Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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Good news for the car list!
It seems that an Indian company helps Polyphony to model cars : https://www.izmoltd.com/

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oOK32m

"First car done for this Project 'Toyota Tundra TRD Pro' has been showcased in the trailer. I was responsible for creating Mid- poly models of Interior and Exterior. And also sculpting of cloth details of the Interior of the car. Other cars which I have worked on have not yet released."

A team works in India for Gran Turismo.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hansapallavi-srinivasan-39546815

3 months to model the Toyota if you read the comments.
"Thank you so much. It took nearly 3 months. We didnt get cad data .. we got the scan."
All together now, "PD, if you all are reading this, we can't tell the difference between an in-house or outsourced model. Thank you.".

Okay, this could mean double the carlist, depending if the outsource team have the same number as PD modellers. That's just this India team.
If the team that did the S660, are the same in number as the PD modellers, that would help reach the number of cars that could be added.

We have 338 cars in GT Sport. So far, two(S660 and Tundra) that we know of, have been outsourced. The A90 Supra was modelled by PD, during that car's real development. Mazda RX-VISION, we saw, really did take six months to debut. From sketch to ingame reveal, also by PD.

That Tundra link was a year ago. If PD ramped up outsourcing for a whole year with both studios, I think it's possible to have double the GT Sport car list.

The only BUT, is if it still takes six months in total. Three months for the interior. Three months for exterior and sign off. Or if it's six months for exterior, interior, physics(car performance). I don't know.
 
They showed a lot more of GTS at launch, with a pretty detailed page on the website covering what the game was about, and the features.

Plus that's kinda irrelevant now we've gone three months of silence, the other games didn't do that.



Or, you know, literally any information about features and content of the game. The menus give a vague idea, but that's all.

What they showed was clearly just GTS tarted up, with one track they could've made it in a few weeks. That and the menu mockups really don't tell us how far along the game is.
I would like to ask you a question (no offense intended) :

Why are you always so negative and why do you have to turn down every small evidence or sign about something good that might happen for GT7?
:)

Also yes we have information about the features and the content of the game (and quite a lot actually) :

GT Auto is coming back

Tuning shop is coming back

Tuning parts are coming back

Classic tracks such as Trial Mountain are coming back

We know most if not all of the tracks that will be in the game from Europe and the US

New mysterious GT Cafe

Kazunori Yamauchi said that GT7 will be a complete form of gran turismo with a big campaign mode

Driving School (probably licenses) are coming back

Used Car Dealership is coming back

Also what do you mean by saying 'vague idea'? We know what all of these things are except for the GT Café
 
Good news for the car list!
It seems that an Indian company helps Polyphony to model cars : https://www.izmoltd.com/

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oOK32m

"First car done for this Project 'Toyota Tundra TRD Pro' has been showcased in the trailer. I was responsible for creating Mid- poly models of Interior and Exterior. And also sculpting of cloth details of the Interior of the car. Other cars which I have worked on have not yet released."

A team works in India for Gran Turismo.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hansapallavi-srinivasan-39546815

3 months to model the Toyota if you read the comments.
"Thank you so much. It took nearly 3 months. We didnt get cad data .. we got the scan."
The page also mentions the Porsche 911 Carrera RS Club Sport.
 
And sorry but what you set as "facts" sound like "guessings" too.

How is it guessing?

It's a fact that GTS was announced in 2015, only two years after GT6. It's a fact it was released in 2017, four years total since GT6. There is therefore nothing to suggest Sony weren't happy with the speed of a hypothetical GT7 in 2015 and forced them to announce GTS. All evidence suggests GTS was their vision and they followed through with it.

It's not BS. GT7, as presented so far, makes at least one (that I can think of offhand) additional, heavy demand on the hardware - ray tracing. Then there's that new-fangled sound thingy, and so on.

Well yes but it doesn't need those things, does it?

I would like to ask you a question (no offense intended) :

Why are you always so negative and why do you have to turn down every small evidence or sign about something good that might happen for GT7?
:)

Also yes we have information about the features and the content of the game (and quite a lot actually) :

GT Auto is coming back

Tuning shop is coming back

Tuning parts are coming back

And how will these work in regards to the game at large. Which cars will be upgradable? How far? Will you need to progess in the career to unlock parts? Will you need mileage points like GTS?

Classic tracks such as Trial Mountain are coming back

Classic track singular so far, there is zero evidence of any others.

We know most if not all of the tracks that will be in the game from Europe and the US

No we don't, we know the tracks they've shown us. There is no way that is it.

Kazunori Yamauchi said that GT7 will be a complete form of gran turismo with a big campaign mode

So vague. Zero details about how it will work, if it will be like old games, GTS, new ideas entirely.

Driving School (probably licenses) are coming back

Vague.
Used Car Dealership is coming back

How will it work? What kind of cars will be in it? Will all cars be available used? Will there be some used only cars? Vague.

I'm not negative, I'm just being realistic and judging based on what we've actually seen, not what we can assume and guess about it. A few mockup menus and one track demo tell us very little.
 
Why are you always so negative

Their negativity isn't because they hate GT or Kaz or whatever - it's that they expect a lot more from a series that they may have played in the years past, and should do better considering the money and resources that comes from being one of Sony's biggest first party studios (if you look at Metacritic scores, GT as a series has been on a decline since GT4. That was 15 years ago).

