Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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Nakano219
Three I can think of are the LFA, the Jimny, and the Silvia Touring Car.
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Seems like the F430 can be added to that list, too. Plus, as the 458's predecessor, it's a bit cheaper. That said, it would seem the Aston Martin Vantage S also counts, and is even more affordable.

EDIT: AFAIK the most affordable car I've been able to find so far is the Chevrolet Camaro SS '16, at a mere 35k credits - that is, barring the aforementioned GT Kart and the Suzuki Jimny.

EDIT2: Scratch that, looks like it's actually the Toyota Aqua S, which is technically even less than the Jimny.
 
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PSN offapple
The Safety Cars being used as Safety Cars
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Supposedly there is a form of Safety Car system that was found in the code, but was never implemented. I seem to recall one of the more obscure trailers of GT Sport showed an indicator for it displayed the same way that the yellow/blue flag pop-ups do in the middle of the screen.
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The safety car in that was simulated; a 17th driver was added to the race as a polesitter for that purpose.
 
Hey, uh, regarding the Daily Races, have they stopped using the dynamic ToD in them? Been noticing the skyboxes have that static look to them with the really detailed clouds, for the past several weeks now.

If so, why did they stop? Is it server stability or...? 'Cause seeing the dynamic ToD in online races was one of the things I was looking forward to in the lead-up to GT7's launch.
 
RandomCarGuy17
I counted every single event where you race against the A.I.. All special condition events, all regional halls, all leagues (beginner, professional, extreme), endurance hall, and the one-make events.

GT4 has 49 one-make events, 24 league events, 21 regional events, 33 Special Condition, and 16 endurance races. That amounts to 143 events. I count endurance races as their own thing since they're a challenge in themselves.

I didn't count every individual race though as I was just too lazy to do that.
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GT4 is not that much longer than GT7, then. GT4 and GT5 are the longest ones, with GT7 edging GT2/GT6 and nearly approaching GT3 in lenght while possibly reaching it with future updates. Am I correct?
 
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Raf997
GT4 is not that much longer than GT7, then. GT4 and GT5 are the longest ones, with GT7 edging GT2/GT6 and nearly approaching GT3 in lenght while possibly reaching it with future updates. Am I correct?
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Not quite. Kedmasterz confirmed over 400 races in GT4 while one users claimed 200 races and another claimed 274 races. Also if you look into individual single-player races; GT7 has 8-9 endurance events compared to GT4's 16. With GT4 having those endurance events at 4-24 hours long depending on the event. GT7's endurances iirc are all 1 hour long max. The only thing GT7 could make up for in length would oddly enough be the circuit experiences as some of them can take a long while to gold.

With that said, even with GT7 matching GT4 in length, I can't see the single player career being as compelling to play right now given how Polyphony Digital handles single-player race opponents. Given only a fraction of them have truly challenging A.I.
 
Lux Klonoa
Hey, uh, regarding the Daily Races, have they stopped using the dynamic ToD in them? Been noticing the skyboxes have that static look to them with the really detailed clouds, for the past several weeks now.

If so, why did they stop? Is it server stability or...? 'Cause seeing the dynamic ToD in online races was one of the things I was looking forward to in the lead-up to GT7's launch.
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They practically never used dynamic ToD or weather in the dailies. There's a few exceptions, but for the most part the daily races are very lazily set up.
 
RandomCarGuy17
Not quite. Kedmasterz confirmed over 400 races in GT4 while one users claimed 200 races and another claimed 274 races. Also if you look into individual single-player races; GT7 has 8-9 endurance events compared to GT4's 16. With GT4 having those endurance events at 4-24 hours long depending on the event. GT7's endurances iirc are all 1 hour long max. The only thing GT7 could make up for in length would oddly enough be the circuit experiences as some of them can take a long while to gold.

With that said, even with GT7 matching GT4 in length, I can't see the single player career being as compelling to play right now given how Polyphony Digital handles single-player race opponents. Given only a fraction of them have truly challenging A.I.
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Will GT7 at least be able to keep up with GT3, GT5 and GT6 in terms of sheer longevity once fully completed? Personally, I think it will exceed GT2 and GT6, while remaining slightly shorter than GT3. GT4 and GT5 will remain the most lenghty ones for a while until GT8 comes out, depending on how long GT8 ends up to be.
 
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Nebuc72
They practically never used dynamic ToD or weather in the dailies
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Well, actually, there were a lot of them using at least dynamic ToD in 2022 and 2023. I think it was around September or October 2023 that they started using the static skyboxes and never looked back since.

