Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[kjeldsen]

I find it hilarious how you still have the eternal optimism even after it has been incredibly, evidently clear thar Kaz has lied, really since 2005, and will lie and obfuscate to protect himself from criticism about said lying.

To be frank, we have no idea what form of 'higher payout' races are coming. We have no idea what kind of 'difficulty' settings are coming, and it sure as hell isn't going to be Sophy in a suit of shining armour.

To say this with the confidence you have goes to show how easily you are lead.

Did you buy the game?

 

[Silver Arrows]

Started my first bit of grinding today with the high speed ring. I could only stomach two races. It was so boring with plain idiotic rubber banding and moronic AI. Sorry, but doing that for 3 hours straight isn’t going to happen. I’ll try some other races and see if there’s anything more tolerable but the quickest credit option seems like the most appealing right now.

Another knock on effect from all this: if Polyphony actually bothered to make decent AI (and maybe learn a few lessons from other devs with lesser resources then they do) then the grinding maybe wouldn't be as bad, if people had actually good AI to race against in an ostensibly single player game. No matter how many times people pull out the excuse of going online to face halfway decent competition.

 

[-Fred-]

Okay, that argument failed as well. At least half of it.

In your experience, would you find both games comparable in their economies and how they implement rewards?

I personally don't, because in Forza Motorsport you can get rewarded for simply showing up to a race... in Forza Horizon you get rewarded (in XP at least) for knocking down lamp posts. Obviously, extreme hyperbole, take with a grain of salt.

They're all fun in their own ways. I just find players that come from the Forza franchise a bit more entitled or spoiled. Not to say their arguments aren't valid, because they hit the nail on the head sometimes regarding GT7.

No, they're definitely not even close to being comparable. The earlier Forza games maybe, but FM7 in particular is very keen on rewarding you, at least now that the game reached EOL and they've fixed all the stupid stuff it came out with. For comparison's sake I'm going to exclude Horizon from the equation as it's not the same kind of game, but in FM7, aside from the race payouts:

-If you bought the VIP pack you get double credits for every race.

-You get credits rewards everytime you boot up the game from your Drivatar appearing in other people's races, usually not a very big amount, but still. Back when that was still a thing you also had ForzaHub that tracked your progress through the whole franchise (IE all titles) and paid you accordingly every week.

-You get credits rewards for every downloaded tune/design you have, if you're good like @PJTierney you can make millions and millions just by painting cars.

-Rivals mode as I pointed out earlier gives out a bonus that varies on distance travelled (I just did some tests, it's roughly 5k per lap at Laguna Seca, 3k at Lime Rock and 13k at Le Mans)

-Online races also give you payouts.

-Forzathon also gives out payouts for completing x amount of races weekly, and cars as well.

-Mod cards have % rewards of the total race payout for turning off certain driving aids, changing grid positions and whatnot, these can be pretty serious bonuses depending on the "rarity" of the card. You can apply 3 cards every race, and you can effectively get 300% bonus earnings.

-Everytime you level up you get 3 choices; a car, some credits or some mod cards.

So yeah, money comes by very easily, and there's virtually no credit limit (it stops at 999,999,999) On top of all of that, the most expensive car in FM7 is the Bugatti Chiron, at 1.55 million, which is basically chump change. And with close to 850 cars if you have all the DLC, it means you can spend as you wish without fear of getting broke.

And I'm totally fine with it. Because in the end I get to drive cool stuff around cool places, and I can do it with minimal effort, meaning I can spend more time driving cool stuff around cool places.

 

[RedRockValley]

Another knock on effect from all this: if Polyphony actually bothered to make decent AI (and maybe learn a few lessons from other devs with lesser resources then they do) then the grinding maybe wouldn't be as bad, if people had actually good AI to race against in an ostensibly single player game. No matter how many times people pull out the excuse of going online to face halfway decent competition.

Let’s not forget making Custom Races actually pay well. I think if that was a thing people wouldn’t be so miffed with the game’s current state.

 

[Nebuc72]

Let’s not forget making Custom Races actually pay well. I think if that was a thing people wouldn’t be so miffed with the game’s current state.

That, and online races. If i play exclusively online, I'd have to win about 100 races for a million. It's ridiculously bad.

 

[Skinny McLean]

if Polyphony actually bothered to make decent AI (and maybe learn a few lessons from other devs with lesser resources then they do) then the grinding maybe wouldn't be as bad

But then people would be racing instead of buying credits. Please think of the shareholders instead of only focusing on yourself.

 

[HarVee]

Chariots of Fire is so annoying. Why is that song playing when you reach book 39? Now all I can think of is Dunder Mifflin paper co.

 

[Johnnn]

Another knock on effect from all this: if Polyphony actually bothered to make decent AI (and maybe learn a few lessons from other devs with lesser resources then they do) then the grinding maybe wouldn't be as bad, if people had actually good AI to race against in an ostensibly single player game. No matter how many times people pull out the excuse of going online to face halfway decent competition.

To be fair, PS4 is very bad console and it's a miracle it can run GT7. AI is probably the compromise they needed to do.

Chariots of Fire is so annoying. Why is that song playing when you reach book 39? Now all I can think of is Dunder Mifflin paper co.

You need to hurry to the end and open your wallet then. They have their strategies...

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

No money spent official Introduction.

Starting with short term including no grind spent and 11:24 onwards is long term.

 

[Nowax]

AI is probably the compromise they needed to do.

Nah. PS2 racing games had better AI.

 

[Sage Ages]

I be forgetting this game is like two weeks old sometimes

 

[Sage Ages]

To be fair, PS4 is very bad console and it's a miracle it can run GT7. AI is probably the compromise they needed to do.

That's a damn lie, the Clubman+ AI be beating my ass all day.

