Well then I think GT7 is going to great for you which I’m happy for you.
I know what he said, I just think it’s dumb.
If you think a single lap is "long form gameplay", you are mistaken. We don't need a trailer for every track, and we don't need to know how good the game feels to play. What would be nice is some sense of the larger structure of the game. Show us a whole race. Show us a series or championship. Show us challenges or licences. Show us the online systems.
Technically nobody needs anything. It's an entertainment product.
It's hard to see how he's wrong based on the information we have. Maybe you wouldn't describe it like that, but I'd suggest that GT7 looks like a smaller change from GTS than GT5 1.01 to GT5 Spec II.
This.
Said this already last year, but its not a good sign that every GT game released in the past decade has had some major compromise attached to it holding it back.
Those events are for invited media only who will then get a specific date and time when they are allowed to release their information.
I'd count GT5 as compromised with it's large roster of last gen cars and shaky frame rate.
I fail to se how. What do you guys expect anyway? And what sort of change are you talking about? Change in visuals, in features, in physics or overall?
You can say theres hardly a career mode in GT Sport but is it objectively any worse than Gran Turismo 5? PD literally doubled the event list there by using Control-C and Control-V.
Fair enough. So GT7 is GT4, which is arguably the best game in the series. Great!
Agreed about GT Sport being a spinoff, I could see something like this existing alongside the mainline GT games instead of being treated as part of the series. In which, I think that's what ACC is supposed to be for Kunos while they work on Assetto Corsa 2, though I could be wrong on that.
I agree about having GTS as that ongoing spinoff(swear I’ve seen that line before… like someone was reading my mind).
Yeah, we got those already.
The problem is that GT4 was good for 2004. It turns out that game design has progressed over the last 17 years, and that the same game with fancy graphics wouldn't necessarily be considered very good.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...then it's a duck.
This is basically the crux of every argument about the 'past, present, and future' PR speak if we truly take it at face value instead of just dismissing it as that. The fact of the matter is that GT4 is almost old enough to buy liquor and cigarettes in most provinces in Canada. The fact that its gameplay loop still the fulcrum design of most of GT's single player content since then has left GT as a franchise in a weird sort of stasis where there isn't really any sort of meaningful pushing forward of gameplay loops where most other racing games, especially within its competition, have experimented and tried different things. At what point does Polyphony cut the cord and try something new? If I wanted to play GT4, I'd play it on my PS2. If I wanted an uprezzed 4K version of the game, by this point PCSX2 is available and able to be done since the actual feasibility of a remade or remastered game in GT4's scope and scale is nil because of the licenses involved.
Holy crud this man is on point. You’ve articulated this perfectly. We thank Kaz for starting the race for most of us but it’s seriously time to hand over or share the reigns with someone else and allow it to grow rather than retain the same format for decades to the point where it’s playerbase become jaded buttholes
On a technical level, every GT game has been an improvement on the one proceeding it. But I think you know that that isnt enough by itself.
maintains direct eye contact while dragging buttocks across grassThat reminds me Imari:
Get off my lawn, you whippersnapper!
It's interesting, because I feel like if Polyphony and Kaz had a game that they truly thought was a slam dunk they'd be talking about it a lot more. They weren't this shy about GTS - they believed that it was the future of their franchise and they told everyone exactly how great they thought it was.
A game from 2004 without the 2004 issues. I love GT4 when it comes to presentation, event variety, car list, track list and career mode but that's about it. Graphics, sounds, physics, car customisation, AI, damage (or rather lack thereof) and collisions don't stack up to modern standards. Most of these things still need a considerable amount of work to even bring it up to par with the competition. The old excuses won't fly anymore in the face of Assetto Corsa and Forza Horizon.
Again, likely because the insularity of Polyphony as a studio didn't tell them what was eventually told to them in droves right off the hop - that online racing as a complete, whole concept for a game is not what people want as the only thing in the game. Too bad Polyphony took that to mean 'back to the nostalgia!' like they have done with GT7.
If that's the case, then at least Kaz has learned not to simply shoot whatever thoughts he has from the hip to be written down by outlets who are more or less forced to put pen to paper to said thoughts because he has no desire to ever outline actual gameplay systems, and when challenged to obvious lies by omission in recent history, he simply just starts the process again. Small victories.
It's hard to say, really. Though lets be real...going by recent history within gaming, the fact that there's been little information to begin with isn't exactly boding well for a game that's out in a month's time.
Chasing the dragon of a thousand cars put the series in a major death spiral and gave birth to Standard cars in the rush to make that number a reality. Frankly, it should be an edict for Polyphony to never reach that point again if they value the general health of the series.
But really, 'starting over' is a misnomer, especially on the car front. We're still dealing with 30 different Miatas and Skylines that Polyphony have no desire to model the differences for, except now it's vehicles that are only separated by a model year, and are more or less the same, and race cars especially that are only on the car list because it makes the car list bigger to have them separate even if they are effectively different paintjobs that could be offered in the Dealership for people to use as a stock paint.
I really think both GT and FM need to get past the "here's a list of events, go nuts" style of career. I'll put up with a lot of bollocks from a game if it's got engaging gameplay and progression. Having some diversity and freedom is good and admirable, but not if it comes at the expense of making the game into a checklist of work to be done. Fundamentally that description could be true of most games, there's a bunch of stuff you have to do and that's it. But there are ways to try and disguise it and make it feel like the gameplay is something that you do because you're building to something greater.