And it can't be the PS4 that's holding things back here since the Dailies don't have cross-play, so... Kinda weird. =/
 
Raf997
Will GT7 at least be able to keep up with GT3, GT5 and GT6 in terms of sheer longevity once fully completed? Personally, I think it will exceed GT2 and GT6.
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It's definitely exceeded GT6 in terms of length since GT6's "endurance" events are at most 30 minutes long and there's only 9 of them and I agree that it could exceed GT2 in career length. GT3 & 5 of course are another story due to GT3 having a lot of longer races in the late end plus 10 endurance events. GT5 does have less events overall than GT7 and a lot of GT5's career involve's having an A.I. driver win events. But the endurance events like with GT4 can go up to 24 hours in length.

There's flaw's with 7's career though, 48 of the events I counted are Circuit Experience; which to me are just more license tests & time trials. Not necessarily fun and unlike GT1-6, none of the endurance events in GT7 are repeatable except for the Spa 1 hour in GT World mode. They're just one & done events.
Raf997
GT4 and GT5 will remain the most lenghty ones for a while until GT8 comes out, depending on how long GT8 ends up to be.
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If PD doesn't learn from 7, I imagine GT8 will likely end up the same as GT7. A very underwhelming launch of a career mode while drip-feeding single-player events over 2-3 years instead of just releasing a lengthy career mode at the start.

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As I said though, regardless of 7's length; I don't even know if I'll find the career mode fun with how the A.I. is along with how unimaginative a lot of the events have been.
 
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I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed, but there's an error in the Fairlady 240ZG's tachometer function. I have a 432 and a ZG both maxed out on N/A builds and was wondering for the longest time why the ZG had such a low revving engine.

It turns out it's not.

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The above is the ZG at about 7,900 RPM (checked the replay from this to verify, it's in fact reading out 7900ish RPM from the game HUD). The in-car tach is reporting 6400 RPM.

The below is the 432 at the same engine speed.
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I think what happened is someone at PD copied and modified the 432's information to model the ZG and missed the tachometer data, so the ZG's needle is in the wrong place entirely - it is in the correct place for a 432 tach, but not a ZG tach. It's always been like this as far as I can tell.
 
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MIE1992
Minor question: does anyone know which cars are both available in Brand Central and have ten or more colors available? I know the go-kart is one of them, and I think the Ferrari 458 may be another.
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I don't know why, but these oddly especific questions always makes me curious :lol:
I'm also posting the ammount of credits you need to buy every color for each car

AMG
A 45 AMG '13 - 11 colors (704.000)
Mercedes-AMG GT S '15 - 11 colors (1.320.000)
Mercedes-AMG GT R '17 - 12 colors (2.208.000)
Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series '20 - 10 colors (4.200.000)

Amuse
Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - 14 colors (3.500.000)

Aston Martin
V8 Vantage S '15 - 32 colors (5.760.000)
DB11 '16 - 35 colors (8.330.000)
DP-100 VGT - 14 colors (14.000.000)

Audi
TT Coupé 3.2 quattro '03 - 19 colors (1.098.200)
TTS Coupé '14 - 11 colors (844.800)
R8 4.2 '07 - 10 colors (1.667.000)

BAC
Mono '16 - 12 colors (2.880.000)

BMW
M3 '03 - 12 colors (1.008.000)

Bugatti
Veyron 16.4 '13 - 29 colors (58.000.000)

Chevrolet
Camaro SS '16 - 10 colors (350.000)
Corvette C8 '20 - 12 colors (1.020.000)
Corvette C7 ZR1 '19 - 10 colors (1.340.000)

Dodge
Charger SRT Hellcat '15 - 11 colors (844.800)
Viper SRT Coupe '06 - 12 colors (1.560.000)
Challenger SRT Demon '18 - 30 colors (6.000.000)
SRT Tomahawk X VGT - 12 colors (12.000.000)
SRT Tomahawk S VGT - 10 colors (10.000.000)

Ferrari
F430 '06 - 17 colors (4.134.400)
458 Italia '09 - 26 colors (7.358.000)
F8 Tributo '19 - 26 colors (8.593.000)
F12berlinetta '12 - 16 colors (5.968.000)

Ford
Mustang GT '15 - 10 colors (443.100)
Shelby GT350R '16 - 27 colors (2.025.000)
Mustang Gr.3 Road Car - 10 colors (3.000.000)
Ford GT '06 - 21 colors (9.660.000)
Ford GT '07 - 16 colors (8.800.000)