 

[samppa_944]

Tbf. The grid start AI, or AI in races where you start midpack is decent. Yes, easy for me as a high A DR player. But for slightly slower drivers, or when you run a suboptimal car even with max allowed PP, not easy. No such thing in GTS, let's face it. This is a big improvement. Goes for Gr3 cups etc., Those non menu book races.

That's a damn lie, the Clubman+ AI be beating my ass all day.

 

[Neddo]

I know this isn't really the time to ask about this but i don't recall seeing the CTR Yellowbird or RGT 4.2 in the game. Is this like adding RUF parts to the 911s in the game? or is this a possible hint at future updates?

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This reminds me of GTS credits that had multiple Lambos like Reventon, Murcielago, Gallardo and others. If there was no Corona, I think all of these would appear in GTS.

Can be already in game but didn't appear in UCD yet?

CTR Yellowbird could be in Antique shop, too. But RGT 4.2 is newer model which would end up in Brand Central.

 

[regnar]

One thing I'm not sure how PD are going to handle, when Yamauchi starts to tweet out silhouettes of cars for new DLC & everybody gets excited, when it gets released, are these used cars or historic cars,
going to be absorbed into some dark realm where they don't show up in the car lots for months or year or two unable to purchase.

 

[mwoodski]

McLaren F1 street car into the Legends Dealer today at an eye-watering 18,500,000cr!

Toyota Levin, Ruf CTR3, Murcielago LP640, and the Abarth 500 into the UCD.

 

[MrNukki]

McLaren F1 street car into the Legends Dealer today at an eye-watering 18,500,000cr!

Bruh... Why.

 

[Nebuc72]

PD are absolute master trolls, oh my god. One whole day after the entire gaming internet melting down about credits and MTX they decide "you know what will REALLY destroy em? stick in the 18.5 million credit car"

They certainly aren't backing down.

 

[JoaoSilva]

18,500,000 Cr. for a Mclaren F1? Literally 18x more expensive than Sport, how the hell is a player going to afford it through normal progression?

I've put 92 hours into GT7 and only ever got 15M Cr in total, I swear this is some sick joke at this point.

They slash the credit income in half then slap the most expensive car yet in the dealership, this isn't a coincidence.

 

[mwoodski]

Hey, it's still 2,000,000cr cheaper than the most expensive one to ever sell at auction!

 

[RedRockValley]

They slash the credit income in half then slap the most expensive car yet in the dealership, this isn't a coincidence.

"Stop whining jeez, you guys complain way too much, kids these days don't want to work for anything, I'm still going to enjoy this game regardless, thank you Kaz!" etc etc.

 

[mwoodski]

The ultimate troll for this, and something I'd find hilarious is if the F1 is a winnable car in a future menu book.

 

[JoaoSilva]

"Stop whining jeez, you guys complain way too much, kids these days don't want to work for anything, I'm still going to enjoy this game regardless, thank you Kaz!" etc etc.

"Bro just play the game, the money will come naturally".

I've put 92 hours into GT7 and only ever got 15M Cr in total, I swear this is some sick joke at this point.

Oh wait...

 

[Team THRT Drift]

Literally 18x more expensive than Sport,

And 9x more expensive than the IRL car, but sure, this game reflects real price markups 🙄🙄


Incorrect quip.

 

[mwoodski]

And 9x more expensive than the IRL car, but sure, this game reflects real price markups 🙄🙄

Incorrect. It's cheaper than one IRL.

The McLaren F1 Is The Most Expensive Car Sold at Auction

The most expensive McLaren F1 was sold for US$20.5 million, making it the priciest car sold in 2021 and the priciest F1 of all time.

www.luxuo.com

 

[Team THRT Drift]

Incorrect. It's cheaper than one IRL.

The McLaren F1 Is The Most Expensive Car Sold at Auction

The most expensive McLaren F1 was sold for US$20.5 million, making it the priciest car sold in 2021 and the priciest F1 of all time.

www.luxuo.com

Yea I was about to edit my post. I forgot the damn thing retailed for $800-1mil when it debuted lol

 

[Jewel Runner]

"Just to prepare you for the shock, Bonhams sold chassis SA9AB5AC5S1048044 at auction in 2017 for US$ 15,620,000, which is astonishing as the MSRP back in the Nineties was about $815,000, and it gets even better, in 2019 RM Sotheby’s sold chassis SA9AB5AC1R1048018, which was a little special for being one of only two cars that were converted into LM-Specs by the factory … the hammer came down at $19,805,000 including fees.

Renowned Hagerty lists the value of a ‘normal’ McLaren F1 around the $22,000,000 mark today, with special ones valued even higher … I would be really interested to learn just how much hard-earned money would need to be exchanged to park this red one on your driveway."

FOR SALE: McLaren F1 for sale

I’m sure you’ve read our article on the Gordon Murray Automotive T.50s Niki Lauda supercar posted recently, with that trademark center seating position, and I’m also confident you know where we’ve all seen that before, right? In the original McLaren F1 road car from the Nineties … with only 64...

www.supercars.net

😔 Sad to see the game take this route of copying real world prices.

 

[JoaoSilva]

Well it only costs 190€ in microtransactions, bit of a bargain eh.

 

[Team THRT Drift]

just how much hard-earned money would need to be exchanged to park this red one on your driveway."

Aaaand there it is. The ultimate fate of most McLaren F1s. Hard parked somewhere

 

[Nebuc72]

😔 Sad to see the game take this route of copying real world prices.

To be honest I don't care about that at all. I think it's fine an F1 can cost 18.5mil, skylines push 500k, etc.


It would be nice if the credits we earnt in game somewhat scaled with that though. That's where the issue lies.