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Instead in GT7 we have 20 mil Cr LCD cars like the McLaren F1 that's only available for a short period of time once every couple of months and cost $200 USD in "micro" transactions.

Meanwhile, the same car in GT Sport costs $2.99.
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I'd say that's pretty gross.
I still think this is much better than having this car paywalled behind DLC pack like for example Forza does. In both GT Sport and GT7 you can get this car for free, and it isn't that hard as many people will say. I just enjoy the game and if I want one car just slowly and stadily earn for it just like in old GT titles.
 
As of right not GT7 only has ONE currency and this currency can be earned just by playing the game.
If one day they introduce gems or diamonds or some other "premium" ******** currency that can ONLY be bought with real money and cars and tracks that can ONLY be bought with it I´ll join you in calling GT7 "gross".
GT7 has two currencies. "Free" credits that's capped and earned through gameplay and paid credits that's uncapped and earned through your credit card.
 
GT7 has two currencies. "Free" credits that's capped and earned through gameplay and paid credits that's uncapped and earned through your credit card.
Nope. It´s the same currency. It´s called "credits" and however you obtain it is up to you.

I earn it through gameplay.

I think our discussion has run it´s course. You´re being disingenuous.
 
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Instead in GT7 we have 20 mil Cr LCD cars like the McLaren F1 that's only available for a short period of time once every couple of months and cost $200 USD in "micro" transactions.

Meanwhile, the same car in GT Sport costs $2.99.
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I'd say that's pretty gross.
I honestly think GT7 is less gross than GT Sport in this, to be honest. Microtransactions are way scummier when you can pay £3 100 times than £300 once, because people think less harm of the smaller transactions even when they add up, and it's also easier to get people on the "one more go" addiction train that way. A big barrier of entry stops all but the big whales at the first hurdle.
 
I like the fact the ones who whine about microtransactions in GT7 being "evil" or "scam" , those would be first who would buy the season passes , driver passes , premium passes or other gross things 🙄
 
Nope. It´s the same currency. It´s called "credits" and however you obtain it is up to you.

I earn it through gameplay.

I think our discussion has run it´s course. You´re being disingenuous.
Literally two separate currencies.

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Reminder that free credits were capped at 20 mil when the game launched. It was only raised to 100 mil after the playerbase threw a collective fit.

I do wonder what rationale there is to having a cap in the first place.
 
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Literally two separate currencies.
Yes but actually no. Those credits have the same purpose and are literally the same. Your free credits have the same "buying power" as paid ones. So... this doesn't mean anything that they are "seperate"

In other mobile games "second payed currency" usually has more value or you can buy things unavaible for normal free currency. This isn't the case for GT7.

Reminder that free credits were capped at 20 mil when the game launched. It was only raised to 100 mil after the playerbase threw a collective fit.

I do wonder what rationale there is to having a cap in the first place.
It was. And no longer is. 100 mil is more than enough.
 
I think people wouldn't be entirely opposed to paying for new cars and tracks if it means more than 3 cars a month and more than 3 tracks a year.
There was a poll on this and the results was the opposite of what you think.
The game counts them separately:

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But in the end they're still the same currency - it's the spending priority (in-game credits, then paid credits) and amount of credits you can store (max of 100 million for credits you get in-game) that matters.
 
No it isn't. For me this game has the same "grind" as other GT entries. People think it is grindy because it doesn't hit you with tons of Exotic supercars and milions from super roullette tickets like Forza Horizon does. I think that earning the car you want is much more fun than just giving all at once.
You might feel that way, but it categorically is more of a grind, this is well documented on this site and it is a significantly greater grind compared to GT1-4, arguably where the serries was on it's upward trajectory and peaked.

You categoritcally earn credits slower than you do in other GT games, the cars are also harder/more of a grind to obtain and all the while there are fewer events in the game compared to most previous entries, even now after a year of updates.

I agree that you can go too far the other way, but there's a huge middle ground between GT7 and Forza Horizon and how they chuck content at you (or don't). You might feel it''s no more a grind becuase you enjoy the slow burn more than most, therefore it doesn't bother you, but statistically GT7 is a hell of a grind.

That poll doesn't quite say what you think it says in this context. It's paid as per the OP's suggestion of paid content, or free as it is. The way GT7 is right now, I wouldn't pay for content as I think the game needs a complete overhaul before it can justify that. That said, I am not against paid content that justifies the price. You can read my thoughts on that in post #31.

I think overall, people will en-masse always choose free DLC over paid if presented with a which do you prefer type of choice though, but in practice, people will pay for DLC if the demand and justification is there.
 
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Playing Forza Motorsport 4 makes me realize that PD needs a new leader at the helm. I feel as though a fresh perspective is needed to rejuvenate the franchise and push it forward. At this point Kaz is something of a liability who I believe is holding the series back. If the franchise is going to continue, some hard decisions must be made for the greater good of the community. Kaz is a one-track mind it seems and it will result in the demise of the series if nothing is done.
Play forza motorsport 7. You will probably realize that gt and fm are not so diferent when it comes to dissapointing their community.
 
I think overall, people will en-masse always choose free DLC over paid if presented with a which do you prefer type of choice though, but in practice, people will pay for DLC if the demand and justification is there.
I think of it like this: in the cases of manufacturers like Lotus or tracks like Silverstone (where it seems PD can't afford the license fee), if the choice is between funding their inclusion through paid DLC or not having them at all, I wouldn't mind opening my wallet.
 
As disappointing as it was, FM7 still had a more fleshed out singleplayer career mode and a more user friendly custom/arcade race system than GT7 in its current state.
No it doesn't. I played FM7 as soon as I got decent PC finally, and It is extremely overhyped. I think even GT Sport had better campaign than FM7.
 
