Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[o000o]

I love watching replays in GTS and hope you can fly a drone camera during a replay and record it. Or at least have multiple angles to choose from.

That Tsukuba scene looks kind of gross but Le Mans, for example, looks beautiful, imo. Maybe some tracks are finished and some are still a work in progress. Adding WIP footage to trailers is pretty common.

I too hope that the replay can have a free camera similar to Counter Strike's spectator mode. Probably if there are recording, someone can recreate something like, previous game intros with accurate camera angle.

 

[ArR29]

I love watching replays in GTS and hope you can fly a drone camera during a replay and record it. Or at least have multiple angles to choose from.

That Tsukuba scene looks kind of gross but Le Mans, for example, looks beautiful, imo. Maybe some tracks are finished and some are still a work in progress. Adding WIP footage to trailers is pretty common.

As much as I love to have that drone camera as a feature, GT engine isn't built for an open world game, it will expose the flaws of the visuals. The further you go the more pop in, low poly details you'll see. They certainly don't want the player to see all of those. It's a racing game meant to be played with first person or third person camera, so you can see the details up close.

 

[Mariangello]

I like what Poly want to do with GT7. That said, I'm not impressed by the graphics. I can't believe that Poly just can't make beautiful detailed tracks today. They went from the best to something too generic IMO. It's just common sense, why did they include this scene in the trailer?!! The gap between Forza Horizon and GT in terms of tracks details is ridiculous. 30 fps or not. I will buy GT7 for sure, but I know what to expect from Poly today. If they think it's good enough to show this scene in the most viewed Sony event of the year... that some low ambitions. This is at the same time sad and funny. Racing at Alsace track on my PS5




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I don't know why but it looks like unmodified port from gt5, 6. The trees cast no shadows and whole scene has low quality textures.
Can it be just a work-in-progress version?

 

[Losco]

How long before release did GTSport open up for pre-orders?

I believe it wasn't with a lot of lead time

Usually preorders are up immediatly after the release date is announced

Not everytime, but usually

 

[ravaline]

Gran Turismo is slowly switching from a video game to an automotive digital art museum where you can see past, modern and future cars with a feature to take them to a race track virtually. Even Ai is useless might as well remove it. Cars in Gran turismo are meant to be looked at and photographed. That's why the game doesn't even have damage.
Gran Turismo 8 will be an NFT. That's where the franchise is headed.

 

[mastretta_mx]

Usually preorders are up immediatly after the release date is announced

Not everytime, but usually

From Kaz last comment on the PS blog "more updates on the coming weeks" I would assume a SoP focused on GT7 could happen in the future with preorder info?? That would be my guess

 

[Dolby89]

Gran Turismo 8 will be an NFT. That's where the franchise is headed.

No idea what NFT is, but i assume we will take a look inside cars with VR by then. Like in a dealership.

 

[KayX23]

It is me or this side profile looks like a Nissan 370Z?

 

[Noname0529]

I get that people are worked up and have their own conclusions to draw but hey there's still 7 months before the game drops. I'd hold my breath for now 🤷‍♂️

 

[poumpoum]

I will probably be hated for this but here is my opinion about that trailer.

* Like a lot of us here I have really good memories about career modes in GT. But the whole concept was new at the time and, we were kids, focusing on trajectories wasn't our first priority, dive bombing with a car twice more powerful than our opponents was our way to go.. As we grow up, we really learn to how to drive, we buy a FFB Wheel, we try to overtake without touching your opponents and this is where I remember a different experience :

• Select a race / Select a car (similar to the others) / Do the race -> Damn that was so easy, let's try that again !
• Select a race / Select a car (with less power) / Do the race -> Damn that was still so easy, let's try that again !
• Select a race / Select a car (with less less power) / Do the race -> Damn my top speed is so slow compared to the first 3 cars it's impossible to win, let's try that again !
• Etc...

Without a proper AI this career mode has no sense anymore. I think it's really hard to develop good AI because physics engines are complex nowadays and they evolve through updates ! This is a nightmare for developers and I don't think they will ever address it. Racing against real people is the best solution, this is why GT Sport was an excellent move for the series. They could add a Sport mode career with the same limited season budget for everyone and we would have to manage all the purchases (tires, damage repairing, travel expenses, 2nd driver salary on the team...), a co-op mode where you can switch driver in the pitch... but going back to this old career mode is a mistake IMO -> it will never be fun again (except for kids).

* Before the cross gen announcement I was hopping for the "only one GT game with the PS4 gen" but no... They even did worse than GT6 (launching a game on a 7 years old console) with a launch on a 7.5 years old console. Consequences :

• The game doesn't look nex-gen at all
• Tracks still feel lifeless as ever
• Still no visual damage
• Weather effects seem really shy

* This is clearly a big DLC for GT Sport

* Not a single mention of the physics engine or tire model, I was really hopping something in this area with the Michelin partnership. RIP GT6 2013 trailer


This is the first GT trailer that doesn't hype me at all. Nothing is new or unexpected. GT felt old to me suddenly.

 

[o000o]

Gran Turismo is slowly switching from a video game to an automotive digital art museum where you can see past, modern and future cars with a feature to take them to a race track virtually. Even Ai is useless might as well remove it. Cars in Gran are meant to be looked at and photographed. That's why the game doesn't even have damage.
Gran Turismo 8 will be an NFT. That's where the franchise is headed.

If the car brand declined to let their car got damaged then what'd you say?

I get that people are worked up and have their own conclusions to draw but hey there's still 7 months before the game drops. I'd hold my breath for now 🤷‍♂️

You're automatically right and intelligent if you talk **** that's the belief held by ppl.