Being overtly positive towards certain things could lead to laziness; developers will believe nothing is wrong, and won't change aspects of the game that might be in great need of improvement. Being negative, or at least open minded can at least communicate to the developers where their downfalls are, and how they can go about improving those aspects to make them considerably better in the next game
 
And how will these work in regards to the game at large. Which cars will be upgradable? How far? Will you need to progess in the career to unlock parts? Will you need mileage points like GTS?

Vague.
So far, it's seen that the upgradable parts use Credits, for the last question. And for Driving Mission/Licenses, it's not shown but the map menu shows it being there. unless you're refering to vague on how it works.
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Their negativity isn't because they hate GT or Kaz or whatever - it's that they expect a lot more from a series that they may have played in the years past, and should do better considering the money and resources that comes from being one of Sony's biggest first party studios (if you look at Metacritic scores, GT as a series has been on a decline since GT4. That was 15 years ago).

Being overtly positive towards certain things could lead to laziness; developers will believe nothing is wrong, and won't change aspects of the game that might be in great need of improvement. Being negative, or at least open minded can at least communicate to the developers where their downfalls are, and how they can go about improving those aspects to make them considerably better in the next game
Yeah but there's double standard of only allowing negativities, while any form of positivity is frowned upon. Blaming those that isn't only giving negativity for Gran Turismo just not being good enough is misplaced. Positivity argument can be nonsensical, but doesn't mean the same can't happen for negativity arguments which aren't that sound. Like there is some clear picking and choosing of factors to address in a game so large, but many won't give credit where credit is due.

The money and resource part is informed like for PS3, it's PD struggling with PS3's architecture (admittedly they mishandled the staff but still that hinders the progress). And that PD has only few number of employees that time, but it's also told some difference (dunno how they'll deliver with those though) that PD opened a new studio, on hiring spree, and outsourcing.
 
unless you're refering to vague on how it works

Yes exactly. I'm not being negative, I'm just saying we have very little data on GT7 so far. Even the menus are not cast iron guarantees of final content, don't forget they're WIP and we saw the same with GTS, menu mockups showing things that didn't make the final game.

GT-Sport-1.jpg
 
How is it guessing?

It's a fact that GTS was announced in 2015, only two years after GT6. It's a fact it was released in 2017, four years total since GT6. There is therefore nothing to suggest Sony weren't happy with the speed of a hypothetical GT7 in 2015 and forced them to announce GTS. All evidence suggests GTS was their vision and they followed through with it

Guessing that I'm wrong with my opinion.

À few factual events does not prove that on the background story I'm wrong.

Left clues from obvious events do not always reflect it is the actual reality of what happened backstage.

Unless you are able to prove me that Sony never hurry Polyphony Digital to release something, you might continuously go on to twist my words from post to post.
 
Guessing that I'm wrong with my opinion.

À few factual events does not prove that on the background story I'm wrong.

Left clues from obvious events do not always reflect it is the actual reality of what happened backstage.

Unless you are able to prove me that Sony never hurry Polyphony Digital to release something, you might continuously go on to twist my words from post to post.

I never said you're flat out wrong. I said there was no evidence to support the theory.
 
Good news for the car list!
It seems that an Indian company helps Polyphony to model cars : https://www.izmoltd.com/

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oOK32m

"First car done for this Project 'Toyota Tundra TRD Pro' has been showcased in the trailer. I was responsible for creating Mid- poly models of Interior and Exterior. And also sculpting of cloth details of the Interior of the car. Other cars which I have worked on have not yet released."

A team works in India for Gran Turismo.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hansapallavi-srinivasan-39546815

3 months to model the Toyota if you read the comments.
"Thank you so much. It took nearly 3 months. We didnt get cad data .. we got the scan."
This is great news. But anyone notice that there's inconsistencies in the car modelling in GTSport? Not even sure if that's modelling issue or LOD bug. It seems to me the premium cars in GT5/6 was far more consistent.
 
Yes exactly. I'm not being negative, I'm just saying we have very little data on GT7 so far. Even the menus are not cast iron guarantees of final content, don't forget they're WIP and we saw the same with GTS, menu mockups showing things that didn't make the final game.

GT-Sport-1.jpg
Though yeah, what he said was only GT Auto, Tuning Parts, License, Used Cars, etc. returning, he didn't specify on how it works. It's true that those features are returning, which seemingly only the point he made.
 
Though yeah, what he said was only GT Auto, Tuning Parts, License, Used Cars, etc. returning, he didn't specify on how it works. It's true that those features are returning, which seemingly only the point he made.

I know, but in turn I did word my original post he replied to carefully.

or literally any information about features and content of the game

So yeah, we're basically saying the same thing. We know what features are likely to be included, what we don't have is any clear information about said features and content.

Which is essentially why we've all been babbling mostly rubbish for the past few months. The waiting game continue.
 
Nissan are unveiling their 400z on Wednesday. Sony ps5 event on Wednesday.

Possibility GT7 unveiling the 400z in game given the nissan/GT relationship?
I thought the same, but the Nissan Z reveal is like 4 hours after the GT7 reveal. I do think its going to be the cover car though, if it isn't one of the GTVision's.
 
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