Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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There's well over 140 more in PD's vault that could potentially be added, ranging from licensing nightmares (Deltawing, seven Lotii/Lotuses, LCC Rocket, Cizeta V16T) to seemingly simple additions that leave us scratching our heads as to their long absence (599, LFA, Gallardo, Reventon, '05, '07, '09, '10, '12 WRX STis).
Not to mention the Evo 9 and DC5 Integra. Honestly, there are a lot of gems for PD to pick from.
 
Not to mention the Evo 9 and DC5 Integra. Honestly, there are a lot of gems for PD to pick from.
Basically nearly all the premium gt5 and gt6 cars could be ported to gt7 without major issues, with some 3d touchings of course.
The car number would be increased quite a bit with this way.

That's why it's so frustating with PD, plenty of cars unused for the precedent game, and same for tracks, I know it's the licensing issue, but Ascari resort, Cape Ring,Chamonix, Sierra, Rome,Eiger, Silverstone, we have apotentally major game.
 
There's well over 140 more in PD's vault that could potentially be added, ranging from licensing nightmares (Deltawing, seven Lotii/Lotuses, LCC Rocket, Cizeta V16T) to seemingly simple additions that leave us scratching our heads as to their long absence (599, LFA, Gallardo, Reventon, '05, '07, '09, '10, '12 WRX STis).
Sending the LCC Rocket down the big Alsace Test Course descent would be super fun. I'm sad we'll almost certainly never get that back now.
 
Though there are 2 differenty type of PS3 era premium models, those with addaptive tessalation and those without. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were the models with addaptive tessalation that we saw make the transition to to GT: Sport and GT7 with the least amount of work.

But it makes sense for PD to be reusing the original base models because they were made far more detailed than the PS3 could handle and they're probably still far more detailed than what the PS5 can handle. At least in a practical game environment anyway.
There was a GT6 vs GTS comparison thread a while back, and in many cases you could see some sections or entire car’s wireframes were direct carryovers with little to no changes - particularly apparent on the interiors and wheel arches. IIRC it was most obvious on the Diablo, SLR, Ferrari 330, and a 2000s BMW. Every car needed to have a complete texture and shading redo with the massive upgrade the PS4 allowed, but it seems the modeling standard PD started on the PS3 was fairly future proof to an extent, even with content as far back as GT5.

I believe people started using the thread to compare similar/duplicate cars like the AE86s, Meganes, and BRZ/86 variants, and found too that many of the cars actually had a number copy/paste panels. This would make sense since IRL the cars did in fact use the exact same part sets, clearly allowing a faster turnaround time on the modeling side. It’d be nice if PD used this factor to push through some additional trim levels of cars at a faster pace - a noteworthy and popular addition would probably be a Skyline GTST, which has different engine configurations and is RWD rather than AWD.

The 6th gen GT4 Celica exterior only differs from the base car in the front bumper, hood, and wheels, as far as I’m aware a regular GT otherwise has all the same panels and lights. From that you could get a base Celica GT for a low power FWD sports car, and a medium power FWD SSII/SSIII that had the NA BEAMS 3S engine that was a direct competitor to the Integra Type R in the JDM market (even using the rally risers from the GTFOUR). PD could get similar results if they ever go for a 5th gen Celica (base GT and a GT4), transaxle Porsches (I.e. base 944 and 944 Turbo S), Challenger (V6 and Demon), I’m sure many more examples could be thought up with time. I’d be very happy with cars we’ve seen before and/or look similar to ones we have but with unique driving characteristics if it means more output overall due to reduced modeling loads.
 
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I've just finished the new Music Rallies, and I think they missed a trick with waiting until now on the last one at the Nurburgring - that would have been a really cool little drive to have while the credits scroll or immediately post-credits as a finale, it really has that celebratory "congratulations on winning the game" vibe.
 
There's well over 140 more in PD's vault that could potentially be added, ranging from licensing nightmares (Deltawing, seven Lotii/Lotuses, LCC Rocket, Cizeta V16T) to seemingly simple additions that leave us scratching our heads as to their long absence (599, LFA, Gallardo, Reventon, '05, '07, '09, '10, '12 WRX STis).
Not to mention the Evo 9 and DC5 Integra. Honestly, there are a lot of gems for PD to pick from.
Let me add BMW 507, Corvette Z06 (C5), Ferrari FXX and Honda Civic Type R (FD2).

I have no idea why the post-launch car additions haven’t brought more premium cars back to today’s standard, especially when it comes to those we’ve just listed.
 
Something that likely means nothing, but in some of the conversations you can have at the Café the people sometimes reference other cars not in the game.

There was one that stood out to me at the time though, when you speak to Jeremy with the BMW McLaren F1 Gr.2, in which he says at the end:

"Two years later, BMW settled the score in a way with its own Le Mans victory! But that's a story for another time."

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Foreshadowing the return of the BMW V12 LMR perhaps? It hasn't happened yet if it is. Like I say most of these references to cars not in the game are going to be unrelated to future content, but this one in particular stands out, to me at least.
 
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Sending the LCC Rocket down the big Alsace Test Course descent would be super fun. I'm sad we'll almost certainly never get that back now.
I misread Alsace as Ascari and now I want the Ascari Test Track/Resort to come back.

Also, unpopular opinion: you shouldn't be able to change the wheels on race cars.
 
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Toyota gtone ts020 and Nissan r390 lm is race cars i want to see added most in gt7, i put them much higher thsn any new gt3 machine, they would much as needed as either dodge challanger demon and Lexus lfa in my opinion,
Would not mind seeing r390 road car as well we see what future brings, but with movie next month we could see a bigger update this month
 
I misread Alsace as Ascari and now I want the Ascari Test Track/Resort to come back.

