Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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Clinton Ducks
So it’s literally just those 3 cars? No new events or anything or would they not put that in the trailer?
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There are 2 new car menus, new VGT event nd new championship (3 races)with the Jimny, but the Bulgari will be available until february unless you buy the watch🤣🤣🤣
 
AutumnalGlow
Your response to "10.65% of cars in the game being VGTs is sad" is that it doesn't affect the game, by showing that 15.25% of cars added to the game since release are VGTs? That's an even higher rate of VGTs.
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ok but VGT's are not taking up slots of other cars that could of been brought into the game so the rate of VGT's is increasing
Famine
No VGT is taking the place of a real car you could have had instead. It's taking the place of... nothing.
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so again why sad? what's the issue
 
AlexWilmot
ok but VGT's are not taking up slots of other cars that could of been brought into the game so the rate of VGT's is increasing
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I don't really care that much about VGTs either way, but you do realize that this makes no sense? The modelers need to put their work into a VGT instead of a real car. Whether you want the VGT or not is irrelevant, it is work put into a VGT that could have been put into anything else.

For people who don't like VGTs, this is a bad thing.
 
All of this just stinks of PD not understanding what made Spec 2.0 such a good update. It was the slew of new races they added.

Especially with the Clubman Plus ones and the Chilli races which were actually challenging...

I'm not mad, just disappointed
 
AutumnalGlow
I don't really care that much about VGTs either way, but you do realize that this makes no sense? The modelers need to put their work into a VGT instead of a real car. Whether you want the VGT or not is irrelevant, it is work put into a VGT that could have been put into anything else.

For people who don't like VGTs, this is a bad thing.
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You should read the post from Famine really, it's not taking away time on putting efforts else where.
The conundrum of licensing is really the what the issue on the car's people want and not being worked on
 
AlexWilmot
52/488 cars in the Game are VGT's, 10.65% to be increased to 11% if the Genesis is just the one version ie. no race version as spotted in the background of the video trailer.

Just to note a lot of the VGT's have been carried over from GT Sport and GT6 & are made by the manufacturers, so that haven't taken away from PD making other cars
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Any asset carried over from older GT iterations or created from scratch takes up a given amount of PD's ressources. Obviously, using CAD data gives a head start to scanning a physical car, but implementing anything into the game is a process probaby handled by the developer and not the manufacturers.

None of the VGT making of videos I watched show the steps beyond the manufacturers design process and I couldn't find anything about how much ressources are needed by PD to make such assets game ready. But assuming PD invests no ressources at all seems far fetched to me.
 
ikon_313
Any asset carried over from older GT iterations or created from scratch takes up a given amount of PD's ressources. Obviously, using CAD data gives a head start to scanning a physical car, but implementing anything into the game is a process probaby handled by the developer and not the manufacturers.

None of the VGT making of videos I watched show the steps beyond the manufacturers design process and I couldn't find anything about how much ressources are needed by PD to make such assets game ready. But assuming PD invests no ressources at all seems far fetched to me.
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what's really far fetched is the idea that certain cars could rather be worked on when PD clearly don't have the license for them
 
AlexWilmot
what's really far fetched is the idea that certain cars could rather be worked on when PD clearly don't have the license for them
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What makes you think they don't have licenses that they aren't using? Heard of Pikes Peak?

Regardless, they definitely could get licenses instead of working on VGTs.

I get that they're not going anywhere, it's fine, but these arguments for why they don't affect anything or they can't do anything else are very weak.
 
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AutumnalGlow
What makes you think they don't have licenses that they aren't using? Heard of Pikes Peak?

Regardless, they definitely could get licenses instead of working on VGTs.

I get that they're not going anywhere, it's fine, but these arguments for why they don't affect anything or they can't do anything else are very weak.
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According to Kazunori Yamauchi they can do 60 cars a year.

According to GT7's actual updates, they're doing 33 cars a year. Well, almost: another three cars in February would make it exactly 35 a year.

The assumption that they could be doing something else but that the the Vision GTs (or any other car people don't like; it's VGTs this month) are taking up so much capacity that they simply can't do anything else is flawed.
 
Famine
According to Kazunori Yamauchi they can do 60 cars a year.

According to GT7's actual updates, they're doing 33 cars a year. Well, almost: another three cars in February would make it exactly 35 a year.

The assumption that they could be doing something else but that the the Vision GTs (or any other car people don't like; it's VGTs this month) are taking up so much capacity that they simply can't do anything else is flawed.
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I think no matter how it's framed, it's still resources put into a VGT instead of something else, even if they could have been swapped with any of the other cars that are being stored away for GT8, they would have just been added to GT8 instead.

I don't care either way. I don't have an issue with VGTs existing. My original point was just that "them being 10% of cars isn't bad, they're only 15% of added cars" was a bad way of making the 10% sound any better to someone who does dislike VGTs.
 
AutumnalGlow
I think no matter how it's framed, it's still resources put into a VGT instead of something else
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If there was something else to put resources into, they could as well. They can model almost twice as many cars as they are modelling.
 
Famine
If there was something else to put resources into, they could as well. They can model almost twice as many cars as they are modelling.
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Maybe you have more information than me, but it seems more believable to me that they are modeling around 60 cars per year, and saving around half for their next game.
 
RandomCarGuy17
So, they can do 5 cars per month if they wanted to. They're just choosing not to.
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This isn't really a bad thing. If they don't save up cars for GT8, imagine the mess when people discover GT8 doesn't have many new cars over GT7.

It is, however, a bad thing to drop a big update that boosts player count a lot, then go silent for months, and then drop a disappointing 2 car update.
 
I don’t really have a public opinion when it comes to updates but couldn’t help myself this time. This update stinks! 😆 I only hope they add wild g wagon and defender body kits for the jimny and not just a simple lip and skirt. I fear i am already getting my hopes too high…
 

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