Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[Pfei]

Also, I would like to know how these leagues work. If you're constantly against the same few people, does that mean there's an expectation to all coordinate a time to race together, or is it like a wider thing where you race from amongst a larger constant pool of drivers of similar SR & DR?

I wouldn't look too much into this. To me it seems nothing more than dividing the participants into separate tiers. The only change I see it causing is for there to be hard cutoffs between DR levels. For example, there would never be a room mixed with A & B drivers. A+ and A, yes, that would be possible.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

I didn’t know that was a staggered release. Hopefully I’ll have time to do some single player stuff to get enough spending money first!

 

[syntex123]

Abit off-topic, but would anyone happen to know what the font of the text is?

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whatthefont.com. Super tool.

Dinoco's all mine.

Not if I can get to it first! * rubs hands *

 

[NikNakTobasco]

I wouldn't look too much into this. To me it seems nothing more than dividing the participants into separate tiers. The only change I see it causing is for there to be hard cutoffs between DR levels. For example, there would never be a room mixed with A & B drivers. A+ and A, yes, that would be possible.

I wouldn't look too much into this. To me it seems nothing more than dividing the participants into separate tiers. The only change I see it causing is for there to be hard cutoffs between DR levels. For example, there would never be a room mixed with A & B drivers. A+ and A, yes, that would be possible.

But this is exactly what happens now. Even when my SR was in the 80s I was going into rooms with A+ and D drivers all mixed up.

 

[o000o]

These leaks of gameplay are a bit scary, I have to confess! It seems sooo similar to previous iterations...in a bad way. The IA level is really terrifying. I don't understand how they can fail at doing something better than this. Will the game be a challenge before the last stages , when you get access to the fastest cars?

And that video on GT7 / Real life comparison at Willow Springs is pretty bad too...

Not failing but not completed/delivered yet I guess. They're preparing something like this (AI called GT Sophy, who actually, beat the top players of GTS when pitted against them):
https://www.gtplanet.net/how-gran-t...olyphony-digital-and-sony-ais-new-technology/
But they did say that it won't be available at launch.

 

[Pfei]

But this is exactly what happens now. Even when my SR was in the 80s I was going into rooms with A+ and D drivers all mixed up.

That's because SR is the dominant matchmaking meter. And those rooms have lower points payouts. The solution is to get your SR back to 99 before one of these league championships start which is a very easy task.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Not failing but not completed/delivered yet I guess. They're preparing something like this (AI called GT Sophy, who actually, beat the top players of GTS when pitted against them):
https://www.gtplanet.net/how-gran-t...olyphony-digital-and-sony-ais-new-technology/
But they did say that it won't be available at launch.

The chances that they’ll simply swap out the AI to Sophy is near zero. Apart from anything else they’d have to completely rebuild the career mode. Chase the rabbit won’t be much fun against a quick field. If Sophy does arrive it’ll probably be a ‘beat Sophy’ challenge or something.

 

[Samus]

Not failing but not completed/delivered yet I guess. They're preparing something like this (AI called GT Sophy, who actually, beat the top players of GTS when pitted against them):
https://www.gtplanet.net/how-gran-t...olyphony-digital-and-sony-ais-new-technology/
But they did say that it won't be available at launch.

They also haven't said it'll be available as regular AI, because it almost certainly won't. They said it'll be used to train or as a "friend" to "race with you", not against you. There is no explicit "This will become the default AI in GT7".

 

[syntex123]

I hope Sophy will learn your playstyle too. So that when you race online and rage quit.. Sophy takes over. I hate lobby racing that starts with 16 people. Ten laps later maybe three finish the race. Very discouraging to continue racing then

 

[Samcastor]

Just because I like to blow minds, the time between the very first Volkswagen Golf hitting the roads and the launch of Gran Turismo 1 is less than the time between the launch of GT1 and the launch of GT7.

Not related to GT but also Cleopatra lived closer to us than she did to the Giza pyramids

 

[Maximum11]

Not failing but not completed/delivered yet I guess. They're preparing something like this (AI called GT Sophy, who actually, beat the top players of GTS when pitted against them):
https://www.gtplanet.net/how-gran-t...olyphony-digital-and-sony-ais-new-technology/
But they did say that it won't be available at launch.

I only trust what I'm buying =) With these PD guys it will take years to get Sophy on Gran Turismo. Remember how they advertised VR on GT Sport? In the end it was pretty much yourself alone on a track with lowered visual quality if I remember correctly. They relied a lot on GT Sport to sell VR...

 

[Samus]

I see people are still getting massively carried away with Sophy, here and across the wider internet.

Literally the first bullet point on what the concept of Sophy will be is "Friend, Comrade, Buddy".

How it will appear. Note "As up to 19 super fast AI competitors across the campaign mode" is not listed.

 

[o000o]

The chances that they’ll simply swap out the AI to Sophy is near zero. Apart from anything else they’d have to completely rebuild the career mode. Chase the rabbit won’t be much fun against a quick field. If Sophy does arrive it’ll probably be a ‘beat Sophy’ challenge or something.

Then it'd be completely unfair (on player's side) for B-Spec. Because B-Spec is stated to use Sophy as the AI you control (also stated in that post).

Also there are races with grid starts like Clubman Cup Plus.

 

[syntex123]

I see people are still getting massively carried away with Sophy, here and across the wider internet.

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Literally the first bullet point on what the concept of Sophy will be is "Friend, Comrade, Buddy".

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How it will appear. Note "As up to 19 super fast AI competitors across the campaign mode" is not listed.

