]

I’m beginning to lose motivation for this game. I’ve always found it semi-boring due the general lack of different things to so, but most weeks I would earn the credits needed to add another not so overly expensive car to my collection. Just by playing it without grinding any specific event over and over (something I refuse to do). However, the cars I have left to collect are really expensive and I’m earning credits rather slowly, which means the joy of buying a new car is getting considerably more infrequent. Most of my cars I have driven to death and the events I enjoy are starting to feel especially tedious. The act of driving may be timeless entertainment in its own right, but right now I just don’t feel sufficiently stimulated by it.

Time to take a break? I think so, but for once I have some free time and the weather outside is rainy, windy and dark most times of the day. Perfect time to for me to clock some mileage in GT7, but the appetite and mood just isn’t there. Sigh.

Welcome to the club. You lasted longer than me... and likely longer than most.

Only thing keeping me interested in the game for many months is Sport mode, but even that has become stale and repetitive.

 

[Nebuc72]

I being wondering doesn't boost just turn the ai into rubberbanding ai?

Also what happens when you make the boost strong?

The AI rubberband anyway, boost is a separate attribute.

Setting it to weak seems to give the AI a kick up the rear to try and keep up with 1st (but Strong just breaks them again, I think the rubberband kicks in too much).

It would be nice to have a toggle for the rubberbanding as well as the boost setting; but PD have never been ones to give us a way to do an actually good race.

 

[GlamFM]

There’s no reason - NOT A SINGLE ONE - why there isn’t a 550.000K 30 minute GT4 event at EVERY track and a 1.000.000K 60 minute GT3 event at EVERY track.

No reason. Whatsoever.

How are the people at PD looking at this and not feel the urge to change something about it? What’s the goal behind this design decision?

It’s increasingly frustrating.

I want all the cars. I don’t want to drive the ugliest track (Le Mans) in the game anymore.

 

[05XR8]

The AI doesn’t seem to have any pace in the custom events. It feels like a track day and the payouts are horrible.

For sure, the AI standard AI need improving. Also, competitive AI depends how your cars are tuned, the track layout and Boost on/off. For the folks that wish not to spend the time and/or don’t have time for that, it’s understandable. However, it’s rewarding when having a good set up.
Payouts are a problem when collecting, no doubt. However, for those far along in the game, for me anyway, it’s not a problem. I don’t even have all the cars in the game. Just the cars I want, to play how I want.

PD are real close to Assetto Corsa with Custom Races. A championship save feature - to link a series of circuits, Practice and Qualifying, are pretty much all it needs. The save feature definitely helped.