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@mynameis66, I hope this answers your question.
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After doing some races, i was wondering if the game had rubberbanding, so i did some tests using clubman cup.
I used a car that was well under the PP and i also did a race that was on the limit of 350PP.
The AI driver stark was doing laps of around 1:51-1:52 every single time.
The driver i used used for this test was called D.Stark, 2 runs i raced flat out and 2 where i dropped back. My conclusion from this was zero rubberbanding.
Im sure it could change further in but i dont see why it would.. hope this pleases some.
BTW, the game so far meets my expectations and i love it.
I used a car that was well under the PP and i also did a race that was on the limit of 350PP.
The AI driver stark was doing laps of around 1:51-1:52 every single time.
The driver i used used for this test was called D.Stark, 2 runs i raced flat out and 2 where i dropped back. My conclusion from this was zero rubberbanding.
Im sure it could change further in but i dont see why it would.. hope this pleases some.
BTW, the game so far meets my expectations and i love it.
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Gambling's not forced, it's still a societal problem, and certainly does cause harm.
MT's are not much better in that regard, forced or not
'My son spent £3,160 in one game'
As politicians call for more regulation, you share your stories about children spending money within games.
www.bbc.co.uk
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I'm not questioning what other people do with their money so much as I'm wondering why they're OK with it existing when the other option is....it just doesn't. You point to it being optional and there for people that don't have the time to grind, so why aren't you bothered that those are the two options the game is providing when there are better alternatives?
Like I said, why don't they put a car pass on the store for 10 or 20 dollars that gives people instant access to all the cars if they want it? Why do you support gouging people that don't have the time to grind? If someone hasn't got the time to grind for 20M credits and wants to drive one of those cars they are going to be paying $220 US for that one car via these MTs. Why do you support that? Just because it doesn't affect you? I could be a millionare that has no issue paying $2000 dollars for all the cars, I still wouldn't support it.
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...Not yet unfortunately, I guess these cars show up as soon as you boot up the game.
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Making mountains of optional mole hills? No surprises here. 
Looking forward to racing, see you on the track all!
Looking forward to racing, see you on the track all!
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That's very good to hear. I still don't understand why rubberbanding continues to be a thing in so many titles.
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Yeah not gonna lie, with GT having a pretty large younger playerbase, I hope some parents keep an eye on their children's in-game activity... Don't want little Joey spending a week's worth of shopping so he can buy a limited time FXXKGambling's not forced, it's still a societal problem, and certainly does cause harm.
MT's are not much better in that regard, forced or not
'My son spent £3,160 in one game'
As politicians call for more regulation, you share your stories about children spending money within games.www.bbc.co.uk
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I can only speak for GT Sport where the difference between SSD and HDD was not much. It showed that the extra speed of the SSD didn't make much difference in that game.
I just watched the GT 7 loading there, I never saw loading times as huge as that in GT Sport, so it makes me wonder what it's doing differently, given it's basically the same game engine. Anyway it doesn't bother me, I won't be getting it.
I have absolutely zero problem with that. It's putting cars solely behind huge credit barriers that take hours and hours to earn or pushing them towards MTs instead I take issue with and I honestly thought that was an opinion shared across gaming as a whole when MTs started getting phased out a few years ago across the industry because of backlash. Yes, they are still around but not nearly as prevalent as 5 years ago.
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It's not that hard to remove payment details from an account, remove them after each transaction is made and require an OTP for each transaction on PSN, I seriously don't understand why some parents don't think of these things.Yeah not gonna lie, with GT having a pretty large younger playerbase, I hope some parents keep an eye on their children's in-game activity... Don't want little Joey spending a week's worth of shopping so he can buy a limited time FXXK
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Yeah I was half-joking there really, it is true that some parents are very irresponsible when it comes to that though...
I remember for the OG XBox (I think it was), I used my parent's card to buy some DLC... That was not a fun day for child me when they found out
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It should scale with game progress. At the start of the game, it should indeed take hours and hours to earn 20M. By the end of the game after completing everything it has to offer via progression, I don't know, 20 minutes? 45 minutes? Seems reasonable. Certainly not circa 12 hours as it is in GT Sport.
Just like in a RPG at the start of a game if you keep killing the same little enemy over and over at the start it is going to take forever for XP/money to build up, but by the end you'll be able to easily kill huge monsters that give out a ton of XP/money.
Yes, GT games do scale but in the case of GTS, not nearly enough. It remains to be seen how far it scales in GT7.
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You do not need to own every car in the game. I think you are really conflating progression on a game with what you want to do. The game is not designed to give you every car, it is designed to make you want every car. You want more cars? Then the game's systems are working as intended. By your logic, every game should give me all the skills/equipment at the get go as I paid for them right? Similarly trophies should just be unlocked simply by buying the game?
There is a discussion to be had with how the economy is tuned against how MTs are positioned but currently, the game has not really deviated from its previous iterations of its economy even after MTs were introduced. You want a different model for this game and that is fine but you must recognize that giving you all the cars to drive straight away is not the objective of this game.
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I think Samus needs a time out so this thread can get back on track. The last handful of pages are all about him.
You're obviously not reading my posts if that's what you think my logic is. I want the four 20m cars in GTS, I can't obtain them without grinding events for about 48 hours in total, longer if I don't just stick to the same single META event.
It's not about giving me everything on a plate, it's about how reasonable the time and effort required is to earn everything vs being tempted to instead pay even more money.
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Gambling's not forced, it's still a societal problem, and certainly does cause harm.
MT's are not much better in that regard, forced or not
'My son spent £3,160 in one game'
As politicians call for more regulation, you share your stories about children spending money within games.www.bbc.co.uk
If the raffle tickets are able to be purchased by real money (or even in game credits because you can buy credits with real money), then we have a big problem. So big that it might even be illegal in some parts of the world.
If raffle tickets are not available for purchase by credits or real money, then the most damage a financially irresponsible person can do to themselves is limited.
I know a guy who spends about $5000 a year on sticky bombs in GTS because when he runs out of sticky bombs, he goes and buys more.
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I think that's a fair thing to want, and like you said, we don't know how much we'll be earning in the later stages of GT7, so you could very well get your wish. But, I do think there is something to be said for a racing game having those 20M credit halo cars that give you something to work for. IMO, they shouldn't be easy to get, whether we're talking game progression or real money. They should be at least a little exclusive. I remember taking hours to save up for the Audi R8 in GT4 and being so proud of myself once I did it. I like games that give you the option of setting little mini-goals like that.
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PS4 was bottlenecked by it CPU to stream data from the drive, the potential read/write speed of the SSD really did not matter much. As GT Sport was built for HDDs initially, it is possible the game is coded to not stream data as fast as new SSDs allow or even just wait before doing something even if everything is loaded like some other games.
I apologise but if people are going to keep replying to me with open ended points or questions I'm going to reply back. This only started because I voiced my opinion against MTs and several people railed back against me. They always have the option to just let my opinion sit there and not reply to it.
I get it though, I'll drop it for now.
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