 

[ICEYOU3]

It would be cool if some of the game's used cars showed wear and tear.

 

[RetroJohan]

I hope we get an extended version of Moon over the castle we heard in the trailer

 

[Strittan]

I will probably be hated for this but here is my opinion about that trailer.

* Like a lot of us here I have really good memories about career modes in GT. But the whole concept was new at the time and, we were kids, focusing on trajectories wasn't our first priority, dive bombing with a car twice more powerful than our opponents was our way to go.. As we grow up, we really learn to how to drive, we buy a FFB Wheel, we try to overtake without touching your opponents and this is where I remember a different experience :

• Select a race / Select a car (similar to the others) / Do the race -> Damn that was so easy, let's try that again !
• Select a race / Select a car (with less power) / Do the race -> Damn that was still so easy, let's try that again !
• Select a race / Select a car (with less less power) / Do the race -> Damn my top speed is so slow compared to the first 3 cars it's impossible to win, let's try that again !
• Etc...

Without a proper AI this career mode has no sense anymore. I think it's really hard to develop good AI because physics engines are complex nowadays and they evolve through updates ! This is a nightmare for developers and I don't think they will ever address it. Racing against real people is the best solution, this is why GT Sport was an excellent move for the series. They could add a Sport mode career with the same limited season budget for everyone and we would have to manage all the purchases (tires, damage repairing, travel expenses, 2nd driver salary on the team...), a co-op mode where you can switch driver in the pitch... but going back to this old career mode is a mistake IMO -> it will never be fun again (except for kids).

* Before the cross gen announcement I was hopping for the "only one GT game with the PS4 gen" but no... They even did worse than GT6 (launching a game on a 7 years old console) with a launch on a 7.5 years old console. Consequences :

• The game doesn't look nex-gen at all
• Tracks still feel lifeless as ever
• Still no visual damage
• Weather effects seem really shy

* This is clearly a big DLC for GT Sport

* Not a single mention of the physics engine or tire model, I was really hopping something in this area with the Michelin partnership. RIP GT6 2013 trailer


This is the first GT trailer that doesn't hype me at all. Nothing is new or unexpected. GT felt old to me suddenly.

I don’t hate you. I’m just shaking my head, thinking you’re a spoiled, confused brat who doesn’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about, but that’s fine. You’re not alone.

The only thing I sympathize with in your post is the lack of damage bit. Other than that, I couldn’t disagree more.

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

Here is my in depth (41 minute) analysis of the newest trailer.

My thoughts on the trailer will be out tomorrow.

 

[Nielsen]

I don't understand why PD remakes High Speed Ring many times but Red Rock Valley never remakes. Personally, I prefer Red Rock Valley to High Speed Ring.

I don’t know, but High Speed Ring is legendary for its simplicity. It was the go to split screen multiplayer track for me and my homies in 1999. I hope PD hasn’t changed it too much for GT7…

 

[05XR8]

Think I'm looking forward to Daytona Road Course again. Hopefully, there is a true multi-class function. Not the Dream Car Championship kind of mix-match multi-class.

The RX-Vision road car will be welcome. Should have been in GT Sport at debut. Plus, more rotary powered cars.

Also, a brand loyalty type of rewards. Manu is a big thing in GT Sport. Rewarding players for acquiring specific brands(especially if that brand is partners with PD) and using them the longest, should grant rewards. A few different games have awarded brand loyalty/affinity to players. Be nice if PD have looked into that.

 

[rex1825]

...so, either PD did impossible, or they dropped FPS on PS4 consoles to 30FPS in order to get all the features as on PS5, where PS5 will probably have some other features, full 4k resolution, RayTracing etc. And of course, I presume there will be AMD FSR included

 

[Scaff]

Everyone after seeing that GT7 was Cross-Gen: Raises points about limited potential held back by 8 year old hardware
PD Casually revealing Variable Time and Weather potentially for said 8 year old hardware:

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Three Project Cars titles say hi...

 

[TS050]

Three Project Cars titles say hi...

None of which ran at a locked 60fps on a base PS4

 

[Scaff]

None of which ran at a locked 60fps on a base PS4

We haven't seen GT7 do that either yet on a base PS4, remember the last time PD had dynamic tod and weather.

 

[Vspectra]

Yeah I have doubts it's a stable 60fps on ps4, especially since they're also rendering volumetric procedural 3D clouds instead of skybox texture loops. Environment assets are still straight out of GTSport last-gen quality, but at least they didn't skimp on the dynamic features.

 

[Samus]

Information on the PS4 version is so far worryingly non-existent.

 

[QTheRacer_31]

Probably 30 FPS. ACC got away with it on PS4 and it wasn’t even a very good 30 FPS. See GT7 on PS4 as a teaser to get people to buy a PS5 and the 10$ upgrade

 

[regnar]

Well they did imply there going nostalgic, 6 car grid for the PS4

 

[Groot]

They spent more time on Scape and building a car museum than actual gameplay and graphics. Waited 8 years for this lol

 

[Strittan]

They spent more time on Scape and building a car museum than actual gameplay and graphics. Waited 8 years for this lol

Have you played it?

 

[TS050]

They spent more time on Scape

Do you actually, genuinely think that

a) they’d put more focus on a photo mode than the rest of the game

b) the people responsible for taking the photos used for scapes are responsible for the rest of the gameplay features

 

[BigSarj]

I think he is talking about the trailer.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I get that people are worked up and have their own conclusions to draw but hey there's still 7 months before the game drops. I'd hold my breath for now 🤷‍♂️

I just block them so I don't have to read it.