No it doesn't. I played FM7 as soon as I got decent PC finally, and It is extremely overhyped. I think even GT Sport had better campaign than FM7.
GT Sport has a better campaign than GT7 though. Certainly in terms of variety and volume of events.

Both FM7 and GT7 suffer from a dumbing down of the single player experience and restricting choice unnecessarily. FM7 trumps GT7 when it comes to the custom races. Not only are there more options, but you can earn Cr quite well through them as well. But both games feel designed with a lack of imagination and poor choices preventing them from being as good as they could be.
 
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I like FM7. I think I think I have about 260hrs played.
I just dont agree when people say that it is so superior to gtsport. That FM tamples gt in every way possible.
It simply doesnt.
FM is better in some parts, GT is better in others.
They are not that diferent.
 
Fm7 to me has even worse career mode campared to gt7 witch is not that great either, if they just fix and bring gt league and fix some of payouts for some races including custom races witch pays quite poorly, but they give you option to choise any car you want from your garage witch you cant even do in forza, all they need to do in gt7 is fix the career mode and some of evonomy and its the best gran turismo by far, becouse its already way a head previous games in most other aspects, going to be intresting see how next Forza motorsport will be right now there is just not much hope for me, hope they prove me wrong on showcase, i never find a bad thing to have multiply good racing games to play and there is just nothing that intrests me besides gt7 and ac on pc
 
Fm7 to me has even worse career mode campared to gt7 witch is not that great either, if they just fix and bring gt league and fix some of payouts for some races including custom races witch pays quite poorly, but they give you option to choise any car you want from your garage witch you cant even do in forza, all they need to do in gt7 is fix the career mode and some of evonomy and its the best gran turismo by far, becouse its already way a head previous games in most other aspects, going to be intresting see how next Forza motorsport will be right now there is just not much hope for me, hope they prove me wrong on showcase, i never find a bad thing to have multiply good racing games to play and there is just nothing that intrests me besides gt7 and ac on pc
GT7 has no career at all, only Café books.
 
GT7 has no career at all, only Café books.
I was talking about career mode as hole, licences, missions, circuit experinces, and even championchips but its a shame there only 10, the menu books is the worst part of gt7 career mode, but with all things considered its still better than fm7 career mode, still offer more varity, in fm7 you just have the races, and you could only use the same car on one series, and no challanges or time trials at all,
 
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I was talking about career mode as hole, licences, missions, circuit experinces, and even championchips but its a shame there only 10, the menu books is the worst part of gt7 career mode, but with all things considered its still better than fm7 career mode, still offer more varity, in fm7 you just have the races, no challanges or time trials at all,
If you're counting driver licences, missions and circuit experiences as part of the career mode then gt7 actually has a good career mode. Those are some of the best content in gt7, and its pity when dont have more of it.
 
with all things considered its still better than fm7 career mode, still offer more varity, in fm7 you just have the races, and you could only use the same car on one series, and no challanges or time trials at all,
I agree that GT7 has more than just races, but variety works in the races too. There's a wider variety of event types in FM7 than GT7 which consists mainly of 700pp at this track, 600pp at that track, 800pp at the other track. It's bland as hell.

Neither are close to the series bests, which you prefer is pretty subjective, so I won't agrue with what makes GT7 a better career than FM7 for you, but it's different for me. The licenses and missions etc. are one time fluff for me. They're nice to have, but I would tire of a game made up entirely of them pretty quickly.

As it happens, I tired of GT7 pretty quickly, because the races are so unispired and dull. At least in FM7 the races are proper grid starts and there are far more categories of races. I do agree with your criticisms of it though, and by me preferring it to GT7 I'm in no way praising it as great. It's not.
 
I agree that GT7 has more than just races, but variety works in the races too. There's a wider variety of event types in FM7 than GT7 which consists mainly of 700pp at this track, 600pp at that track, 800pp at the other track. It's bland as hell.

Neither are close to the series bests, which you prefer is pretty subjective, so I won't agrue with what makes GT7 a better career than FM7 for you, but it's different for me. The licenses and missions etc. are one time fluff for me. They're nice to have, but I would tire of a game made up entirely of them pretty quickly.

As it happens, I tired of GT7 pretty quickly, because the races are so unispired and dull. At least in FM7 the races are proper grid starts and there are far more categories of races. I do agree with your criticisms of it though, and by me preferring it to GT7 I'm in no way praising it as great. It's not.
What really is shame is that they have nailed many other aspects of the game in my opinion, car models are excellent, car sounds, not all perfect, good way of custmazing cars, upgrading exhaust not only changing the sound its also change in looks to witch is nice detail, good wheather system, a lot of those things are an improvment over previous titles, the career mode and some of economy flaws it was letting it down a bit, its a lot better than on launch for sure, but not much have improved when it comes to races
 
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I was talking about career mode as hole, licences, missions, circuit experinces, and even championchips but its a shame there only 10, the menu books is the worst part of gt7 career mode, but with all things considered its still better than fm7 career mode, still offer more varity, in fm7 you just have the races, and you could only use the same car on one series, and no challanges or time trials at all,
^this. I still don't understand why people treat career mode only as world circuit races. There is a lot to do in the whole game, yes I would love to have even more, but it isn't as barebones as Forza Motorsport 7 to be honest.
 
^this. I still don't understand why people treat career mode only as world circuit races. There is a lot to do in the whole game, yes I would love to have even more, but it isn't as barebones as Forza Motorsport 7 to be honest.
Well I think a big help would be if the 1hr human comedy races would permanently pay 1 000 000 per win. Those are some good races to do if they paid more than once.

And yeah we have two Time Trials now, which have made me reduce the grinding some.
 
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