Genesis
G70 3.3T AWD P.Package '22 - 17 colors (960.500)

Gran Turismo
Racing Kart 125 Shifter - 32 colors (320.000)
F1500T-A - 12 colors (1.000.000)

Honda
Honda Sports VGT - 10 colors (10.000.000)

Infiniti
INFINITI CONCEPT VGT - 12 colors (12.000.000)

Jaguar
F-type R '14 - 13 colors (1.671.800)

Lamborghini
Huracán LP 610-4 '15 - 19 colors (5.643.000)
Murciélago LP 640 '09 - 12 colors (4.627.200)
Aventador LP 700-4 '11 - 13 colors (5.200.000)

Lexus
LC500 '17 - 10 colors (1.500.000)
LFA '10 - 30 colors (45.000.000)

Maserati
GranTurismo S '08 - 19 colors (3.173.000)

Mazda
Demio XD Touring '15 - 10 colors (195.000)

McLaren
MP4-12C '10 - 17 colors (3.825.000)
650S '14 - 18 colors (6.120.000)

MINI
MINI Cooper S '05 - 12 colors (342.000)

Nissan
Silvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car - 12 colors (each with a different number, like the Honda Civic TC) (4.200.000)
NISSAN CONCEPT 2020 VGT - 11 colors (11.000.000)

Pagani
Huayra '13 - 25 colors (33.750.000)

Porsche
Cayman GT4 '16 - 12 colors (1.560.000)
Taycan Turbo S '19 - 10 colors (2.300.000)
917 LIVING LEGEND - 13 colors (13.000.000)
918 Spyder '13 - 12 colors (19.200.000)

Radical
SR3 SL '13 - 12 colors (1.518.000)

RUF
CTR3 '07 - 18 colors (16.200.000)

Suzuki
Jimny XC '18 - 12 colors (216.000)

Toyota
Aqua S '11 - 10 colors (179.000)

Volkswagen
Golf VII GTI '14 - 10 colors (383.300)

Zagato
IsoRivolta Zagato VGT - 10 colors (10.000.000)
 
At the granturismo.com "my page" you can see the following:

credits spent for cars
credits spent for customisation
credits spent for tuning

credits received

Is there anything else that credits are spent for or should a balance of these positions give your actual amount of credits in the bank?

I'm not in front of my Playstation for the next few days to check...
 
KAlex122
At the granturismo.com "my page" you can see the following:

credits spent for cars
credits spent for customisation
credits spent for tuning

credits received

Is there anything else that credits are spent for or should a balance of these positions give your actual amount of credits in the bank?

I'm not in front of my Playstation for the next few days to check...
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For me there's is a ~2.1 million difference when I do the calculation off the profile data, vs. my current ingame balance, there must be a metric that's not factured into these numbers
 
Credits spent on maintenance (maybe including engines/widebody, although they can get expensive quickly and may qualify as tuning/customisation respectively) and driving gear are likely not included.
 
I'm curious about how the game tracks driving time. I have a grand total of around 260 hours showing as the time played for GT7, but in the dashboard it says less than 100 hours of driving time. I don't think there's any possible way that I've somehow accumulated more than 150 hours of play time that isn't time spent driving. If I had to guess I'd say something like 80% of my time with the game has been spent on track driving...so closer to 200 hours than 100. Does time spent just doing laps in track time trials not count or something? Or does it only count the first time you run an event as driving time (lots of my time has been spent grinding Sardegna lol)?
 
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I have just watched again the Digital Foundry video about GT7 and...
I thought that with after release patch they just limited particles and removed small object on the track and grass on Trial Mountain (sticks, pine cones, small rocks etc.) but no.... They also downgraded surroundings by removing quite a lot of foliage. Right now that foliage is present only on the 30fps replays and photo mode, but at launch it was all present during gameplay.
Shame....
I hope they will bring those details back for GT8.
 
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Damn that wheel looks good. Also damn that wheel is expensive...

I would like to imagine it would be nice it came with a set of their higher end pedals too.

But I guess of you're willing to spend that much, you're upgrading your current setup or don't mind spending more on pedals.

Either way, it's out of my price range, so I imagine my opinion holds no value with the people who make these calls...
 
PSN offapple
Maybe it's just because I refresh this page a few times a day, but it feels very quiet regarding GT7 news lately.
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It’s that time of the month where we are done complaining about the last update and not quite ready to complain about the next one. Give it a week 😉

(There was also a new GT Wheel announced just now)
 

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