Also, unpopular opinion: you shouldn't be able to change the wheels on race cars.
I do agree with your last opinion, but for Gran Turismo, the exceptions are due to certain car models.
We can change the Porsche 962 wheels to mimic the road version, on BBS RS.

Now, changing wheels of a '16 GT500 GT-R to 4-lug RAYS, is a no-no.
 
Really surprised that PD hasn't had access to/license to/desire to model this car yet considering it's:

1. a Toyota
2. a fan favourite from past games in the series
3. in running condition:


Why so sure they don't have access? Why so sure they don't have desire to model it? Maybe the car just need more work and it is coming in future updates? Maybe it is already modeled and is waiting for the right moment to show up in update/GT8 ?
 


This post is fast approaching its 1st anniversary and you can't exactly find these new beloved GT cars in the game. Starting from September 2022, which is the date of this post, I can only think of the WRC Celica and maybe the XJ220. Since "beloved GT cars" don't necessarily mean every returning car from my point of view, I'm not counting every single one added since then (which is also not that many of them lol).

Just like the opinion of most people here, the GT-One, the R390 and the JGTC NSX, for example, are exactly what we would consider these types of cars. Being a race car does add more to the nostalgic superstar value.

We started off in a pretty interesting pace, with the Escudo and the Skyline Silhouette being added one right after the other... but coming back to today's reality, not a single returning race car was added in 2023, and we're halfway through it.

I'm not saying Nenkai's wrong, of course he's not, I'm just saying this "new beloved GT cars" pace is surely damn slow. July might save it, or might not.
 
Why so sure they don't have access? Why so sure they don't have desire to model it? Maybe the car just need more work and it is coming in future updates? Maybe it is already modeled and is waiting for the right moment to show up in update/GT8 ?
I'm not sure, hence "yet". It's only been 10 years since it was last in GT6 so it's obviously not high up on PD's to-do list. Maybe the 101st anniversary of Le Mans next June will finally be the right time.

It's also a little funny that a car so strongly associated with GT is making a curren gen console return in Forza of all games. :lol:
 
with the same model from x360 forza ...

Thats funny becouse most Toyota they have bring back including mk4 supra in ;
Forza has been recycled 360 models, and they market them as new cars, i dont see this change in new forza motorsport now either, if you look at supra mk4 in gt7 is so much more detailed and accurate campared to the forza model thats what happens when you recycling 13 years old models
 
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I misread Alsace as Ascari and now I want the Ascari Test Track/Resort to come back.

Also, unpopular opinion: you shouldn't be able to change the wheels on race cars.
As someone who despises seeing 4 lugnut wheels on cars that regularly feature centerlocks (why do people do this?), I'm going to provide multiple examples of why I strongly disagree with that:

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Just because the sickos exist doesn't mean we should be forced to the same default wheel all the time. I'd argue thats already the problem with Sim Racing as is: Too much of the same thing and barely anything (Apart from focus, platform availability and price model maybe) to tell anyone apart anymore.
 
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Something that likely means nothing, but in some of the conversations you can have at the Café the people sometimes reference other cars not in the game.

There was one that stood out to me at the time though, when you speak to Jeremy with the BMW McLaren F1 Gr.2, in which he says at the end:

"Two years later, BMW settled the score in a way with its own Le Mans victory! But that's a story for another time."

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Foreshadowing the return of the BMW V12 LMR perhaps? It hasn't happened yet if it is. Like I say most of these references to cars not in the game are going to be unrelated to future content, but this one in particular stands out, to me at least.
It would be a welcomed return
 


This post is fast approaching its 1st anniversary and you can't exactly find these new beloved GT cars in the game. Starting from September 2022, which is the date of this post, I can only think of the WRC Celica and maybe the XJ220. Since "beloved GT cars" don't necessarily mean every returning car from my point of view, I'm not counting every single one added since then (which is also not that many of them lol).

Just like the opinion of most people here, the GT-One, the R390 and the JGTC NSX, for example, are exactly what we would consider these types of cars. Being a race car does add more to the nostalgic superstar value.

We started off in a pretty interesting pace, with the Escudo and the Skyline Silhouette being added one right after the other... but coming back to today's reality, not a single returning race car was added in 2023, and we're halfway through it.

I'm not saying Nenkai's wrong, of course he's not, I'm just saying this "new beloved GT cars" pace is surely damn slow. July might save it, or might not.

Maybe he also meant cars like the recent Lancer or Impreza?
 
As someone who despises seeing 4 lugnut wheels on cars that regularly feature centerlocks (why do people do this?), I'm going to provide multiple examples of why I strongly disagree with that:

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Just because the sickos exist doesn't mean we should be forced to the same default wheel all the time. I'd argue thats already the problem with Sim Racing as is: Too much of the same thing and barely anything (Apart from focus, platform availability and price model maybe) to tell anyone apart anymore.
There's not enough centerlock wheels at the moment either (between GTS to GT7 only one new centerlock wheel was added, the RAYS RW-GT3) and for older race cars, not enough period-correct ones. I would welcome more of them, even if it means "fake" centerlocks like the OZ Formula HLT:
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Anyone who's participated in the Gazoo Cup gets a free Corolla on the 28th of August, and it'll be purchasable in Brand Central from the end of September.

Seems like it's officially being added in the August update, so that frees up a slot for July's cars.
 
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