"Sportspersonship".

 

[regnar]

The announcement of GT8 will probably occur before/if SOPHY is added to the game

 

[Samus]

Because B-Spec is stated to use Sophy as the AI you control.

Again, you're jumping ahead. He said he wouldn't rule out the possibility, he didn't bluntly say it'll definitely happen. He's had countless ideas and plans over the last 20 years that never happened. Clearly if this is something to happen they haven't even started on it yet besides simple considerations of possibilities.

“Sophy will probably appear in front of the player in three forms,” Yamauchi-san explained. “As a teacher that will teach driving to players, a student that will learn sportsmanship from players, and as a friend to race with. I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of a B-Spec mode, where the player is the race director and Sophy is the driver.”

 

[ICEYOU3]

So happy Polyphony are not slacking on the American front this time around. The ZR1 is kind of surprising.

@ProjectF what's so funny?

 

[Gunma36]

If I'm disappointed by the AI, I'll just enjoy GT for the feeling it gives in driving the cars and modding them with the new tools. If it hasn't changed until now, then I'm afraid we can't expect any better offline races.

 

[MIE1992]

I feel like we’re all forgetting the quite likely possibility of a day one patch, just as we saw with GT6 and I think Sport as well. Let alone additional post-launch updates that could very well add a lot more than cars and tracks.

Remember, nobody’s technically supposed to be playing the game yet.

 

[ThePotatoKing]

I just want them to go back to the proper racing in GT1-4 plus 5 until PD nerfed the AI.

Wasn't the AI already in Gran Turismo 4 terrible ? Barely any better than what we have today in GT Sport.

 

[Auditore]

I see people are still getting massively carried away with Sophy, here and across the wider internet.

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Literally the first bullet point on what the concept of Sophy will be is "Friend, Comrade, Buddy".

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How it will appear. Note "As up to 19 super fast AI competitors across the campaign mode" is not listed.

The friend in races is such a vague description,and if PD can program sophy into single player races why not take out their outdated AI?We already know Sophy can scale based on difficulty levels thanks to the GtPlanet interview.

 

[VR DRIVER]

Remember how they advertised VR on GT Sport? In the end it was pretty much yourself alone on a track with lowered visual quality if I remember correctly. They relied a lot on GT Sport to sell VR...

Yes thats right and they sold the PSVR Headset even with an oficial GT Sport bundle back then. This was a complete missleading marketing.

 

[Nuschel01]

I have a great group of friends to race online with, offline career will only be played through once to get all free stuff and replayed in case of money missing to buy certain cars.

 

[Samus]

I feel like we’re all forgetting the quite likely possibility of a day one patch, just as we saw with GT6 and I think Sport as well. Let alone additional post-launch updates that could very well add a lot more than cars and tracks.

Remember, nobody’s technically supposed to be playing the game yet.

Nobody is forgetting anything, a day one patch is not going to make huge changes just as the day one patch for GT6 didn't add better sounds as some claimed it would, and the GTS day one patch didn't add another 100 cars like people thought it would.

It'll fix and change things for sure, but nothing fundamental. If they didn't program good AI in 3+ years of development they're not suddenly going to manage it in the last month after going gold.

"It'll come in an update" seems to be a constant attempted rebuttal to valid issues here lately. Nothing about the future is confirmed. Comment on what we have now, not what we might (or might not) get in future.

The friend in races is such a vague description,and if PD can program sophy into single player races why not take out their outdated AI?We already know Sophy can scale based on difficulty levels thanks to the GtPlanet interview.

I would imagine it means you can follow one AI Sophy to learn lines, braking points, general racecraft etc.

 

[Scaff]

The friend in races is such a vague description,

Indeed it is.

and if PD can program sophy into single player races why not take out their outdated AI?

In a specfic build of GTS, for limited cars and limited tracks. Even building the current version into a consumer product is a way off

We already know Sophy can scale based on difficulty levels thanks to the GtPlanet interview.

Can doesn't mean it's been done, and it was made quite clear it hasn't been done. It's one of a number of reasons why adding Sophy into a consumer product is a way off (and in that I mean it's likely a couple of years at least).

 

[Auditore]

I would imagine it means you can follow one AI Sophy to learn lines, braking points, general racecraft etc.

That's "Coach of driving".
Friend in Races made me thibk of an ally/rival system but that sounds more like a GT8 feature

 

[GTP_reddevil]

Wasn't the AI already in Gran Turismo 4 terrible ? Barely any better than what we have today in GT Sport.

Unless you have the AI a similar to that of the Gran Turismo 4 One-Make Event: Speedster Trophy…

 

[Samus]

That's "Coach of driving".
Friend in Races made me thibk of an ally/rival system but that sounds more like a GT8 feature

Who knows, but either way "Friend in racing" is certainly not competetive AI as some people seem to believe is going to happen. So many videos and comments on YouTube of people saying that Sophy is going to completely change the AI in the game that we race against, it's not. Not yet, anyway, sadly.

 

[NICKname]

Not related to GT but also Cleopatra lived closer to us than she did to the Giza pyramids

Cleopatra lived closer to the introduction of the VW Golf than she did to the release of GT1.

 

[Nuschel01]

Remembering GT4 I found the AI in the Tsukuba rain race ridiculously hard to beat (and all other missions tbh). However that was ~15 years ago I only managed to win the Tsukuba race by absolutely annihilating the leader in the hairpin cutting the grass at full speed and sending him to the shadow realm